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HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links
various FR links & stories | 09-02-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:35:55 AM PDT by backhoe

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KEYWORDS: AFTERMATH; HURRICANE; KATRINA; TROPICAL;
 
 Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
 
 Previous Threads:
Katrina Live Thread, Party XII
Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Katrina Live Thread, Part X
Katrina Live Thread, Part IX
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
 
And a special hattip to our own  NautiNurse  who started and maintained the above valuable posts--
 
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First off, let's debunk and defang the myth, meme, shibboleth and current hot talking point that "It's ALL Bush's Fault"--
 I have heard many leftists say that Bush slashed $20 million from FEMA funds that would have been used to reinforce the levee system in New Orleans.
 
MSM: Take Note - Clinton's Contribution to the Katrina Disaster ( Must Read )
Source:
 The Federal Register ^
 People have been talking for years about what would happen should a hurricane this size hit that city, and I'd be willing to bet you there were lots of federal dollars passed from hand to hand over the years to prepare for this.
I will be astounded if some of those reporters don't ask the obvious questions: Where did the money go, why weren't officials prepared? It's not like it was a secret this could happen someday.
 Bill Clinton did not sign for the improvements & money requested by the Army Corp of Engineers & LA to make them. Source:  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474591/posts?page=77#77 
 
Q.3. Why only Category 3 protection?
A.3. That is what we were authorized to do. [Answer by the Corps of Engineers]
 http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/083005cccawwlunwatering.45718845.html
 There are already the accusations that federal money was diverted away from improving NO's levee system for other purposes, likely the war.Yes, Sidney Blumenthal already planted that political urban press using the foreign press to launder out the Clinton fingerprints. The way to shoot it down is to explain that the fed money was there but because LA refused to put up any of the state matching funds that were required by law before the fed money could be spent. Since LA made it clear for several years that they weren't going to provide those matches and expected the feds to pay 100%, the money was diverted to other needs, of which there were many.
 
 
Critics Say Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control -- Hint to the Liberals --This is NOT a road you want to go down --Shall we open up the books to the BILLIONS of dollars that was sent to NO and what happened to it all?
 Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged.
 
 
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What is worse, this danger was known about, and written about, and studied, for years:
 The Lost City of New Orleans? (Dec 2000)
 
 NASA Flooding Simulation
 
 2004 Amazingly Precise Prediction of New Orleans Disaster -- This was entirely predictable and inevitable to anyone who has followed the issue.
 
 
 
 
  Click on the thumbnail to open full picture in a new window.



This is a 1998 modelling of a CAT 4 or CAT 5 moving through New Orleans-- Here is what they predicted for flooding....
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/content/katrina_projected_flooding082805.pdf

 Apocalypse Live (Description of a category 4 or 5 hurricane from three weeks ago)

 Gone with the Water -- Published last fall - eerie... 

 Drowning New Orleans -- Scientific American ^ | October 2001 |

 From Jeff Master's weather blog on http://www.wunderground.com
"I'd hate to be an Emergency Management official in New Orleans right now. Katrina is pretty much following the NHC forecast, and appears likely to pass VERY close to New Orleans. I'm surprised they haven't ordered an evacuation of the city yet. While the odds of a catastropic hit that would completely flood the city of New Orleans are probably 10%, that is way too high in my opinion to justify leaving the people in the city. -- posted on 08/27/2005 8:04:52 PM EDT

 
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Here are the pictures:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://sigmund.biz/kat/index.html has the archives of both the cam and camera shots taken from just before the hurricane to today. (it takes quite a while to load unless you have wide broadband.)
 
 
 
 
Complete Aerial Picture Survey of Mississippi Coast Damage
 
 
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...and here is contact information for those trying to get information:
 
 
 
 Food for the Hungry , is a good solid Christian relief organization with VERY LOW Administration cost. Approx 93% of contributions go to actual relief.
 Don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but here is a website for people to leave messages letting loved ones know they are OK or to post the names of people they are in search of: Katrina Check-In
 
 
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In roughly reverse chronological order, here are the best links  I have culled since this story broke:
 
 
New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes (Blanco gives shoot to kill order?) -- Wow!
When guns are outlawed, only the government and outlaws will have guns.
 
 Tourists Realize They're Afterthought, Band Together
 
 New Orleans radio system flooded -- "I'm absolutely astounded by the degree and pervasiveness of the incompetence and malfeasance at both the municipal as well as state goernment level in this disaster." -- if you've been watching the Governor,  the mayor and police chief  the past few days ...... to call them "incompetent" is an insult to incompetents.
 
 
 Instant Haiti.
 Water May Linger for Months (New Orleans, "Gone With the Wind?"
 
 Levee repair work has yet to begin (Another Levee Break - 700ft wide NOLA will take 3-6 mos to dry) -- Would the last person to swim out of NOLA please bring the flag?
 NOLAntis. The Lost City.

  Masques of Death (A sewer of applied liberalism, New Orleans was lawless long before this week.)

New Orleans in Anarchy With Fights, Rapes -- Politicizing a tragedy? No, teaching valuable lessons, if they dare.
 
 Ted Koppel blames Bush for failure to evacuate poor prior to the Katrina hitting New Orleans -- Dateline pretty much did the same thing. ABC has a Meme and it is the new strategy of the Left... use the disaster to crucify the President.
It is obscene.
 
 
The Katrina syndrome: What a hurricane can teach -- I didn't really enjoy the article until the end..when he compared how they everyone the warnings about levees and sea levels and hurricanes, etc., until disaster struck....and then it was too late.
And when he then compared that to the border issue, and how the signs are all there, but nobody in the government cares to do anything about it. And when they do, it will be too late.
 
 The Great Society our welfare System has Created.

 Gasoline Prices & Katrina

 Hurricanes, Hatred and Hypocrisy

Don't blame Katrina
 
 Ford blasts Bush’s handling of Hurricane Katrina -- The Governor of LA is supposed to be coordinating with FEMA, isn't she?
Yep. But she has vanished. She can't go on television without bawling like a baby, so her handlers are hiding her.
 You asked, "What in the world is wrong with the governor??"
She's so afraid of doing something wrong that she can't do anything right. You can see her "deer in the headlights" look on television. She's an incompetent political hack thrown into a nightmare situation and she's just frozen.
 
 
Rebuilding New Orleans doesn't make sense
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475129/posts
 
 New Orleans, the Tragedy -- This is the article from which Rush quoted in the first hour of his show today.
 
 
 Shephard Smith "Grandstanding" in New Orleans, showing dead bodies on Fox News. -- "Personally, I don't think the networks should have 'saved us' from the horrors of 9-11 as they did. Perhaps if the reality of that situation had been known then people wouldn't have so easily forgotten."
Amen to that! I agree 100%! If they had show the real carnage, people would be supporting our troops now, instead of low-lifes like Cindy Sheehan.
 
 
 The global warming crowd says it's Bush's fault.

The Zionist Christians say it's Bush's fault.

The Islamist Jihadists say it's Bush's fault.

The Democrats say it's Bush's fault.

Millions of idiots can't be wrong.

 Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans -- I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be tarred & feathered. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.

 Heart of America: Common People Doing Heroic Things

Thought-provoking opinion:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1474387/posts?page=106#106
" In my opinion, the time for optimism has passed. New Orleans did not dodge a bullet, New Orleans suffered a worst case doomsday scenario. But this is far far bigger than New Orleans alone.
By my count, America has lost not one city, but nine of them. "
 
 
 Read this great rant from Pukin Dog then, no typing required --
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1474141/posts
 
 
 
 Storm may shut refineries for months -- Keep the EPA multiple gas blend suspension in force, suspend the federal & state gas taxes indefinitely, start importing from IRAQ, drill - drill - drill where the caribou roam & wherever else it is geologically promising, start building refineries & identical nuke plants (one thing the French have done right), start using our vast coal supply by building liquification/gasification plants.

 Turn Bases into Refineries part 2 -- This is a excellent idea, which will help the LONG term problem (just like building 10 new nuke power plants).
For SHORT term help, suspend taxes on gas for 90 days, suspend requirements for 40 different blends of gas for the nation, pass legislation to end lawsuits against MTBE's (which the enviro-weenies are responsible for in the first place), proclaim closed military bases as "refinery empowerment zones", where they will have a 100 year lease on the land, be shielded against environmental lawsuits, and not taxed for 10 years.

  Analysts see Katrina as `perfect storm' for already high energy prices -- We own all of the oil sitting underneath Iraq. Why aren't we pumping it for ourselves? Gas should be 50¢ a gallon. We also own tons of oil up in the arctic. To hell with the environmental wackos - start drilling!

Timeline as best as I can quickly reconstruct from the earlier Katrina threads (times are CDT) -
3,827 posted on 08/31/2005 2:12:02 AM EDT by steveegg
 
 Katrina Packing Wind of Nearly 175 Mph (Mayor irresponsible in evac delay) -- To: Howlin
For future reference, this repeated line by the mayor and governor that "We went to bed Friday night being told it was a Florida storm, and woke up Saturday to find us threatened" to excuse why they waited so long to start the evacuation plan is total bullshit. (excuse my French)

Friday 4pm NO time report from the NWS, warns of a significant shift west, Mississippi landfall (88.5 on the grid, NO is 90), and possible more movement expected (post #388):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=388#388


By at least Friday 6pm computer models were converging on LA (post #478):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=478#478


Turns out those computer models had been run at 2pm (post #526):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=526#526


In fact some computer models run at 7am NO time Friday had predicted a NO hit(post #224):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1471043/posts?page=224#224

So unless the gov and mayor went to bed Friday afternoon, they knew then that it likely was headed their way.
 
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 I wonder if someone should start a tread for ideas on how we can all prepare ourselves for a disaster like this?  Go to the Threat Matrix threads. LOTS of information.
 Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Twenty-Two
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/preparedsurvivalistsunite2/?yguid=95479470
 
 Emergency Kit
 

Travel Pack --- BOB (Bug Out Bag)

(These items should be packed in portable "duffle bags" ready to go)

• 1-qt water per person
• Identification (copies of records/cd
• 2-"energy bars" per person
• Dehydrated food pack for one week dried fruit, vegetables, meat flour, oil, salt, pepper, spices vitamins, honey,peanut butter crackers, protein powder, powder milk
• Collapsible 5 ga. Water containers
• "Water washer" filter
• Lightweight cook kit large pot, dishes, spoons, forks knives, cups, non-stick skillet spatula, can opener, large spoon
• Towels
• 2-water proof nylon tarps
• Change of clothes for each person
• Coats,
• 1-thermal blanket
• 1-sleeping bag / person
• Matches, fire starter
• Compass, maps of areas of intended use
• 2-rechargeable/shakable flashlights
• 12v trouble light w/@cig. lighter plug
• First aid kit
• Toilet paper,
• Soap
• 1-pocket knife
• 1-fishing kit
• 1-large bowie knife (western cutlery) (perfectly weighted to serve as both fire knife and hatchet etc)
• 1-small portable mt. Climber's stove
• 1-back pack with frame
• Paper, pencil
• Signaling mirror
• 1-manual flashlight
• Whistle , portable cable saw
• Small bottle of bleach, insect repellent.
• Magnifying glass
• 100 ft. 1/2 dia. Goldline rope,
• 2 pulleys
• 50 ft. Nylon "shroudline" cord
• .22 caliber pistol w/ 500 rds. Ammo.

There are many, many variations of this Bug Out Bag. Some place more reliance on ‘defense’, property, records.

Seems one should prepare according to their own specific needs, location. Here's some info, left over from the Y2K 'scare' and survivalists
FYI …Google Search for Bug Out Bag = BOB

4,210 posted on 09/01/2005 1:37:35 PM EDT by Stand Watch Listen
 
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 Discussion Thread - Hurricane Katrina - What Went Wrong?!?


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History of corruption stirs fears about relief aid (Louisiana lawmakers get per diem raise)
 
 New Orleans Police Beating Caught on Tape
 
 Experts Say Soft Soil May Have Caused New Orleans Levee Breaches ( Water Did Not Flow Over Top) -- then where is all the money sent to the area since before 1998 to New Orleans to handle such problems?
 
 $100,000 in hurricane loot recovered in Mississippi

181 posted on 10/09/2005 12:49:41 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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 Hurricane relief workers say they witnessed Bourbon St. beating
 
 Gun sales up since hurricanes (CA) -- This is quite a phenomenon since all the footege of the looters in NO ran endlessly on the MSM.
My niece and nephew in Florida, boomer peaceniks, went out and bought their first guns last month, and have been down at the firing range learning how to use them. They are well-off, and have a lot of property to protect. Never thought I'd see the day that they would arm themselves.
MSM are probably sorry now that they showed the chaos in New Orleans 24/7 for two weeks. It opened a lot of eyes of former no-gun people.
They'll never put this genie back in the bottle.

182 posted on 10/11/2005 4:38:31 PM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)™...)
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How much blame does Gov. Blanco deserve?
 
 Katrina and Socialist Central Planning [This is the best article on FEMA that I have ever read]
 

183 posted on 10/11/2005 4:39:57 PM PDT by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)™...)
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 Gulf Coast: A Vision to Revive, Not Repeat

 Return To New Orleans Is Urged ("come on home"), Residents Return - to Ruin -- the governments money...Ain't no sucha thang.

184 posted on 10/13/2005 2:34:03 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Pump workers say they wanted to stay -- Southwest Kenner flooded solely because of Broussard's decision to shut down the pumps.
Williams Boulevard from I-10 north to near the Lake flooded solely due to Broussard's decision to shut down the pumps.
The Old Metarie Basin flooded because waters from the 17th Street Canal Breach ran south around the 17th Canal Pump Station. Old Metarie would have flooded whether the Jefferson Pumps were running or not.

 Design flaws blamed in flooding -- design flaws and even a missing floodgate contributed to the drowning of the city.

 TAKING THE WHEEL (The school bus that didn't flood)

185 posted on 10/17/2005 2:29:32 AM PDT by backhoe
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Can You Physically Help Rescue Katrina / Rita Animals?
 

186 posted on 10/22/2005 3:20:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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  URGENT HELP NEEDED: Animal Rescuers Needed IMMEDIATELY in Mountain Home, Arkansas
 
Hurricane Preparedness ( and general "bad times" links )

187 posted on 10/23/2005 5:23:56 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Blanco says Katrina documents can't be delivered by deadline -- No Document$, no Dollar$.
 
 Jeb Bush takes aim at Louisiana's hurricane effort -- What Louisiana hurricane effort?

188 posted on 10/25/2005 4:49:38 AM PDT by backhoe
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 Rev the choppers: It's time for a coup (Blanco Alert!!!) -- We will not only have the benefit of Edwards' administrative skills, but put an end to all that speculation in Congress that Louisiana might steal the Katrina relief money. With Edwards in charge, there will be no doubt, and we'll just have to put a graft item in the budget.
 
 Fed memos put Katrina body blame on Blanco

189 posted on 10/28/2005 1:33:06 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Houston We Have a Problem [LA] -- Another delivered the basic message that the Legislature was there to take care of government, and the private sector would have to wait for whatever crumbs were left.
Exactly why government is the problem.
 
WHO'S KILLING NEW ORLEANS? (Lengthy, but worthwhile)
 
 Businesses that relocated to Houston consider staying

190 posted on 10/29/2005 5:09:03 AM PDT by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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 'Katrina Cough' Lingers in the Wake of Hurricane
 
 Former Clinton Advisor Slings Accusations About Landrieu
 
 

191 posted on 11/04/2005 3:39:20 AM PST by backhoe
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 Shaggy survivors hanging on after Katrina
 
 Louisiana can't pay Katrina, Rita bills
 

192 posted on 11/04/2005 8:09:42 AM PST by backhoe
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193 posted on 11/06/2005 4:57:39 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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FactCheck Article: Katrina: What Happened When (New Updates)

 Owners of condemned homes on North Topsail Beach have few options -- Video news story of condemmed units at this link below the photos.

194 posted on 11/08/2005 4:44:59 PM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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Eye of the Storm A Katrina Journal
Link:  vinteractive ^ |

195 posted on 11/09/2005 12:43:02 PM PST by backhoe
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Criminal Probe Set for New Orleans Levees -- Seriously, this is the big story that MSM has been trying to supress as long as it could because it doesn't play into the "Bush killed the blacks" theme.
 Floodwalls in Swampy New Orleans `Like Putting Bricks on Jell-O'

196 posted on 11/10/2005 4:51:02 PM PST by backhoe
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  New Orleans at Night
 
 
 Pattern of Denial in Baton Rouge
 
 Gulfport [MS] after Katrina resembles frontier times -- At night, restaurants ... are packed, with hourlong waits for tables and a lively, manly bar scene....
 "Arrrrgggh matey, send the wench with some grog!"

197 posted on 11/21/2005 2:11:12 AM PST by backhoe
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 State of Louisiana Blocks Animal Rescue While Thousands of Pets Face Starvation in New Orleans

198 posted on 11/21/2005 2:51:07 PM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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 Archdiocese assesses extent of hurricane Katrina damage
 
 
 

199 posted on 11/23/2005 5:04:43 PM PST by backhoe
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Should New Orleans be Rebuilt?
 
 New Orleans bereft of women

200 posted on 11/25/2005 5:01:43 PM PST by backhoe
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