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Vatican cardinal: Obama is 'Aggressive, Disruptive and Apocalyptic'
Pontifications ^ | November 15, 2008 | David Gibson

Posted on 11/15/2008 4:22:22 PM PST by NYer

Father Newman (see below) may have at least one big gun on his side, rhetorically if not canonically or theologically. According to the student newspaper of Catholic University of America, Cardinal Francis Stafford, a longtime American in the Roman Curia, on Thursday night painted an apocalytpic picture of the America he sees in the wake of Obama's victory:

His Eminence James Francis Cardinal Stafford criticized President-elect Barack Obama as "aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic," and said he campaigned on an "extremist anti-life platform," Thursday night in Keane Auditorium during his lecture "Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II: Being True in Body and Soul."


"Because man is a sacred element of secular life," Stafford remarked, "man should not be held to a supreme power of state, and a person's life cannot ultimately be controlled by government."

"For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden," Stafford said, comparing America's future with Obama as president to Jesus' agony in the garden. "On November 4, 2008, America suffered a cultural earthquake."

Cardinal Stafford said Catholics must deal with the "hot, angry tears of betrayal" by beginning a new sentiment where one is "with Jesus, sick because of love."

The lecture, hosted by the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family, pertained to Humanae Vitae, a papal encyclical written by Pope Paul VI in 1968 and celebrating its 40 anniversary this year.

Stafford also spoke about the decline of a respect for human life and the need for Catholics to return to the original values of marriage and human dignity.

"If 1968 was the year of America's 'suicide attempt,' 2008 is the year of America's exhaustion," said Stafford, an American Cardinal and Major Penitentiary of the Apostolic Penitentiary for the Tribunal of the Holy See. "In the intervening 40 years since Humanae Vitae, the United States has been thrown upon ruins."

This destruction and America's decline is largely in part due to the Supreme Court's decisions in the life-issue cases of 1973, specifically Roe v. Wade. Stafford asserted these cases undermined respect for human life in the United States.

"Its scrupulous meanness has had catastrophic effects upon the unity and integrity of the American republic," said Stafford.

Wow. I bet that wasn't the tenor of Obama's chat with the Pope the other day. Then again, lieutenants are there to do the dirty work so the white cassock stays clean.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: aggressive; apocalyptic; catholic; democrat; democrats; disruptive; obama; obamatransitionfile
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1 posted on 11/15/2008 4:22:23 PM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/15/2008 4:23:03 PM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

Wow! Stafford said this? I’m impressed. He was Bishop of Denver, IIRC, and not a great one. But this is certainly strong stuff.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 4:24:44 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Well, I’m glad he said it but it seems to be a day late and a dollar short.


4 posted on 11/15/2008 4:28:21 PM PST by blueheron2 (Goodbye CBS,ABC,CNNand GE/NBC news)
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To: NYer

....aggressive, disruptive and apocalyptic and... affected, artificial, assumed, bogus, concocted, counterfeit, fabricated, fictitious, forged, fraudulent, invented, make-believe, mock, phony, pretended, pseudo, reproduction, sham, simulated, spurious, Bolshevist, collectivist, communist, Fabianist, Leninist, Maoist, Marxist....


5 posted on 11/15/2008 4:32:26 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: NYer

Too late. The unborn will continue to suffer. So will we all.

Franklin Delano Obama can do no wrong. Barf


6 posted on 11/15/2008 4:35:17 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: NYer
Cardinal Stafford said Catholics must deal with the "hot, angry tears of betrayal" by beginning a new sentiment where one is "with Jesus, sick because of love."

I'm afraid it's not just the Catholics who will be dealing with the "hot, angry tears of betrayal." A lot of Americans are going to wake up to the reality that their "Messiah" lied to them, but by then it's going to be too darn late for all of us. Socialism will already have taken over.

7 posted on 11/15/2008 4:36:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree (FAITH IS DARING THE SOUL TO GO BEYOND WHAT THE EYES CAN SEE.)
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To: Dallas59

why is your online thesaurus coughing up nouns for your adjectives?


8 posted on 11/15/2008 4:45:22 PM PST by Douggles
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To: Douggles
I don't know.
Thesaurus.com
9 posted on 11/15/2008 4:48:53 PM PST by Dallas59 (Redistribute Obamas Wealth)
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To: NYer

At least someone is saying it.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 4:57:42 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer

‘Apocalyptic’ as in the AC?


11 posted on 11/15/2008 4:59:43 PM PST by citizencon
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To: Reagan Man

“Franklin Delano Obama” - Very good!


12 posted on 11/15/2008 5:01:52 PM PST by Cyberrat (Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
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To: Dallas59

Woodle woodle! Quality Adjectives!


13 posted on 11/15/2008 5:05:35 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I thank Thee, dear Jesus, that Thy will and not mine has been done." ~St. Frances Cabrini)
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To: NYer

Tagline!


14 posted on 11/15/2008 5:07:57 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: NYer

Was this statement issued after the meeting with 0bama?


15 posted on 11/15/2008 5:23:33 PM PST by JavaJumpy
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To: NYer

I think this was Americas chance to”Choose Life” and America said give us Death. Like the Cardinal alluded, Catholics voted for Death.

Before Pope Benedict came to America to celebrate Mass in New York and Washington, it was revealed that as a young boy in Germany he had had a cousin with Down Syndrome. One day a Nazi doctor came and claimed his cousin for the Third Reich. Taken to be “cared for” at the “hospital” young Joseph Ratzinger never saw his cousin again: one of the host of “useless eaters” marked for extermination by that brutal regime.

My wife and I operate St. Joseph’s House, a daycare and respite care home for handicapped children. As it happened one of the children we care for, a wheelchair bound young lady, was chosen along with three other handicapped folks to carry the gifts up to the altar before the consecration at the Mass at Nationals Stadium in Washington D.C. on April 17, 2008. One of these was James, a 30ish man who works in the Officer’s Club at Andrews AFB. James has Down Syndrome. He was chosen to carry the large host which would become the Body of Christ lifted up before the assembled. As James with great ceremony advanced toward the Pope, his native enthusi­asm overcame his reserve and he started to run. Simultaneously the Holy Father leapt from his chair and walked towards James with his arms out­stretched. We have a picture of this moment which I cannot look at without tearing up. What did he see as he gazed so lovingly at James? I believe he saw his cousin. I believe he saw the face of Jesus. And I believe that his great prayer as he elevated that host on that impossibly beautiful day was “As long as you did to these the least of my brethren, you did it to Me.”

The next day April 18th, a boy was born to of all people, the Gover­nor of Alaska. They named him Trig.


16 posted on 11/15/2008 5:44:41 PM PST by lmc12
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To: lmc12

What a marvelous reply! I know it had to come from the Holy Spirit!

God is alive! God is alive!

Obama, bow down and kneel to your God!

I love you, Brother, for posting this!

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17 posted on 11/15/2008 6:10:52 PM PST by Candybar
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To: NYer

obumpa


18 posted on 11/15/2008 7:18:02 PM PST by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Dallas59
Pray for LIFE!

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19 posted on 11/15/2008 7:39:15 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: lmc12

**I think this was Americas chance to”Choose Life” and America said give us Death.**

I agree. And I also agree with the priest that said if you voted for Obama you must go to Confession.


20 posted on 11/15/2008 7:40:53 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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