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Posted on 08/31/2005 4:00:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse
President Bush: "We are dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history." Push has appropriated vast federal resources to assist with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
78,000 people are currently in shelters. New Orleans evacuation continues. 10,000 additional National Guard troops have been called to service.
Hospitals are running low on supplies, and public health concerns include water borne disease, poor sanitation, food and drinking water contamination and shortages, mosquitoes, carbon monixide poisoning from electricity generators, lack of childcare, and the special needs of the elderly.
Links to various news, local and state government websites:
WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
Inside Houma Today includes shelter and volunteer updates
WLBT.com Jackson MS
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
St Bernard Local Government
Alabama Homeland Security Volunteers can sign up online
Alabama DOT
Alabama.gov
Louisiana Homeland Security
Louisiana State Police road closure info
State of Mississippi Website has traffic alerts, emergency contact numbers
Streaming Video:
WWL-TV: http://www.khou.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad
WDSU-TV: http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx"
WPMI-TV: http://www.wpmi.com/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=113739
WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/
WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95563
Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#
Related FR Threads:
FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread
Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?
Post Hurricane Katrina IMAGES Here
Martial Law Declared in New Orleans
Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.
www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12
These levees needed a lot more than maintenance. Earthen dams -- even if they are capped with cement don't have the strength. They showed diagrams on FOX of what is happening and anyone who knows about dams realizes that the pressure on these things is incomprehensible right now and they are being undermined from underneath as well as too much direct pressure on the sides. The Army Corp built huge levees in Central California years ago and they, too, failed in a big flood... lucky that mostly farmland was in the path of those levee's.
Biblical proportions.
The military simply HAS to come in and regain order. Those little thugs need to be faced with bigger guns and either disarm or die.
Correct. I wept reading about a woman bawling as she loaded up a cart with diapers, water and food to bring her children at the shelter: where none of that stuff was available.
One CNN babe did have good questions. She was reporting from Baton Rouge, and asked why the local governments didn't have better evac plans in the first place.
Said the Feds have given cities lots of money to prepare evac plans, but the LA Lt. Gov. was making excuses about storm coming too fast, etc. etc.
They showed thugs yesterday battering a bank door with a ram of some kind and then taking a road grader to smash the door and windows when the ram didn't work.
Situtation is critical.
I'm not leaving, so stop asking. I'm staying. I am staying until this shitstorm has blown itself out. Period. End of discussion.
No for some updates:
1. Been too busy to debrief the police officer, so that will come later. Low priority now.
2. Buses loading people up on Camp Street to take refugees to Dallas, or so the word on the street (literally) is.
3. Dead bodies everywhere: convention center, down camp street, all over.
4. National Guard shoving water off the backs of trucks. They're just pushing it off without stopping, people don't even know it's there at first -- they drop it on the side in debris, there's no sign or distribution point -- people are scared to go near it at first, because the drop points are guarded by troops or federal agents with assault rifles who don't let people come near them, which scares people off. It is a mess. When people actually get to the water, they are in such a rush to get it that one family left their small child behind and forget about him until Sig carried him back to the family.
5. Lots of pics coming soon when Sig has time to update.
It's raining now and I guess that's a relief from the heat. It's hot as hell down there in the sun. Crime is absolutely rampant: rapes, murders, rape-murder combinations.
I have really cut back answering IMs. Not enough time. I apologize people.
In case anyone in national security is reading this, get the word to President Bush that we need the military in here NOW. The Active Duty Armed Forces. Mr. President, we are losing this city. I don't care what you're hearing on the news. The city is being lost. It is the law of the jungle down here. The command and control structure here is barely functioning. I'm not sure it's anyone's fault -- I'm not sure it could be any other way at this point. We need the kind of logistical support and infrastructure only the Active Duty military can provide. The hospitals are in dire straights. The police barely have any capabilities at this point. The National Guard is doing their best, but the situation is not being contained. I'm here to help in anyway I can, but my capabilities are limited and dropping. Please get the military here to maintain order before this city is lost.
Doing what we can, this is Outpost Crystal getting back to work.
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Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)
(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)
• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.
There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.
Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB
I assume. Many of them were volunteers I've read. Some may be escorting the most critical patients.
This is a mess. I urge everyone to call their congressman and senators. That's what they are for. Interrupt their break. People are dying at the convention center.
He was armed as were most of them but went out with the best of intentions of helping. He is x LE in south LA and frustrated because he could see people in the distance he was headed to but was called back when other boats were shot at. He can't get it out of his mind today and I look for him to try going back.
Who is Hoss and why should I trust anything he has to say?
I've asked this question before and didn't get an answer.
Secretary Chertoff made it pretty clear yesterday during his Homeland Security briefing that, as the department in charge now of the Gulf coast crisis, they will act as a military to quell civil unrest IF the Governor of a state mandates it.
Otherwise, they are only able to help with rescue.
Has the Governor of LA asked for the military to help law enforcement personnel in a law enforcement capacity?
The main thing people don't understand about the South, paticularly, La, Ms, and it's neighbors, especially if all you see of it is on TV, is that they're is a lot of people living in poverty they're and most of it is very rual. A lot of the middle class are lower middle class or working poor.
Limosine liberals like whine about illegal immigrants, and the poor in other countries but we've got alot of poverty in right here in the USA, and unfortunately much of it is concentrated in places like Mississippi and Louisiana.
It makes me sick to think that we can clothe feed and educate millions of illegal immigrants, but when our own citizens get clobbered by mother nature we have trouble dropping water bottles to them so they don't die of dehydration on I-10.
Yeah, dude. Like yaknow, when the '92 riots broke out all over LA...it was totally like a laid-back kinda thing. Know whadda mean?
I think you nailed it. They can't get to the Superdome (apparently) and nobody seems to be distributing anything to them. Surely somebody at a FEMA or National Guard command post somewhere has a TV on to see those folks?
Also sounds to me like they've gotten caught short on assets that can move through flooded streets, if there are such things--very high-clearance vehicles, boats, airboats, whatever. Somebody a while back mentioned LCACs (Landing Craft Air Cushion, hovercraft used by the Marines as landing vehicles) but those things are way, way too big to navigate a city.
They can't just throw supplies in the back of a truck and go blasting off to the convention center, what happens if the water's too deep along the way and the truck floods out? Now you've got some Guardsmen or FEMA folks or NOPD or whatever stuck out there too, probably with looters and other various ghouls closing in.
And as for whoever said FReepers were happy to see looters shot...no. But I, for one, am a damnsight unhappier at thousands of people being denied rescue because the bastards HAVEN'T been shot. At this point, I don't give a flying fish if President Bush has to order the 101st down from Fort Campbell and have them rappel in there from a fleet of Blackhawks to clean house. A coherent and proper rescue and evacuation of New Orleans is not going to occur until somebody gets a handle on the security situation down there, and if that requires shoot-to-kill orders on anyone so much as looking cross-eyed at a National Guardsman, so be it.
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Exactly. Can you imagine three or four cops letting loose and shooting anybody walking in or out of a store? That's just crazy. Besides, the cops are trying to survive too.
To: Cboldt
These levees needed a lot more than maintenance. Earthen dams -- even if they are capped with cement don't have the strength. They showed diagrams on FOX of what is happening and anyone who knows
about dams realizes that the pressure on these things is incomprehensible right now and they are being undermined from underneath as well as too much direct pressure on the sides. The Army Corp built huge
levees in Central California years ago and they, too, failed in a big flood... lucky that mostly farmland was in the path of those levee's."
Max pressure on a levee occurs when all the water is on one side.
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