Oh, LDS, Inc. has it's PR department to do THAT job!
Posted on 07/31/2012 6:31:13 PM PDT by Colofornian
Per the Feb. 7, 2012 Pakistan Independent (see first link below), "The current LDS First Presidency Statement of 1978 says specifically mentions Prophet Muhammad as one of ‘the great religious leaders of the world’ who received ‘a portion of God’s light….’”
It would appear, therefore, that the Muslim world might be "happy" with either an Obama re-election or Mitt Romney. And, hey, why not? Just look at all the "ecumenical" outreach attempts with Islam made by Mormon leaders in the "ecumenical" link section listed below.
For these past seven years, over a dozen Freepers have been faithful in posting the 25 articles linked below...several of these written by Mormon writers/sources -- and one thread below posted by a Mormon.
* Mormonism: What the Latter Day Saints think of Islam [Indicator of how Mitt perceives Islam?] [Pakistan Independent thread]
* Mitt Romney: "Islam is not an inherently violent faith" [My Note: With this kind of lack of Romney foreign policy discernment, expect MORE Romney foreign policy boo-boos like his comments in the UK @ Olympics]
* Islamic And Mormonism Similarities: Similarities Between Joseph Smith and Muhammad (Written by Brother Andrew, a pioneer missionary leader to typically "closed" countries re: the gospel)
* Islamic And Mormonism Similarities (Same content posted a year later on FR)
* Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism (posted by Freeper poster Kaslin and written by one with an Egyptian heritage)
* Common Threads between Islam and Mormonism (same thread as above -- posted by another FREEPER)
* Mormons and Muslims? How do you all see each other? [Written @ BYU source]
* A Latter-day Saint Perspective on Muhammad Mormon-(OPEN) [Written by a BYU prof and posted in official Lds church publication]
* Thoughts on Islam,” in Mormons and Muslims: Spiritual Foundations and Modern Manifestations
* Muslims and Latter-day Saints Mormon (OPEN) [article from a recognized Lds site]
* Bridges of faith between Mormons and Muslims
* (LDS)L.D.S. perspective on Islam (this is an earlier -- 2005 --FR thread citing a BYU prof who's been deemed a "leader" among Lds apologists)
* Mormons, Muslims break the fast in Southern California (Mormon "interfaith outreach)
* Muslims and Mormons share worship space in St Charles
* A Message of Friendship: Muslims and Latter-Day Saints [from a recognized Lds apologetics Web site]
* BYU Hawaii’s First Non-Mormon Student President Credits Mormons for Making Him a Better Muslim
* Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets
* Mormons, Muslims get along by creating books, not destroying them [LDS OPEN]
* Major Islamic art exhibit being installed at BYU [Utah Mormon University]
* 'Beauty and Belief' - Acclaimed Islamic art exhibit at BYU [Mormon]
* Latter-day Saint Perspective on Muhammad (LDS/Muslim Caucus) (This was posted by a Mormon and was written by a BYU prof)
* Revealed: Mormons Baptized 9/11 Hijacker, made several attempts to Baptize Mohammed
* MSNBC: MORMONS BAPTIZED 9/11 HIJACKER: Will Mainstream Media destroy Romney over his Religion?
* Twin Sept. 11 tragedies created tides of religious intolerance
* Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith tangles with a quirk of Arkansas history [Washington Post thread]
The exposure of mormonism comes from their own words and the personal experiences of those of us who have mormon families and or where mormon.
The information given is easily verified.
Interesting mormons tend not to defend these but dance around the issues, as the lds traing goes “only answer the questions that should have been asked and avoid all others”.
You apparently have learned your lessons well.
Err.. which translation? And translation from what?
There is only one canon of scripture among Christians and that is encapsulated in the books of the Bible. The words and meanings are as in the original Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic translated to the Vulgate and thenceforth. There have been minor or major slips when translated into more later languages like French or the modern language of modern English, and one can quibble over various points, but the overall theme of the Bible is the same as it ever was
And the key theme is that God is ONE, there are no multiple gods and Jesus is God.
What do you mean by 'the'?
Oh, LDS, Inc. has it's PR department to do THAT job!
Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.
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....... The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below. The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further. The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary. Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify. In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building. As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames. What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs. There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed. And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence. |
LOL! And here I thought I was the only one thinking the Mormon bigots got real quiet about halfway through the freepathon! I thought maybe it was some sort of clan meeting in Hawaii or something.
SOMEone fails to understand FREE speech!
Actually for some of us there is...
But I am sure you know way more than I, like how to make up totally off topic keywords and arguments not even remotely germane to the post at hand...
Our meetings are in Utah, but we manage to be productive and present information and facts on our own, not off hand comments and ignorant accusations...
Not a lot of time for surfing for the serious, but you feel free to enjoy....
BTW, as an aside, did you notice there is a Freepathon going on even as I type…
And this thread was posted...
Kinda the antithesis of “real quiet”...
Yeah, I know, Google it.
Cowabunka dude!...
Our meetings are in Utah, but we manage to be productive and present information and facts on our own, not off hand comments and ignorant accusations...
Not a lot of time for surfing for the serious, but you feel free to enjoy....
BTW, as an aside, did you notice there is a Freepathon going on even as I type…
And this thread was posted...
Kinda the antithesis of “real quiet”...
Yeah, I know, Google it.
Cowabunka dude!...
You'll make a poor MORMON; so we'll leave you alone...
1. If you could hie to Kolob In the twinkling of an eye,
And then continue onward With that same speed to fly,
Do you think that you could ever, Through all eternity,
Find out the generation Where Gods began to be?
2. Or see the grand beginning, Where space did not extend?
Or view the last creation, Where Gods and matter end?
Me thinks the Spirit whispers, “No man has found ‘pure space,’
Nor seen the outside curtains, Where nothing has a place.”
3. The works of God continue, And worlds and lives abound;
Improvement and progression Have one eternal round.
There is no end to matter; There is no end to space;
There is no end to spirit; There is no end to race.
4. There is no end to virtue; There is no end to might;
There is no end to wisdom; There is no end to light.
There is no end to union; There is no end to youth;
There is no end to priesthood; There is no end to truth.
5. There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
There is no end to glory; There is no end to love;
There is no end to being; There is no death above.
Where there ARE pots of gold at the end of the rainbows!!
#1...You credit me too much if you think I can wave a wand and instantly hundreds of others will give $100...
(But I'll try it based on your say-so: FREEPERs, I, Colofornian, wave my wand over your pursestrings..."Presto, magicio...each of you give $100 to FR...and please respond on this thread to indicate that your $100 gift is ready so that PA Engineer can start tabulating his matching promise check!")
And...#2...Since PA Engineer is agreeing here to match ANY new $100 gift to FR -- to be matched -- that will be mentioned on this thread...to tap into his matching-gift promise, please be sure to ping the link to this thread re: PA Engineer's promise-to-match as you recruit a dozen of your own FR buds...
Then...if, say, 100 of us can convince half of the dozen FRiends we contact to give a NEW $100 gift to FR as part of this matching-gift drive...
That would be 100 of us providing a NEW gift to FR -- plus up to 600 more who were specifically matching-fund recruited -- for a total of 700...
That's 700 who would be EACH giving a new $100 gift.
The total "max out" on that would = $70,000. And PA Engineer has promised he would match that $70,000 goal with another $70,000. As long as up to 700 of us FREEPERs came on this thread to acknowledge such a NEW gift...so that he would have an exact tally.
ALL: So. It's a new month. Can I count then on 100 of you to "go and find" 6 matching givers each throughout all of August?
Now, PA Engineer...you've already promised to be a matching giver...These posters I am appealing to are probably going to want your assurance that you're NOT going to back down on the figures above...right?
ALL NEW $100 gifts during the month of August that will be acknowledged on this thread WILL be matched by you...right??? And to be fair to you, we'll max this out at $70,000. Before the eyes of JR, you are hereby in agreement to this plan?
Hey you bigoted old lady. Aren’t pissing contests in the morning fun? Somewhere here there is indeed a pot. Might be something in there that is colored gold.
Mormon FReepers have been boasting for several years that they are "withholding" their contribution to FR until those of us posting factual mormon doctrine and practices are either censored or banned.
BTW, this slam against the Inmans is the main reason that I am publicly on the monthly donor list and in looking at the list I see several Flying Inmans who are dollar-a-day donors.
BUT, this kind of post by PA Engineer is so typical of the Alinsky method of attacking the messenger when the facts are not in your favor.
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