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Neanderthal Males Had Popeye-Like Arms
Discovery News ^
| Tuesday, July 6, 2010
| Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 07/07/2010 7:19:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Remains of an early Neanderthal with a super strong arm suggest that Neanderthal fellows were heavily pumped up on male hormones, possessing a hormonal status unlike anything that exists in humans today... Neanderthal males probably evolved their ultra macho ways due to lifestyle, genes, climate and diet factors... Project leader Maria Mednikova told Discovery News that Neanderthal males hunted in the "extreme," helping to beef up one arm. "The common method for killing animals was direct contact with the victim," said Mednikova, a professor in the Institute of Archaeology at the Russian Academy of Sciences. Instead of shooting prey, such as mammoths, with a bow and arrow from a distance, Neanderthal males would engage in face-to-face contact, jabbing long, thick spears directly into the animal's flesh. Neanderthal females weren't delicate creatures either... Neanderthal males had Popeye-type right arms, while Neanderthal females had arms that were more evenly matched and not nearly as muscular. Mednikova and her team analyzed a fossil humerus (long bone that extends from the shoulder to the elbow) for what they believe was an Neanderthal male that might have lived around 100,000 years ago in what is now Khvalynsk, Russia... Mednikova and her colleagues explained that edible plants in colder regions were few and far between, and the vegetation period was short.
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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neandertal; neanderthal
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To: alexander_busek
:’) Yeah, what a weird choice of words by her. Maybe it’s an ESL problem though.
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:27:37 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: One_Upmanship
".. Neanderthal males had Popeye-type right arms"
Were Neanderthal females that unattractive or receptive?
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:33:02 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: OldPossum
In the Redmond area? They were all IT specialists.
To: aruanan
Depends on your definition of
spear, I guess.
To: SunkenCiv
That’s because they weere a type of glorified ape...just as the apes of today have very stronger arms. There still is no evolutionary transitional fossils of apes into humans and there will never be. Yet the brainwashing continues. Thank God for commonsense and the internet!
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:41:23 AM PDT
by
fabian
(" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
To: fabian
Neandertal wasn’t a glorified ape, yet the brainwashing continues.
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:47:46 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
"We're strong to the finish 'cause we eats our spinach..."
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:48:41 AM PDT
by
Jonah Hex
("Never underestimate the hungover side of the Force.")
To: a fool in paradise
That isn’t a real picture, is it? (shocked and dismayed)
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:53:34 AM PDT
by
wbarmy
(I decided to be a sheepdog when I saw what happens to sheep.)
To: fabian
Thats because they weere a type of glorified ape
Using your scientific terms, is a human a super duper glorified ape?
There still is no evolutionary transitional fossils of apes into humans and there will never be.
This is exciting news! Are rather revolutionary! Of course, hand-waving away hundreds of fossil remains is easy to do, so I'll wait for your research on the matter.
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:53:34 AM PDT
by
whattajoke
(Let's keep Conservatism real.)
To: whattajoke
There simply is no transitional fossil of apes into humans...simple fact. If there were clearly so there would be zero debate! Please be intellectually honest here.
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:56:16 AM PDT
by
fabian
(" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; colorcountry; JoeProBono; org.whodat; a fool in paradise; bert; whattajoke; ...
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:56:54 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: fabian
There simply is no transitional fossil of apes into humans...simple fact. If there were clearly so there would be zero debate!
Discounting the fact that there is "zero debate" in the anthropology, biology, chemistry fields - other than the specifics of the lineage - I am curious as to what type of fossil (or any) evidence you require to change your mind. Seriously.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:08:21 AM PDT
by
whattajoke
(Let's keep Conservatism real.)
To: whattajoke
anyone can do a search about the lack of real transitional fossils and see the truth. If you die hard intellectuals can not accept the facts; well, that does not change them! If there were real transitionals, the MANY scientist who once believed evolution and now denounce it as the fraud that it is would not exist. Just look it up..anyone who doubt this FACT.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:27:24 AM PDT
by
fabian
(" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
To: whattajoke
So I just posted evidence that there is plenty of debate amongst very real scientists...you are not being honest here and I am tired of you evolutionist pushing liars...because that is exactly what you are. The sooner you realize it the sooner you can recover and become normal again! You may not realize you are a liar, but you are. Sorry, that is a fact. If you would like help recovering..go to fhu.com please...
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:31:40 AM PDT
by
fabian
(" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
To: Reeses
Light skin is mostly a cosmetic trait selected for by some mothers favoring it in their children. It doesnt seem likely that Neanderthals were that deep into cosmetic selections. Dark skinned Neanderthals must be politically incorrect to depict. In northern climates, you need light skin in order to pass enough sunlight to produce enough vitamin D. It's possible that the genes for light skin came from Neanderthals breeding with humans rather than evolving in the rather short period of a few tens of thousands of years.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:32:44 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
To: fabian
anyone can do a search about the lack of real transitional fossils and see the truth.
Yes, they can. IF, that is, they are comfortable using apologetics as reputable scientific resources. If you choose to google the term "transitional fossils" without the preceding "lack of real," you'll get tens of thousands of hits with actual scientific research. It's up to you which route you wish to take.
Again I ask, what type of evidence do you require to change your mind? It's a simple thought experiment. It's not asking you to change your mind, but rather to simply think a little bit. It's not that hard.
If there were real transitionals, the MANY scientist who once believed evolution and now denounce it as the fraud that it is would not exist.
Oh I'm sure there are a few apologists who have used teh ICR, DI, and AiG to make a buck by "denouncing" evolution. Of course, your definition of "many" in the face of the many, many, many more scientists who accept the facts of evolution shouldn't get in your way of a good story.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:40:27 AM PDT
by
whattajoke
(Let's keep Conservatism real.)
To: fabian
So I just posted evidence that there is plenty of debate amongst very real scientists...
What evidence? Creationist evidence now constitutes telling a person to search for a loaded term like "lack of real?" Is that how it works?
Note: there is no debate among "very real scientists" insofar as whether or not humans have evolved from ancestral ape-like creatures and that there have been many lineages to fail and others that have evolved, ultimately becoming what we are today. There IS debate on the mechanisms of the changes, the time-lines, and things like that - which , of course, clever creationists often use to further trick their followers into thinking the evil plot is overthrown somehow.
I am tired of you evolutionist pushing liars...because that is exactly what you are.
Huh? Where did that come from? Is this how your church teaches you to argue those with whom you disagree? I never "pushed" anything. I've only simply asked you what type of evidence would interest you in the subject of human evolution. Heck, your answer can be "Only God himself appearing in my bedroom and laying it all out in front of me." That would be a perfectly fine answer.
You may not realize you are a liar, but you are. Sorry, that is a fact. If you would like help recovering..go to fhu.com please...
I just did and here's what I learned: "Your emotional upsets have literally turned you upside-down. Even though you were technically correct in what you said or did, if you did it resentfully, your emotions backfired and confused you and as you began to doubt yourself, conflict, depression and fear grew. Emotion has destroyed your objectivity, and, failing to see clearly, you have made terrible errors of judgment. This, in turn, led to a fear of making decisions, so that perhaps you began to look too much to others for guidance, and you know how upsetting it can be if they happen to be wrong or take advantage of you."
Good stuff.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:49:06 AM PDT
by
whattajoke
(Let's keep Conservatism real.)
To: a fool in paradise
"I'm not one-hundred percent in love with this theory..."
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posted on
07/07/2010 10:33:21 AM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
(You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
To: PapaBear3625
In northern climates, you need light skin in order to pass enough sunlight to produce enough vitamin D. It's possible that the genes for light skin came from Neanderthals breeding with humans rather than evolving in the rather short period of a few tens of thousands of years. The vitamin D theory is popular but some scientists disagree with it. Not all northern populations have light skin and everyone was outdoors so much then that vitamin D deficiency should not have been a major problem. Natural selection requires many people to die before breeding age to choose a preference. A vitamin D deficiency was probably not enough to kill off so many in such short a time. Mothers play an under-appreciated role in cosmetic trait selection, by playing favorites. This is hard to understand in modern times because we have food security, but they didn't have that back then and mothers often had to choose among their many children. Some proof that blond hair, light skin, and less hairy bodies was cultivated by mothers is that children are whiter, blonder, and less hairy than adults. Most European babies have blond hair and blue eyes, then these traits are free to change once the mother has bonded to the child.
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posted on
07/07/2010 10:36:21 AM PDT
by
Reeses
(Sowcialist: a voter bought with food stamps)
To: PapaBear3625
I looked around and Behold that was true, I wonder why?
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posted on
07/07/2010 10:48:37 AM PDT
by
Little Bill
(Harry Browne is a poofter)
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