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HUMANS, NEANDERTHALS DID NOT HAVE BABIES
Discovery News ^ | Aug 16, 2012 | Anon

Posted on 08/17/2012 9:37:26 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Recent research strikes a blow to the theory that humans and Neanderthals interbred.

THE GIST Studies over the last two years suggest that Neanderthals vanished more than 30,000 years ago. This would mean that early humans and Neanderthals could not have interbred. enlarge

Over the last two years, several studies have suggested that Homo sapiens got it on with Neanderthals, an hominid who lived in parts of Europe, Central Asia and the Middle East for up to 300,000 years but vanished more than 30,000 years ago.

The evidence for this comes from fossil DNA, which shows that on average Eurasians and Asians share between one and four per cent of their DNA with Neanderthals, but Africans almost none.

But a new study by scientists at Britain's University of Cambridge says the shared DNA came from a shared ancestor, not from "hybridization" or reproduction between the two hominid species.

Common ancestor It begins with a common ancestors of Neanderthals and H. sapiens who lived around half a million years ago in parts of Africa and Europe.

Around 300,000 to 350,000 years ago, the European population and the African population of this hominid became separated.

Living in genetic isolation, the European range evolved bit by bit into Neanderthals, while the African range eventually became H. sapiens, which expanded in waves out of Africa from around 60,000 to 70,000 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: allcaps; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; humanevolution; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; ntsa; ssdd; unreconstructed; victoriannonsense
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To: varmintman

“The cultural barrier was unbreachable. This is what a Neanderthal actually looked like: “

Looks like Moochelle when she’s mad.


41 posted on 08/17/2012 10:23:26 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Pharmboy

i reckon it would depend upon how the erectus was...


42 posted on 08/17/2012 10:23:58 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: trailhkr1
modern man(us) have been found that are 50-100,000 years old. No, not a missing link but people who developed agricultural skills

Hmmm. Ever wonder how they communicated? Don't you find it puzzling that there is no recorded history or writings found older than 5000 years ago?

There's a lot of things that don't fit with "modern man" that old. As far as I know, it hasn't been validated by true scientific investigation (like Darwinism). The age and nature of these "fossils" if they turn out to actually be true fossils are questionable.

43 posted on 08/17/2012 10:25:39 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Pharmboy

HUMANS, NEANDERTHALS DID NOT HAVE BABIES

Who'd want to???


44 posted on 08/17/2012 10:29:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Pharmboy

Yes, that claim is spurious, since they date Homo Sapiens remains to 100,000 years in the same areas that Neanderthals were living.


45 posted on 08/17/2012 10:29:15 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Bitsy
seems to indicate comes when a society becomes grossly perverted.

Then somewhere there’s got to be some giants running around!

If they're not here already, they will be soon, I believe, for God's final judgement on the earth before His glorious return.

46 posted on 08/17/2012 10:29:19 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: allmendream
Here's one that I had never seen before of a Neanderthal woman. Would have needed more than beer goggles.


47 posted on 08/17/2012 10:30:07 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Is that a club you’re carrying, or are you just happy to see me?


48 posted on 08/17/2012 10:31:45 AM PDT by Tar and Feathers (http://tarandfeathersusa.wordpress.com/)
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To: PapaNew
Hmmm. Ever wonder how they communicated? Don't you find it puzzling that there is no recorded history or writings found older than 5000 years ago?

They communicated orally and did pictures. There are intricate cave paintings which are 40,800 years old found in Spain. Just because man did not learn to write until fairly recently does not mean they were not man. We did not learn how to fly until the early part of the last century..does not mean we are not human because we were not flaying 5000 years ago. does it?

There was a house foundation found in England that is 11,500 years old.

49 posted on 08/17/2012 10:33:22 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Pharmboy
The team also calculate that humans split from chimpanzees - our closest primate relative - around seven to eight million years ago, earlier than the six-to-seven million years ago that is a common estimate.

So why are there chimps still swinging from vines, yet supposedly humans evolved (and evolved and evolved...)?

Humans share DNA with chimps (95%), but also share it with cats (90%) and fruit flies and even bananas (50%).

50 posted on 08/17/2012 10:34:13 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
So why are there chimps still swinging from vines, yet supposedly humans evolved (and evolved and evolved...)?

Can't remember the exact reason but thinking we had a common ancestor but we split somewhere early along the line.

Humans did not evolve from chimpanzes.

51 posted on 08/17/2012 10:43:40 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: BlatherNaut
Some species of sharks have been essentially unchanged for tens of millions of years. We did not split FROM a chimp line, but from a common ancestor of our line and chimps.

Chimpanzee fossils are extremely rare (perhaps because they were limited to more damp econiches than our ancestors were), and what their ancestors looked like 5 million or so years ago remains a mystery along with how much they changed (evolved).

52 posted on 08/17/2012 10:44:04 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: BlatherNaut
So why are there chimps still swinging from vines, yet supposedly humans evolved (and evolved and evolved...)?

Since there are Modern Americans, why are there still Europeans?

53 posted on 08/17/2012 10:44:55 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1306 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: trailhkr1

No valid scientifically tested artifact has been validated to show “modern man” existed before 6000 years. The evidence is not only anemic, it’s non-existent. Maybe something else like dinosaurs or monkey-type creatures. But not “modern man.”


54 posted on 08/17/2012 10:46:34 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Bratch
Something about that Kucinich & Bimbo pic reminds me of this one:

LOL!

55 posted on 08/17/2012 10:49:16 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: PapaNew
No valid scientifically tested artifact has been validated to show “modern man” existed before 6000 years. The evidence is not only anemic, it’s non-existent. Maybe something else like dinosaurs or monkey-type creatures. But not “modern man.”

Sure there is, the 11,500 year old house I told you about which was found in England and the tools found with 40,000 year old fossils...but it is a free world and you can continue to believe what you want.

56 posted on 08/17/2012 10:54:45 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: camle
ok..i suppose being erectus helped facilitate all that mating..

Yeah but the Homo part didn't help at all.
57 posted on 08/17/2012 11:04:12 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks! It is sort of complex - no wonder the journalist couldn’t make heads or tails of it! ;)

I think I went to Jr. High with the woman pictured - of course she didn’t carry a spear and had clothes on; but still!


58 posted on 08/17/2012 11:05:15 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: varmintman
Courtesy www.themandus.org

That site keeps coming up. The assertion is from a guy named Danny Vendramini, a theater and film director with no scientific credentials, but who felt he could write a book about his theories after "researching more than 800 references".

59 posted on 08/17/2012 11:10:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: Pharmboy
From “Darwin’s Ghost” by Steve Jones, page 323.

“Although Neanderthals, at first sight so similar to modern humans, were once placed on the last rung before mankind, fossil DNA hints that they may not even be on the same ladder. Their mitrochondrial genes are quite distinct from our own. They were not the ancestors of human genes but followed a separate path. For mitrochondria at least, Neanderthals and ourselves split half a million years ago.”

60 posted on 08/17/2012 11:11:27 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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