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Ancient DNA research shines spotlight on Iberia
EurekAlert! ^ | March 14, 2019 | University of Huddersfield

Posted on 03/15/2019 2:20:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The largest-ever study of ancient DNA from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) suggests that the Iberian male lineages were almost completely replaced between 4,500 and 4,000 years ago by newcomers originating on the Russian steppe...

Most striking was an influx of new people during the later Copper Age, otherwise known as the Beaker period because of the ubiquitous presence in burials of large drinking vessels, from about 4,500 years ago. By the Early Bronze Age, 500 years later, these newcomers represented about 40% of Iberia's genetic pool - but virtually 100% of their male lineages...

This is an extraordinary example of sex bias - a phenomenon described previously by Huddersfield's Leverhulme Trust doctoral scholar Marina Silva for India. What is even more striking now is that both Iberia and India had a similar source - a population of early metal-using stock breeders, who lived to the north of the Black Sea on Russian steppe lands, 5,000 years ago. They fanned out in both directions, west across Europe and east into Asia, their pastoralist economy, domesticated horses and wheeled wagons giving them a crucial advantage over the indigenous farming populations. Moreover, they are also thought to have brought the Indo-European languages spoken across Europe and India today...

Marina Silva added: "It's an intriguing situation, because the Beaker culture originated in Portugal and spread across Europe from there - but at the same time, or shortly after, men who probably spoke Indo-European languages were moving in the opposite direction. Resolving the population dynamics in western Europe during the Copper and Bronze Ages is a big step towards understanding the origins of the Celtic languages, which were spoken across western Europe before the rise of the Roman Empire."

(Excerpt) Read more at eurekalert.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; beakerpeople; celtiberians; celts; dietandcuisine; dna; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; iberia; iberians; indoeuropean; indoeuropeans; navigation
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The University of Huddersfield's Archaeogenetics Research Group joined an international team conducting the study which spanned an 8,000-year period. Credit: University of Huddersfield

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1 posted on 03/15/2019 2:20:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
I thought the Muppet Show introduced the Beaker culture, but okay.
Seems like a good choice for the weekly digest topic. Have a great weekend, all. The winter broke down over the past week, here, and I am NOT going to miss it, even though it was a pretty easy one for most of its length. Started to really suck after the end of last year.

2 posted on 03/15/2019 2:23:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: SunkenCiv

Meep meep!


3 posted on 03/15/2019 2:25:12 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The predominance of the invaders’ males lineages suggests that native males were killed off.


4 posted on 03/15/2019 2:27:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Darksheare
Bunsen Honeydew and his assistant Beaker

The Muppet Show: Muppet Labs - Fireproof Paper

5 posted on 03/15/2019 2:31:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: Rockingham
It could also indicate that they new coat of paint, as it were, was nearly completely male, or that they tended to have larger families, and/or lower infant mortality. They may just have been preferred as lovers, or had a little more, uh, gas in the tank as it were. For that matter, the preceding Beaker People men may have been polygamous, and not all that numerous.

6 posted on 03/15/2019 2:39:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: blam; martin_fierro

The Beaker people and their replacement of Neolithic DNA - is this remembered in Irish myth?
https://www.mythicalireland.com/MI/blog/ancient-sites/the-beaker-people-and-their-replacement-of-neolithic-dna-is-this-remembered-in-irish-myth/

Prehistoric Genocide in Ireland?
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/mace-lab/genetic-ancestry/guff_documents/Genocide_in_Ireland.pdf


7 posted on 03/15/2019 2:42:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: Rockingham
Yeah.

The invaders had horses and swords, the natives didn't.

They killed all the men and took the women.

8 posted on 03/15/2019 2:59:17 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Rockingham; SunkenCiv

Exactly. And the “invasion from the (cold) eastern lands” just like the mongols later across Europe, and the huns, visigoths, vandals, etc after the Roman Warm Period.


9 posted on 03/15/2019 3:12:51 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Eagles6

“They killed all the men and took the women.”

If it was diseases that came with the newcomers, I’d expect them to hit men and women equally. The big difference between men and women seems like it must have been by choice.

The fact that it happened pretty quickly, means that the new folks had to be working at it pretty hard. It must have been a big part of their culture/economy. Maybe their religion.


10 posted on 03/15/2019 3:24:33 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SunkenCiv

This is the makings of a Conan the Barbarian film. We’ll never know the exact history


11 posted on 03/15/2019 3:58:36 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you . C)
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To: BeauBo
Isn't it obvious?

The Beakers were strong capable men, good providers and knew how to make babies. They protected their women, supported and raised their children to be strong hard workers. They preferred the companionship of women over other men and were willing to fight for their families and land.

The pre-beaker men had begun to wear man buns, stay at home with their mothers and could not support themselves let alone a wife. They had no sense of responsibility and did whatever their mothers told them. I understand that it was during this period that basements were discovered in huts. It is suspected that this is where pre-beaker men spent their days and nights. Pre-beaker men were pseudo-intellectuals who could not hunt or plow a field. Eventually the pre-beaker women matured and wanted a real man around the hut. Man bun pre-beakers men were no longer desired and by natural selection became extinct

12 posted on 03/15/2019 4:00:13 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sure — those knives, arrows, swords, and clubs had entirely benign uses in that era of universal peace.


13 posted on 03/15/2019 4:06:57 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: OldGoatCPO
The Beakers were strong capable men, good providers and knew how to make babies. They protected their women, supported and raised their children to be strong hard workers. They preferred the companionship of women over other men and were willing to fight for their families and land.

The pre-beaker men had begun to wear man buns, stay at home with their mothers and could not support themselves let alone a wife. They had no sense of responsibility and did whatever their mothers told them. I understand that it was during this period that basements were discovered in huts. It is suspected that this is where pre-beaker men spent their days and nights. Pre-beaker men were pseudo-intellectuals who could not hunt or plow a field. Eventually the pre-beaker women matured and wanted a real man around the hut. Man bun pre-beakers men were no longer desired and by natural selection became extinct


Beakers

Pre-Beakers


14 posted on 03/15/2019 4:31:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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Horsebased societies had to constantly be on the move to find good pasture for their horses. Cattlebased societies don’t have to move because cattle can suck any nutrient out of just about any fodder or silage as cattle have to gut to do that. Coupled with metallurgy, it was a weapon of mass destruction. End of story.


15 posted on 03/15/2019 4:41:04 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“By the Early Bronze Age, 500 years later, these newcomers represented about 40% of Iberia’s genetic pool - but virtually 100% of their male lineages. This suggests that the newcomers were mainly men, and that - somehow - they all but replaced the men living there previously, whilst the local women survived the takeover.”

“Somehow?” It’s obvious that the invaders killed all the local men and took their women by force.

This is a lesson for all ages. If you don’t defend your turf and your women, invaders will come in and take them.


16 posted on 03/15/2019 4:44:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Eagles6

Exactly.


17 posted on 03/15/2019 4:45:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
What if your women don’t want to be defended, have children, or raise families? Perhaps they would rather lead in government and promote transgender and lgbtqitt causes.

I have a theory! The Iberian men packed up and left their feminist wives/daughters and went to a 3rd world beach paradise where the women still revered hard working men. The invaders came in and and took the feminism out of the feminist.
18 posted on 03/15/2019 5:04:14 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SunkenCiv
What a coincidence.
Arrival of Beaker folk changed Britain for ever, ancient DNA study shows First published on Wed 21 Feb 2018 13.00 EST
The largest ever study on ancient DNA has shown that Britain was changed forever by the arrival of the Beaker folk, a wave of migrants about 4,500 years ago who brought with them new customs, new burial practices, and beautiful, distinctive bell-shaped pottery.
19 posted on 03/15/2019 5:11:00 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SunkenCiv
I see you've got that covered. My apologies.
Apologizing for posting out of turn is what I get for not reading the thread before posting.
20 posted on 03/15/2019 5:22:30 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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