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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread) October 29, 2003
Various | October 29, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/28/2003 10:00:43 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Daily Thread 1 - October 29, 2003)

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Links to Previous Threads ( roughly from older to more current):

Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer: | August 28, 2003

TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts | Posted 09-21-03

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY": SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS IS GEORGE FELOS... | Posted 11-24-02

Florida Woman to Be Allowed to Die Despite Family's Wishes | Posted 8/05/03

Terri (Schiavo) Hospitalized The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation | Posted 8-15-03

JUSTICE IN AMERICA | Posted 8-20-03

Florida Supreme Court Denies Hearing in Euthanasia Case |Posted 8-23-03

Legal setbacks clear way for Schiavo starvation | Posted 8-25-03

Florida governor asks judge to delay removal of woman's feeding tube ) | 8-26-03

Florida Governor Asks Judge to Delay Removal of Woman's Feeding Tube | 8-26-03

Attorney: Jeb Bush letter only a 'good first step' | August 28, 2003 |

'Exit protocol' for brain-disabled woman? (Breaking - Schiavo) | Aug. 29, 2003 |

Disabled Woman Would Cry 'Help Me,' Caregivers Claim (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 9/03/03

Disabled woman would cry "help me" caregivers claim | 9/3/03

Another 9-11 date with death: Jane Chastain decries agonizing death planned for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-4-03

AnnaZ's Interview w/ Bob Schindler, Jr. - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's brother [Rough Transcript] | Posted 10-6-03

Operation Jell-O Freep for Terri Schiavo | Posted 9-7-03

Enforcing the "Right to Die":The Case of Terri Schiavo Life Issues ^ | Posted 9-7-03

Schiavo's Date with Death | Posted 9-8-03

Court guardian to decide man's fate | Posted 9-8-03

Terri Schiavo’s Life and Death | Posted 9-16-03

Conflict of Interest Charged in Florida Euthanasia Case | Posted 9-17-03

Too thin a line between life, death for Schiavo | Posted 9-17-03

Judge Sets Date To End Life Support | Posted 9-18-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Story on Bill O' Reilly NOW| Posted 9-18-03

Let Schiavo fade away, as so many others do | Posted 9-25-03

Hate Mail, Threats Go to Man With Judge's Name (Terri Shiavo case) | Posted 9-30-03

Florida AG intervenes in Schiavo lawsuit [Crist CHOOSES DEATH. What "Right to refuse" for Terri?] | 10-4-03

Fight over Florida woman's fate |10-5-03

Sign Freep For Terri | Posted 10-5-03

Jeb Bush steps in for Schindler-Schiavo | Posted 10-7-03

No Mercy in Florida| Posted 10-11-03

Sean Hannity Steps In: Terri Schindler Case (New Video) | Posted 10-13-03

Coast to Coast AM Live Thread (Terri Schindler Schiavo and "Slippery Slope") | Posted 10-14-03

Comatose woman will stop being fed (CNN lies, Terry not in a coma) | Posted 10-15-03

Comatose Woman's Feeding Tube Removed (Fox news repeats AP's lie) | Posted 10-15-03

Sign this petition NOW! Help save Terri and let your voices be heard! | Posted 10-16-03

G.G Liddy discussing Terri Schiavo now (Call him) | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tube Removed From Comatose Woman | Posted 10-16-03

Feeding Tubes For Andrea Yates, But Not Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-16-03

TERRI SCHIAVO TO DIE IN ATTORNEY'S "DEATH FACTORY"? SUNCOAST HOSPICE BOSS WAS GEORGE FELOS... | Posted 10-16-03

Prosecutor Delivers Emergency Letters To Governor Bush in Terri Schiavo Case [Thomas More Center] | Posted 10-16-03

Medical Experts Contend Schiavo Won't `Feel A Thing' | Posted 10-16-03

Local Doctor Plays Part in Schiavo Case | 10/16/03

Terri Schiavo Vigil Report | Posted 10-16-03

SUICIDE; RIGHT TO DIE; EUTHANASIA | Posted 10-16-03

Jeb Bush Wimping Out in Schiavo Case?| Posted 10-17-03

Judge denies last ditch effort by Schiavo's parents | Posted 10-17-03

Judge Again Refuses to Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-17-03

TERRI SCHIAVO - UPDATE JUDICIAL WATCYH | Posted 10-17-03

FREEP JEB BUSH for TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO | Posted 10-17-03

Abuse report filed for Terri Schiavo (Judicial Watch and Klayman Jump In) | Posted 10-18-03

Judicial Watch Offers Jeb Bush Legal Basis to Save Terri | Posted 10-18-03

Auschwitz in America | Posted 10-18-03

Contrary to AP, Terri Schiavo is not comatose or vegatative | Posted 10-18-03

Judge orders death without trial by jury!| Posted 10-18-03

The war for Terri Schiavo's life- some links| Posted 10-18-03

Whose Life Is It? | Posted 10-19-03

Vigil Sites for Terri Schindler Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Open Letter to Gov Jeb Bush + Pix from Terri Schiavo's Vigil | Posted 10-19-03

Schiavo Case Could Cause Change In Law | Posted 10-19-03

Speaker of the House, Johnnie Byrd to introduce “Terri’s Bill” | Posted on 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Mother, brother visit Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-19-03

Will 'Terri's Bill'save her life now | Posted 10-19-03

LIVE FROM TERRI'S VIGIL - EMERGENCY - LEGISLATIVE SESSION - CALL FLORIDA REPS NOW!! | Posted 10-19-03

Schiavo life fight waged in Tampa court, state capitol | Posted 10-20-03

It is NOW Time for CRIMINAL PROSICUTION for Michael Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

Sacrament Pits Family Against Hospice [Terri Schiavo] | Posted 10-20-03

Prevent Florida State Senator James King From Blocking Terr's Law |Posted 10-20-03

TERRI SCHIAVO WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? | Posted 10-20-03

Terri Legislation Now!! | Posted on 10-20-03

EUTHANASIA WORLD | Posted 10-17-03

Legislature May Act To Save Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

FAMILIES WHO DEMAND INAPPROPRIATE MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR MORIBUND PATIENTS | Posted 10-30-03

Florida police refuse to let dying comatose woman have holy communion (Terri Schiavo) | Posted 10-20-03

Commentary: When a feeding tube borders on the barbaric | May 28, 1997 | Posted 10-20-03

Senate panel approves bill to let Bush intervene in Schiavo case with 10-2 Vote |Posted 10-21-03

Gov. Bush calls special session over Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-20-03

UPDATES FROM TERRI'S VIGIL - 10/21 - FREEPER THANKS| Posted 10-21-03

FREEP: Should the feeding tube be re-inserted into Terri Schiavo? (Bill OReilly Poll) | Posted 10-21-03

Saving Terri Schiavo (A MUST READ!!) | Posted 10-21-03

Terry Schiavo Executive Order Governor's Office (email) | Posted 10-21-03

[Florida] Senate Panel Approves Schiavo Bill | Posted on 10-21-03

FREEP THIS POLL(AOL Members): Should Terri Schiavo be allowed to die? | Posted 10-22-03

Winners and Losers in the Terri Schindler Affair | Posted 10-22-03

Koppel, Nightline and Schiavo: Left Wing Priest Criticizes Florida's Intervention | Posted 10-21-03

FReep CNN to tell them to correct Terri Schiavo question ("brain damaged" not "comatose") | Posted 10-22-03

Public Statement of the Schindler Family in Response to the Statement of Michael Schiavo | Posted 10/22/03

Million Mother Hens for Terri - Prayer Thread | Posted 10-22-03

complaint filed today with AG Ashcroft RE: Theresa Maria Schiavo | Posted 10-21-03 |

TERRI IS NOW BEING RE-HYDRATED. WE DID IT! BUT PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRAY, E-MAIL | Posted on 10-21-03

Terri Schiavo Begins Receiving Fluids and Hospital Care - (Current Status Alert!) | Posted 10-22-03

TERRI SCHIAVO MISSING - REMOVED FROM HOSPITAL W/O FAMILY'S CONSENT [Update: She's back at Hospice]| Posted 10-22-03

What if There Is Something Going On in There? - (Terri Shiavo - erring to the side of caution) | Posted 10-22-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of brain damaged woman | Posted 10-22-03

URGENT - ACTION NEEDED AT ONCE for Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-22-03

Dobson Speaks Out About Terri Schiavo | Posted 10-22-03

Affidavit of Carla Iyer, nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo from April 1995 to July 1996| Posted 10-23-03

To Restore Religious Freedoms. | Posted 10-23-03

Schiavo Law Puts Heat On Politics | Posted 10-23-03

Senate President Orders District Offices To Offer Living Wills | Posted 10-23-03

Woman's Sustaining Care Resumed- But Experts Say No Hope Exists For Her Recovery | Posted 10-23-03

THE FIGHT TO SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO - Chris Ferrara's Legal Brief for Terri | Posted 10-23-03

Attorney: Terri Schiavo Again Being Fed Through Tube | Posted 10-23-03

Scorning the Courts in Florida (NY Times backs killing Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Governor knows best (Bush slam on Schiavo)| Posted 10-23-03

Questions swirl around husband of brain-damaged Florida woman| Posted 10-23-03

Terry Schiavo: Another Case of Convenience v. Compassion |Posted 10-23-03

The Battle for Terri - How Bush's Orders Were Carried Out| Posted 10-24-03

Father: Brain-damaged daughter responsive | Posted 10-24-03

Michael Schiavo Larry King Live | Posted 10-24-03

LIST OF TERRI SCHIAVO's RIGHTS. PASS IT ON!!! | Posted 10-24-03

Doctors defend life for Schiavo | Posted 10-26-03

Burden of Proof: The Killing of Terri Schiavo| Posted 10-25-03

Media 'getting it wrong' on Terri Schiavo story | Posted 10-25-03

Is Terri Schiavo Dead? Eat, drink, and vegetate| Posted 10-25-03

NEWS ABOUT TERRI SCHIAVO | Posted on 10-25-03

ACLU to enter Schiavo legal fight | Oct. 25, 2003 | Posted 10-26-03

Bobby Schindler (Terri's brother) on Geraldo tonight | Posted on 10-26-03

Advocacy Center--State of Florida--Press Release [Schiavo Abuse Investigation] | Posted 10-26-03

The Martyrdom of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-26-03

ACLU Indignation over Landslide of Terri Schiavo Support | Posted 10-26-03

New Terri Schiavo update & request for information |Posted on 10-26-03

Terri Schindler-Schiavo: Basic Terri - a synopsis of info | Posted on 10-26-03

Husband Michael Schiavo to Do Some Image-Polishing - FROM THE FRONT LINES AT VIGIL | Posted 10-26-03

Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative, Compassionate (Terri Schiavo Case) | Posted on 10-26-03

The essence of life is how we live it, not for how long. | Posted 10-26-03

A Fate Worse Than Death in Florida | Posted 10-27-03

Terri- A sweet voice-crying deep within. | Posted 10-27-2003

Anyone see Mr. Schindler on Hannity and Colmes just now? | Posted 10-27-03

Geraldo Show, At Large, Guest Attorneys Both Agree, Terri Should Live | Posted 10-26-03

Husband (Michael Schiavo) in Right-To-Die Case Rips Parents | Posted 10-27-03

Agency to probe alleged spousal abuse of Terri Schiavo | Posted on 10-27-03

Continuation for Request of Intervention on behalf of Terri Schiavo Posted 10-27-03

Doctor Says Schiavo Likely Victim of 'Some Kind of Trauma' | Posted 10-28-03

Schindler's attorney Pat Anderson to appear on Fox News with reaction to Michael on Larry King |Posted 10-28-03


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To: FR_addict
From the list of articles at the beginning of this thread, click on Judge in Life or Death Case Considered Conservative ... posted 10-26-03
201 posted on 10/29/2003 2:55:50 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: EternalVigilance; syriacus
Here is Syriacus' post 5214 from the first monster Terri thread. I'm not sure if it helps or not, but it is interesting.

Learned a little more about "potassium imbalance" yesterday. It seems it can occur during a struggle and can affect the heart.

During the struggle, not only do the levels of the catecholamines increase in the blood but so do blood potassium concentrations. The increase may be as much a 5 mEq/l or more in some individuals. Following cessation of exercise, there is an immediate, rapid drop in blood potassium to concentrations that approach 2 mEq/l. Five minutes after cessation of the exercise potassium levels may be lower than when they were at rest. There may be a prolonged hypokalemia lasting 90 min or more.

These extremes in potassium concentrations can have cardiac arrhythmogenic effects. The arrhythmogenic effects of the hyperkalemia, however, are neutralized by the cardioprotective effect of the elevated levels of catecholamines.

Thus the danger time for arrhythmias is immediately following cessation of physical activity, when blood catecholamine concentrations continue to rise while potassium levels drop dramatically to hypokalemia levels. This period has been referred to by Dimsdale et al. as the time of post-exercise peril, in that there is a risk of cardiac arrhythmias during this period.

Forensic pathology, 2nd ed., Vincent J. DiMaio and Dominick Di Maio. Chapter 22...Sudden Death During or Immediately after a Violent Struggle. (p 500-501)

5,214 posted on 09/22/2003 10:27 AM EDT by syriacus (Prankin' Al Franken....says he didn't lie to Ashcroft. His letter was only a prank. A Frankenprank?)

202 posted on 10/29/2003 2:56:05 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Republic
If information comes to light thru further investigation, and the awarded party was found to have been wrongfully awarded payment due to fraudulent testimony, inept investigation, or inferior representation on the part of the defendent's counsel, can this be changed?

I don't know but that's a good question. I don't know what the ramifications would be in this particular case, since I believe the insurance company that paid the award has since gone out of business. But it would be interesting to know what sort of repercussions it would have on MS. What a convoluted case!
203 posted on 10/29/2003 2:57:54 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Prayer sent ...
204 posted on 10/29/2003 2:58:19 PM PST by manna
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To: pickyourpoison
Wow! I will have to get that Reader's Digest. Doesn't suprise me. I will go online to see if they have that article online at RD website. If they do, I am going to forward it to the Chief Justice of that "Circus" Court.
205 posted on 10/29/2003 3:04:16 PM PST by atruelady
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To: cyn
Michael Schiavo is a damn liar and I'll bet you he voted for Bill Clinton twice.
206 posted on 10/29/2003 3:05:59 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: cyn
He's got something to hide, thus the attempt (hopefully to be thwarted) at a 'fast-track' cremation w/her ashes spread at PA Schiavo place.

FWIW, cremation is allowed by the Catholic Church, but spreading the ashes is forbidden. They must remain together. I hope Michael really isn't planning to do that in the event he pulls the rest of this off. It would be the final horrid blow to Terri's family.

207 posted on 10/29/2003 3:06:08 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: First_Salute
I would be willing to bet that the current relationship between MS and his girlfriend will end in a messy break-up with her exposing him for the creep we all know he is - and if it hadn't been for all this publicity over Terri, he'd just as leave bump her off, too.
208 posted on 10/29/2003 3:08:59 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
with this post, I too agree. The only thing is, I am still not sure why the bs would be so high, even with d5w. But I need to read up some more!
209 posted on 10/29/2003 3:14:54 PM PST by countrydummy
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To: Republic
So Nov. 6th then? I hope Ms. Anderson will also be there
210 posted on 10/29/2003 3:14:57 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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To: iowamomforfreedom; Admin Moderator
I never even CHECKED my "Comments" page till about 2 months ago. Now I have pages and pages and pages of posts....

Oh dear! Imagine all the FReepers who thought you were ignoring them. Yikes!

Wouldn't it be nice to have a feature to delete old posts? (Hint, hint!)

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211 posted on 10/29/2003 3:15:11 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: FR_addict; miltonim
The person telling me this did not know how the police were notified, so we can't say if it was the treating physicians for sure. Yeah, what did her exam show? Did the police interview Michael? I'd sure like to see the medical & police records. . .

I've been at http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1003264/posts -- info downloaded from terrisfight. Many people have thought it was important to spend time & money try to get justice for Terri -- why has justice for Terri been elusive?

(snip from #18): "The probate court system has blocked all attempts to rationally review this decision to sentence Terri Schiavo to death."

212 posted on 10/29/2003 3:23:19 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: All
Hi all! I've lurked here for a while but never posted. If any of you freepers are interested, how about helping out a little over at this board when you can. http://forums.ibsys.com/viewmessages.cfm?sitekey=gws&Forum=79&Topic=9283
It's a national forum and it's clear most of these people don't have a clue about Terri.

213 posted on 10/29/2003 3:23:48 PM PST by A-plus
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To: Pegita
I read that one. That's why I don't necessarily think it is conservative vs. liberal. Greta seems liberal to me, so does Geraldo R. and both of them are giving a fair shake to Terri's family.

I would have thought O'Reilly would have been on the family's side but he brings on people that claim she is in a persistent vegetative state.

Maybe even Larry King woke up after he had Michael on. I think he was surprised at Michael's answers, especially his negative reply to taking a lie detector test, not allowing the CNN cameras in, and the fact that this man is having kids with his new girlfriend, while he professes his undying love for Terri.

Evidently Catherine Crier was completely against Terri's family. I think of her as liberal, but I wouldn't have expected her to be as negative as it was reported she was.

Because the Florida legislator has a majority of Republicans, I think liberals at first blush take Michael's side, but anyone that looks at the facts comes over to the other side. We can't allow this one judge to allow a state sanctioned death on such flimsy information from her abusive husband.
214 posted on 10/29/2003 3:24:14 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: cyn
Nah, it's more than alimony. Her family was willing to give up any rights to any of her money, to pay him to get guardianship of Terri.

The family might have been willing to give up the rights to her settlement but the issue of alimony doesn't appear to be part of that agreement. I ran across that issue in reading a filing for removing Michael as guardian (I think it was the last filing as it mentioned the small amount of settlemnt monies left). It does bring up another reason why he wouldn't want a divorce....he has a 'new family' to worry about and he would have help to pay for her keep until she died. They brought it up as a reason why he wouldn't divorce her and give his child legitimacy.

As for the Schindlers buying Michael off, the father admitted that it was a ploy by their lawyer and if he had accepted, they would have to try to raise the money (there's no doubt in my mind that they could've done it..I would have helped).

Looks like I saved the wrong articles today and will need to search again.

BTW....I am very much in support of Terri and her family

215 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:00 PM PST by Krodg (I believe, I pray and I fight.)
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To: A-plus
You don't have to go any further than this to understand how people don't have a clue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1008725/posts
216 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:20 PM PST by bonfire
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To: GodBlessUSA
I doubt the bulimia angle too. Who has said they ever saw her throw up, who recalls even one conversation with Terri about bulimia?
Yeah, it's a secretive thing. Like domestic violence.
217 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:26 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: EternalVigilance
Being the Schindler's will be on LKL next Thursday, you shoulf send LK your finding's EV!
218 posted on 10/29/2003 3:27:53 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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To: atruelady
If you find it, can you give everyone a link to it?
219 posted on 10/29/2003 3:31:51 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Mo1
That the court allowed the fund pay for the legal fees because Felos is Terry's lawyers also.

Is Felos officially Terri's lawyer? If so, the first thing a GAL should do is fire him. Then seek some investigations because Felos has been very clearly not been working to ensure Terri's interests.

For example, what exactly is documented about Felos' intention to write a book about Terri? It seems that in and of itself suggests some pretty big conflicts of interest right there.

220 posted on 10/29/2003 3:33:12 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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