Bishops rekindle anti-Catholic bias

cap times ^ | 1/23/04 | Dave Zweifel

[johnb2004]

Don't Burke and those fellow bishops who "congratulate" him understand how they're playing into that anti-Catholic prejudice that was so prevalent back then and could easily resurface today?

Do they really want voters to pick candidates based on their religion?

[madprof98]

I'm trying to figure out what difference it makes to elect "Catholic" politicians who then do all in their power to trash Christian morality. It doesn't seem to me that America is one bit better off for having elected JFK. What exactly are we supposed to have gotten out of his years of public service? And what are we getting from his brother or from Nancy Pelosi and her ilk? The country is much the worse for them.

[Salvation]

Some additional information:

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William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
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THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
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[SuziQ]

Do they really want voters to pick candidates based on their religion?

YES! I want all faithful Christians and Jews to pick their candidates based on their religion. If we ALL based our choices on the Ten Commandments, and how well those candidates followed them in their decision making, I believe this country would be a LOT better off than it is now!

[litany_of_lies]

My e-mail to Mr. Z:

It was one thing for JFK to say what he said in 1960 when the country was different, dare I say "mostly moral."

It's another thing for The Church to stand by idly, as it has for far too long, and watch politicians who claim to be Catholics vote consistently for, and speak out publicly in support of, laws and rulings that fail to put the brakes on the Holocaust of the unborn. Some (perhaps Mr. Obey) actively court the support of pro-abortion organizations like Planned Parenthood and NOW.

Mr. Obey, if his record is indeed pro-abortion, cannot defensibly call himself a Catholic and receive the sacraments with clean hands. Indeed, each time he does so he compounds his sinfulness. He clearly does not subscribe to one of the Church's most sacred beliefs. The most sacred beliefs of an organized religion are not arguable--they are what they are. I should add that there is no real controversy over when life begins, only debate as to whether it's okay to snuff it out before it leaves the womb.

Again if his record is pro-abort, Mr. Obey needs to be consistent and leave the Church--or better yet, confess his sins, repent, and come back to its core beliefs.

There is NO room for condoning abortion in the Church, and no room for members who are okay with it. None.

If you're worried about a "backlash," you haven't been paying attention. Anti-Catholic discrimination and ridicule are rampant. The Church, not being "of this world," can live with it, and will ultimately triumph in spite of it.

[Romulus]

Catholic bishops who think it's OK to hold the sacraments of their church over the heads of Catholic politicians

The bishops are not telling politicians what to do. They are running their own local churches -- period. Do you have a problem with this?

This is not a rhetorical question. I require an answer. Should bishops have the right to run their local churches, or not?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Coleus]

Has a 60% Pro-homosexual voting record with the Gay, Human Rights Campaign, Pages 2,3,9

[franky]

Yes! He did one thing and that was start the the international outreach for youth (I forgot its name)

He also started this country onto its socialism path with Medicare which Johnson's great society completed. We will be paying for this forever.

He and his families pre-election efforts proved right away his thoughts about Catholicism. Any Catholic worth his salt would not have run a campaign the way the Kennedy's did

[Arthur McGowan]

It's very thoughtful of anti-Catholic bigots like you to warn us Catholics well in advance, before you start your persecution. Oh--I forgot--you've been killing babies in America for 31 years. So the mass murder has already begun. Anyway, thanks for giving us adult Catholics some warning before you start murdering us.

[Arthur McGowan]

Kennedy's answer to the Baptist ministers was a disgrace. They should have been APPALLED rather than pleased. But their anti-Catholic bigotry trumped their common sense. They should have been horrified to hear a candidate that his religion would not affect his public acts. Only candidates who DO allow their religious beliefs to affect their public acts have any reason to avoid monstrous crimes.

Candidates who DON'T allow their religion to affect their public acts do things like murdering 45 million babies.

[Snuffington]

Don't Burke and those fellow bishops who "congratulate" him understand how they're playing into that anti-Catholic prejudice that was so prevalent back then and could easily resurface today?

Of course they understand. What they're not doing is cowering in fear of it. Sometimes doing the right thing isn't easy or comfortable. Buy a ticket to Mel Gibson's upcoming flick "The Passion" if you need a reminder about that sort of thing.

(Incidentally, johnb2004, you posted this in a confusing manner. You excerpted the article in the article space, and pasted the entire thing into the space for your comments about it. I suspect a number of posters believe you to be the author of what you put in the comments section. You might want to avoid that next time.)

[johnb2004]

Sorry, I messed up the post.

[GirlShortstop]

It's very thoughtful of anti-Catholic bigots like you to warn us Catholics well in advance, before you start your persecution.

Good afternoon Arthur.   Your comment above should probably include the name of this article's author:  Dave Zweifel.   The bigot you mention is not johnb2004, even though it could be inferred as such because of a posting mistake -see above just one or two postings.   FReegards!