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The game has not changed, we face the same enemy, same challenges. The Beast never dies!
May 10, 2006 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/11/2006 12:52:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 05/11/2006 1:43:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The game has not changed, we face the same enemy, same challenges. The Beast never dies!

President Reagan faced down the Soviets and ended the cold war, but the Beast is still with us. It simply changes form. Whether it appears in the form of Bolshevism, Nazism, fascism, communism, Islamofascism, etc, it is the same enemy: Totalitarianism. The all powerful state.

Today we are fighting Islamic terrorism. It's just another example of the Beast rearing its ugly head in its never-ending quest to destroy freedom. The Beast cannot co-exist with free people nor we with it.

We also see the Beast trying to make inroads into America through radical feminism, homosexualism, abortionism, radical environmentalism, creeping socialism, illegal immigration, etc.

The goal is to demoralize and erode away our will and ability to fight by destroying the traditional family unit, destroying our moral society, denying us our freedom of religion, freedom of speech, right to peaceable assembly, right to keep and bear arms, our right to life and right to self governance. The Beast must rule and must rule with an iron fist. Tyranny, totalitarianism is the game.

While we are at war with an obvious foreign enemy that attacks with fire and bombs, we have another not so obvious enemy here at home that aids and abets the known foreign enemy.

We must not allow this domestic enemy to destroy us from within. The enemy I'm speaking of erodes away our constitution, our traditions, our society. It infiltrates and controls our government departments and agencies at every level. Infiltrates our public institutions, schools, churches, news media, entertainment industry, corporate entities, especially our political parties.

I'm speaking of the old enemy of Marxism/communism, more well known here at home as socialism/liberalism. It uses government enforced tools of radical feminism, homosexualism, radical environmentalism, abortionism, racism, atheism, confiscatory taxation, social security, medicare, welfare, redistributionism, compulsory government education, compulsory unionism, overburdening regulation, and many other forms of government overstepping, expansion, intrusion and abuse.

And I'm directly speaking of the primary American home of socialism/liberalism and the party that champions all of the above isms and includes them in their party platform, and in addition to all of the above also directly aids and abets the foreign enemy: the Democrat Party.

Not to name names, but I'm speaking of Kennedy, Schumer, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi, Waxman, Kerry, Gore, Dean, McKinney, Boxer, Feinstein, Feingold, and the list goes on and on and on. And we'll throw in the McCains and Specters, et al, from our side of the aisle for good measure.

We readily recognize all of the above as enemies of our constitution and enemies of self-governance and freedom and we band together to fight them and their partners in crime, otherwise known as the mainstream media, especially when they willingly and knowingly provide aid and comfort to the foreign enemy.

We recognize them when they throw up the big issues of abortionism, feminism, homsosexualism, environmentalism, redistributionism, and get up close and personal with their in your face perversions.

We recognize them as the enemy when they take away our rights, take away our guns, take our tax dollars, take our families, our children, deprive us of our freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc.

We recognize them as the enemy when they use the ACLU and other radical anti-freedom legal organizations against us.

We recognize them as the enemy when they use their organized labor unions against us.

We recognize them when they use International ANSWER and other socialist/communist fronts against us.

We recognize the enemy when they use liberal activist judges against us to get around the constitution and or to overrule the will of the people as expressed at the ballot box.

Now what I want to know is, why do we fall to pieces and eat our own when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration? Hmmmmm?

It's the same liberal/socialist/Marxist/communist groups and people that we've been fighting all along. It's the same enemy using the same tools!

The game has not changed! It's the same old enemy!

The radical Marxist/socialists are behind the illegals.

The same radical feminist/homosexualist/abortionist/environmentalist antiwar pinko communist union thug that joins any other leftist protest is right back there helping the illegal immigrant gain entry into America.

And they're using the same divide and conquer techniques. They infiltrate our political parties and organizations. They plant disinformation bombs and sow the seeds of political discontent. They are masters in the use of propaganda and rabble rousing.

Recognize the enemy for what he is and do not allow them to use divisive issues to destroy our conservative movement. We are winning. We must not be sidetracked by an issue that will be solved in due time as we elect more conservative members to our government and continue replacing liberal activist judges with constitutionalists.

The goal is the same as it's always been. We must hold the line and advance our cause. Never willingly give ground to the liberal/socialists! Never retreat! Never surrender!

The Beast must be destroyed!


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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, Lets work torward replacing the current batch of Republicans with ones that will do the Will of the people. Send a message that Republicans get on board, or they will be put on board.


221 posted on 05/11/2006 5:41:15 PM PDT by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Now what I want to know is, why do we fall to pieces and eat our own when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration? Hmmmmm?

You need to direct that question to the RNC, Republican Congressional leaders and the WH. The vast majority of conservatives know exactly what the right thing to do here is. In fact the polls indicate that the majority of Dem voters support doing the right thing regarding borders and employment of illegal aliens.

222 posted on 05/11/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We must not be sidetracked by an issue that will be solved in due time as we elect more conservative members to our government and continue replacing liberal activist judges with constitutionalists.

Due time? If an amnesty is enshrined as law it's all over. The current Congressional threat is to do that by Memorial Day. At the President's request.

I recall that the last two Presidential elections were nearly 50/50. Now I see our Congress looking for a way to appease these foreign nationals through legislation. No election necessary. The outcome of legalizing 11 million illegals, legally bringing in their family members and encouraging more to come will be a solid lock for the left forevermore in national elections. There is no time left.

223 posted on 05/11/2006 6:20:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Outstanding post!!

This place needed your words very much.

Thank you.


224 posted on 05/11/2006 6:36:50 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Jim Robinson
I would not advise willingly giving up the majority even for one term. We may lose it forever. We're going to have a hard enough time holding the line as it is. Best try to hold on to every seat we can possibly salvage... (well, except for McCain's. That one is unsalvagable). Wishful thinking, but maybe some of them can be picked off in the primaries.

IF we are truly that close then we have lost it. By that I mean if the voters in a party can not afford to discipline it's candidates and elected then the fight has done been lost. The elected have no reason whatsoever to do right any longer. I hope the GOP leadership is sweating the November election real good right now. If they aren't then they're stupid indeed. So far I see nothing to indicate a concern in Washington. It's business as usual.

The biggest risk we stand right now with Hillary Clinton is a creation by the wrongs of the GOP. Hillary Clinton is far more dangerous today than she was in 2000 but then so is George Bush and any other future POTUS under the programs the congress gave POTUS since 2001. We didn't need the Patriot ACT, Department of Homeland Security, CFR, liberal interpretations of the NSA, plus a few more powers that has been given. Did you know that A.G. Gonzales is now wanting all Internet users surfing records collected to a data base? He is using a ridiculous excuse to do it. Yes indeed Kiddie Porn is sick and IMO the pushers of it should be strung from a tree till death. They want them fine. Get some cops on the Internet and use some common sense and they'll likely find that or perps hitting on kids on it. Yes even in the Department of Homeland Security there are perps. I see this ultimately as a tool to be used against us to silence political dissent.

The current state of the undisciplined GOP worries me more than a DEM majority at this point. This is because it still gives the Liberals a functional majority as they have now. I'm not talking about in party number I'm talking about agenda. The Liberals are setting it at this point. I'm pretty certain that IF both houses were lost the GOP would either return to a pre-1995 platform and actually fight or they would finally fall. The first would be highly preferred that they change and fight. If they do so things will still be OK. There's the next election cycle to work on. The second is not the end of the nation either. It's opportunity to take back our government via a Conservative Constitution based replacement. Had that not been done in our history there would be no GOP.

Quite frankly if the GOP leadership would act like leaders tomorrow morning doing what it takes to do Conservatives work even against POTUS I would be tickled to death. It would be great to just for a day not read about the GOP pushing some insane liberal agenda making cause for needed letters to congress {than never get read} and a 20 point blood pressure rise. There are no real easy answers at this point except to obey conscience.

225 posted on 05/11/2006 6:38:18 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: TigersEye
I guess I'm not doing a very good job of getting my point across. The point is, the Marxist Beast is still out there and you can bet he's loving every minute of this mutiny. I do not for a minute believe that the Democrats want the issue to go away or have the best interests of the country at heart. They're lapping it up as we tear our movement apart. I may have supported guest workers in the beginning, mainly because I know we need qualified farm workers here in the San Joaquin Valley (but not ten million of them), but now wish the president would dump the issue. It's a loser and I know a lot of Republican congresscritters would be mighty relieved to see it gone. That being said, whatever happens we cannot allow the Beast (the Marxist Democrats) to retake control of our country. We're too close to totally demolishing the liberal hold on power to hand it all back on a silver platter. Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, et al, must not be allowed to take the majority or it's back to wandering in the wilderness for us conservatives.
226 posted on 05/11/2006 6:40:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: cva66snipe

I don't know about you but my conscience does not allow me to help Hillary Clinton and her minions.


227 posted on 05/11/2006 6:42:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
There's no alternative. I'll take my chances with Bush and the Republicans.

If enough of us held the courage of our convictions, there would be an alternative.

It's this 'oh, well, I guess I'm stuck with liberal Republicans' attitude that keeps the Beast alive. Thankfully, approval ratings are hovering around 30%. Seems like almost half of Bush's voters have decided that they aren't getting what they voted for.

We want shool vouchers, tax reform, controlled borders, and an indignant response to the constant, condescending Democratic guilt trip would be nice- instead of trying to outspend them in the name of 'compassion'.

We're sick of it.

228 posted on 05/11/2006 6:56:11 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt

You're not going to move 50 million voters to a third party if that's what you're suggesting as an alternative. Sorry, but that's just not going to happen.


229 posted on 05/11/2006 7:01:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
No, I think you expressed yourself very well. And I agree, in principle, with pretty much everything you are saying. I just don't think we have the time you suggest we do due specifically to the issue of "amnesty." We can't legalize all these intruders and expect to hold a majority. It is my opinion and may it be wrong. I don't think it is though.

They're lapping it up as we tear our movement apart.

I do disagree with that. Firstly I don't think the conservative movement is tearing itself apart. Again I could be wrong but I don't think it's that fragile. Secondly, if the Republican Party/conservative movement is in any trouble it is not due to friction amongst us rank and file members. That is nothing more than a symptom of the gross incompetence and deceit coming from our elected representatives. (And I'm talking about so-called conservative Republicans not Dems. They're exactly as you've described them and worse.)

Politically it might be nice if this issue just went away but it isn't going to. It has been fifty years in the making and has long been a bur under the saddle of many Americans. This is not, as some have suggested, a media-generated phenomena, some apparitional faddish fringish concern. It is also not just some emotionally based empty concern. This is a sovereignty threatening, economy threatening, neighborhood/family threatening, school/hospital/social services threatening/emergency services threatening substantial problem.

I'm not trying to argue or debate my strategy vs. your strategy. We're (conservatives) in a tight spot right now. Conservatism is definitely on the rise but this is a crucial time of decision and action. We can't afford an amnesty. Maybe that's a bit hyperbolic but I just don't think the Republic will survive it.

230 posted on 05/11/2006 7:03:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not at all. I'm suggesting that this mutiny, if it plays out like the Harriet Miers fiasco, will result in real conservatism.

It all depends on how committed the socialists with in the GOP are. Will they choose to lose, or to do what's right? It's a high stakes game of chicken. We the voters always blink. Maybe not this time. Not me.


231 posted on 05/11/2006 7:04:58 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't know about you but my conscience does not allow me to help Hillary Clinton and her minions.

Nor does mine. I don't think anyone wants her in here. I wish congress would at the very least act to rescind some of the programs it has enacted. Dangerous precedents have been set that may not be repairable or controllable under the current leadership. Just a disagreement as to the remedy. GOD help us if she gets them. That is why they were wrong to start with. The GOP will have a very difficult time trying to restrict her no matter what the outcome. I prefer her being out of politics completely. Second best is her staying in the state that elected her and that is bad enough as it is a national office.

BTW Marxist are everywhere and there is a large variety. The most dangerous & deadliest among Marxist Doctrines is Cultural Marxism. The pushers of it came here between WW1 & WW2 for the most part. That doctrine took over the education system roughly in the 1950's in the universities producing a major disaster crop of leaders now in Washington and many state capitols.

232 posted on 05/11/2006 7:05:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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233 posted on 05/11/2006 7:08:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: cva66snipe

The Beast is fed by career politicians.

We need TERM LIMITS!


234 posted on 05/11/2006 7:12:02 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We're too close to totally demolishing the liberal hold on power to hand it all back on a silver platter. Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, et al, must not be allowed to take the majority or it's back to wandering in the wilderness for us conservatives.

We can not demolish liberals simply by adopting their agenda.

I am throughly disgusted with Bush's pandering to the ILLEGAL immigration advocates.

My brother in-law told me for years that Bush would break to the left after the election. I spent a fair amount of energy arguing that Bush would break right.

I'm eating crow.

235 posted on 05/11/2006 7:12:12 PM PDT by Barnacle (Harriet ’08 - Trust me... She’s fab!)
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To: Jim Robinson
You're not going to move 50 million voters to a third party if that's what you're suggesting as an alternative.

Not even a 'Minuteman Party'?

236 posted on 05/11/2006 7:15:44 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Now what I want to know is, why do we fall to pieces and eat our own when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration? Hmmmmm? ....Recognize the enemy for what he is and do not allow them to use divisive issues to destroy our conservative movement. We are winning. We must not be sidetracked by an issue that will be solved in due time as we elect more conservative members to our government and continue replacing liberal activist judges with constitutionalists.

Amen!
Jim, YOU DA MAN!


237 posted on 05/11/2006 7:17:50 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Jim Robinson
We're too close to totally demolishing the liberal hold on power

I don't think the GOP wants to truly demolish them. Their existence as a threat keeps us unified- that's the theory anyway.

They know that if the Dems are trule marginalized, there will immediately be a split among the GOP. Conservatives vs. moderates/libs. It's in the GOPs best interest to keep the Dems around, and relatively powerful.

I'm glad to see approval ratings so low. Maybe the threat of losing this fall will force their hand and drive them to the right.

238 posted on 05/11/2006 7:19:13 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent Post--marked for reference

I agree with what you're saying. But I'd also add our nation's colleges and universities as they are among the biggest offenders--they're veritable breeding grounds for the Beast.


239 posted on 05/11/2006 7:24:16 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: airborne
The Beast is fed by career politicians. We need TERM LIMITS!

Well at one point in recent history we came close to having a dictator under FDR. I can go along with it under the idea that a break of one term be given after the second elected term in the senate and no more than four terms in the house with a break of two terms. If after the break in office they can be reelected fine but still maintain the same cycle. I think that would be a healthy solution to bad career politicians. It's very obvious the founders had no intentions of being career politicians they did their service and moved on.

On the DEM side Kennedy should have retired 24 years ago. He's been in office 44 years as a senator. That's ridiculous. As ridiculous as Strom Thurmond's terms were. No person can stay in DC that long and still have a sense of the realities back home. It can't be done.

240 posted on 05/11/2006 7:24:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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