Posted on 01/12/2005 11:11:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv
This author personally subscribes to the catastrophic theory of history. Namely, that one or more times prior to our present recorded history, mankind achieved a high level of civilization--only to have nearly all traces of it obliterated by widespread destruction, either natural or manmade.
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Interesting. I heard a Nobel scientist once call this stuff OOPART (out of place and relative time).
Thanks for link to article. Had not seen the magazine either.
Oops. Sorry, you'll probably enjoy this.
Thanx. Very good. You were right.
Does this have any implications for the dating of, say, dinosaur fossils?
This doesn't, no, because they're not artifacts.
Okay, but if stone can form a lot more quickly than was thought, couldn't some of the strata be younger than was thought?
My view is that the homogeneous strata are thrown down all at once, catastrophically, and therefore could entertain the notion of a reduced antiquty.
An oldie.
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Actually, there was a book with the title "OOPArts".
I had it, loaned it out and that was the last I saw of it.
The book is now an OOPArt.
I am not kidding. Really is such a book.
Hundreds of carved stone spheres, roughly three inches in diameter, believed to date to around 2000 BC, have been found in Scotland...
X-RAYS
Professional skeptic Pierre Stromberg and the ubiquitous geologist Paul Heinrich answered this question in a May 2000 article about the case. In "Coso Artifact: Mystery from the Depths of Time" the authors noted that the rock the Coso Artifact "possesses no characteristics that would classify it as a geode." While geodes require long times to form, the artifact has no interior crystals or a chalcedonic silica crust; therefore, it is not a geode. More significantly, that also means it did not necessarily take long times to form.The authors contacted Chad Windham, president of Spark Plug Collectors of America and asked him to examine x-rays of the Coso Artifact: "Windham replied he was certain that it was a 1920's era Champion spark plug." The authors compared the 1920s spark plug to the Coso Artifact photographs and found it to be identical. The old-style make of the early plug accounted for the difference between it and 1960s-era spark plugs originally used for comparison. They concluded that "To suggest that it was a device belonging to an advanced ancient civilization of the past could be interpreted as true, but is an exaggeration of several thousand years."
Looks like the golf ball had a rough start...
The solids as drawn in Kepler's Mysterium Cosmographicum
Kepler played golf? LOL!
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/geometry/platonic/
Actually, Fred, it was a joke. IIRC, golf originated in Scotland, where the pictured objects were found.
I knew you were joking!
Catalog of Anomalies (Archeology Subjects)
http://www.science-frontiers.com/cat-arch.htm
http://www.ralph-abraham.org/courses/math181/math181.S96/lectures/lecture.4w/balls.html
Google 'carved stone balls Scotland' - there's lots more.
Oopart is the name I heard, too, as in out-of-place artifact. Personally I take the same view on them as Rene Noorbergen did; he suggested they're from an extinct human civilization, most likely the one destroyed in Noah's Flood.
... picked it up at a charity used book sale. Initial premise is that certain artifacts marked with Greek letters appeared to be 500 years too old for such writing.
But a goodie. I feel like I've been under a (new)rock ;^)
Seems I've heard of maybe one or two of these "anamolies" but brushed 'em off like, well, UFO's and such. You da man; what's your take???
Whoa, thanks... I'm never surprised by the ingenuity of humans. While there is obvious value to a continuity of learning (for one example, an improving/changing series of tools, going from obsidian blades to moving individual items to spell "IBM"), anyone (or culture) with quiet time and a food surplus seems to have generated both artistic and technological marvels. There's also this to consider -- the traditional view of civilization as a single movement of constant development uses an approx 7000 year line. There's plenty of room for 7000 year contiguous units to have come and gone, and plenty of time for the most obvious and durable traces to either vanish, or to be tagged as natural formations, or chronologically adjusted. :')
Because of the devotion to the conventional pseudochronology, discoveries which undermine it have to be ignored, or have abuse heaped on them, or result in an outlandish adjustment of some kind. Very rarely does it result in radical chronological adjustments (although that does happen, in the example of the reduction by centuries of the date for Hammurabi).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1406892/posts?page=6#6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1406892/posts?page=7#7
BTW, and just for the sake of argument, what would a superior civilization look like? Would we be warping around the cosmos searching of a better steak?
Not necessarily. :')
Or is it the same answer for both questions??? Or take my pick??? Or none of the above? Or punt maybe? ;^)
:')
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