Posted on 02/19/2005 7:36:30 AM PST by Woodworker
Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works
A flamboyant anthropology professor, whose work had been cited as evidence Neanderthal man once lived in Northern Europe, has resigned after a German university panel ruled he fabricated data and plagiarized the works of his colleagues. Reiner Protsch von Zieten, a Frankfurt university panel ruled, lied about the age of human skulls, dating them tens of thousands of years old, even though they were much younger, reports Deutsche Welle. "The commission finds that Prof. Protsch has forged and manipulated scientific facts over the past 30 years," the university said of the widely recognized expert in carbon data in a prepared statement.
Protsch's work first came under suspicion last year during a routine investigation of German prehistoric remains by two other anthropologists. "We had decided to subject many of these finds to modern techniques to check their authenticity so we sent them to Oxford [University] for testing," one of the researchers told The Sunday Telegraph. "It was a routine examination and in no way an attempt to discredit Prof. von Zieten." In their report, they called Protsch's 30 years of work a "dating disaster."
Among their findings was an age of only 3,300 years for the female "Bischof-Speyer" skeleton, found with unusually good teeth in Northern Germany, that Protsch dated to 21,300 years. Another dating error was identified for a skull found near Paderborn, Germany, that Protsch dated at 27,400 years old. It was believed to be the oldest human remain found in the region until the Oxford investigations indicated it belonged to an elderly man who died in 1750. The Herne anthropological museum, which owned the Paderborn skull, did its own tests following the unsettling results. "We had the skull cut open and it still smelt," said the museum's director. "We are naturally very disappointed."
Protsch, known for his love of Cuban cigars and Porsches, did not comment on the commission's findings, but in January he told the Frankfurter Neue Presse, "This was a court of inquisition. They don't have a single piece of hard evidence against me." The fallout from Protsch's false dating of northern European bone finds is only beginning.
Chris Stringer, a Stone Age specialist and head of human origins at London's Natural History Museum, said: "What was considered a major piece of evidence showing that the Neanderthals once lived in northern Europe has fallen by the wayside. We are having to rewrite prehistory." "Anthropology now has to revise its picture of modern man between 40,000 and 10,000 B.C.," added Thomas Terberger, an archaeologist at the University of Greifswald. Frankfurt University's president, Rudolf Steinberg, apologized for the university's failure to curb Protsch's misconduct for decades. "A lot of people looked the other way," he said.
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How exactly can scientists be qualified to evaluate logical arguments if they are not lawyers or logicians?
Genesis predicted a creation event. As late as the 1920's the most brilliant scientists in the world, including Mr E=MC^2, held to a static universe, ie: no creation event. Genesis was correct. How can this be?
LOL, keep on Rippin.
An Revelations predicts an end which also didn't jib with a steady state universe.
Nothing in the story said that "it appeared to be a NEANDERTHAL Skull!!," so you are wrong that "This PROVES that evolution is wrong,..." Indeed even if this dishonest and incompetent professor had misclassified a modern human skull as Neanderthal it would not "PROOVE" anything.
I don't know that anybody accepts steady-state anymore.
13.) Lucy has been compared to modem pygmy chimpanzees. Paleontologist Adrienne Zihlman, Univ. of Cal at Santa Cruz:( Lucy's fossil remains match up remarkably well with the bones of a pygmy chimp,(although there are some differences)). Adrienne Zihlman, "Pygmy chimps and pundits", New Scientist Vol 104 #1430 Nov 15, 1984 P.39-40Creationists have been compared to charlatans and conmen
What Zihlmans work really entails
Zihlman, who joined the UCSC faculty in 1967, began her career studying locomotion and became an expert in primate anatomy as she analyzed the underpinnings of how animals get around. The changes that occurred when our ancestors began walking upright account for the biggest anatomical differences between ancient apes and early humans."Bipedalism and the structures that go with it are the defining features of early humans," says Zihlman. "It's what separated us from the apes. If you really understand functional anatomy and living apes, you can make some pretty good guesses about the early hominids."
It was Zihlman's groundbreaking work on chimp anatomy, combined with her study of fossils, that prompted her and three colleagues to propose in 1978 that pygmy chimps are the best living model of a common ancestor of African apes and humans. The hypothesis, based in part on the pygmy chimp's heavy lower limbs and ready bipedalism, drew a lot of criticism from her peers. But Zihlman takes satisfaction today in the fact that many of these critics have since come to respect this point of view.
Zihlman's comparisons of the tissue weights of the upper and lower limbs of gorillas, pygmy chimps, and humans. The large-bodied quadrupedal gorilla has almost equal amounts of weight in its arms and legs; the smaller pygmy chimp, which is more bipedally oriented than the other African apes, has considerably more weight in its lower limbs than its arms; and the bipedal human has a dramatically higher proportion of weight in its legs than the chimp or gorilla.
In 1982, Zihlman published an illustration of Lucy's left side juxtaposed with the right side of a pygmy chimp. That image clearly showed the parallels between the early human fossil remains and pygmy chimps. "It was so dramatic, you couldn't deny that our early ancestors were chimplike," says Zihlman.
You keep asking, so, I guess I have to keep proving it to you.
Shells from living snails were carbon dated as being 27,000 years old. Science vol. 224, 1984, pp.58-61
Living mollusk shells were dated up to 2300 years old. Science vol. 141, 1963, pp.634-637
A freshly killed seal was carbon dated as having died 1300 years ago! Antarctic Journal vol. 6, Sept-Oct. 1971, p211
“One part of the Vollosovitch mammoth carbon dated at 29,500 years and another part at 44,000.” Troy L. Pewe, “Quaternary Strigraphic Nomencature in Uniglaciated Central Alaska,” Geologic Survey Professional Paper 832 (U.S. Gov. Printing Office, 1975) p. 30
“Structure, metamorphism, sedimentary reworking, and other complications have to be considered. Radiometric dating would not have been feasible if the geologic column had not been erected first.” J.E. O’Rourke, “Pragmatism vs. Materialism in Stratigraphy,” American Jouranl of Science, vol. 276 (January, 1976), p. 54
The geologic Column came many years BEFORE radiometric dating was conceived. Dates were initially established based on NOTHING. Radiometric dating aside, the geologic column is based upon the notion that it took alot of time to form the layers. Oddly enough, layer formation has not been observed at all over the years, except when you put dirt into a jar with water and shake it up. Strange thing about that test though, is that it only takes a matter of minutes for layers to form. Science can explain this phonomena too. It has to do with the particles themselves, as they sort out by density etc (they even teach this to 4th graders).
Well, Albert Einstein accepted a creating God, but what did he know? I'm sure the no-name "scientists" on this forum could teach him a thing or two. You know we will not settle this until the Last Day, because this is a conflict between two religions just as surely as the conflict between Islam and Christianity.
So she had to pick up the tab and even though I said I'd pay her back, she said "never mind." It was a long, quiet trip back to her house. When I pulled into her driveway, her father was waiting on the front porch. One of the neighbors had evidently told him about the "accident." Even though no apparent damage was done, he insisted that we pass papers and admonished me, in front of his daughter, for not telling him about it earlier.
Now that was a dating disaster!
LOL You need more practice at obnoxious.
All it did was prove that the small ape that people call Lucy looks like a Pygmy Chimp.
There is NO EVIDENCE that Lucy is a transitional form in any reality, only in the minds of evolutionary thought.
It is not a FACT, only a guess, and a bad one at that, because since you posted it here for all to see, ets repeat it again:
That image clearly showed the parallels between the early human fossil remains and pygmy chimps
That man put the bones of an ape like creeature next to an ape like creature, and said not because of any fact, but because he believes in evolution that therefore, humans looked like pygmy chimps a long time ago!
Evolution is such a fun theory, you can think of any zany theory like microbes on meteors to aliens with a mission to populate the univers, but if someone says, "In the Beginning, God..."
bump
Hard to add anything to that.
I should have heard of them if you have. I haven't. This is bull.
Yes it is true we are out here...but it is more fun to watch you religious evolutionists wiggle on the hook. ...Keep going, its fun to read,...really.
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