Skip to comments.Quarry, Setting and Team Marks: The Carian Connection
Posted on 10/08/2004 3:20:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
In this paper, the author proposes some specific attributions for signs deriving from the Carian or another West-Anatolian script found on in situ blocks from standing walls: quarry, block positioning, or team marks. The proposals are based on data from three distant yet related sites where such marks have been preserved, among which the Khnum temple terrace on Elephantine. In time, however, the quarry marks at Elephantine do not correspond with the other two sites. Therefore, the author proposes that the terrace was built several hundred years earlier than the Graeco-Roman Period to which the terrace is usually dated, or a select group of Carian masons lingered in the area for several hundred years, with no other evidence for them than leaving these marks.
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Looks like the late 1990s were a second springtime for the long-gone Carians.Inscription in Carian and GreekOn 8/9 November 1997 the Swiss newspaper Neue Zurcher Zeitung reported that German and Turks archaeologists, who conducted excavations at the ancient site of Kaunos on Asia Minor coast just across the Greek island of Rhodes, unearthed an inscription in two scripts. The top part is inscribed in the Carian language and the same text is repeated in the lower part in classical Greek. The inscription is a resolution of the city of Kaunos to honor two Athenians, one of whom is Nikokles of Lycekleous a fairly know person and contemporary of Demosthenes. Thus, the stone was safely dated to the second half of the 4th c. BCE.
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The HistoriesThese Deserters are Egyptians of the warrior caste, who, to the number of two hundred and forty thousand, went over to the Ethiopians in the reign of king Psammetichus. The cause of their desertion was the following: Three garrisons were maintained in Egypt at that time, one in the city of Elephantine against the Ethiopians, another in the Pelusiac Daphnae, against the Syrians and Arabians, and a third, against the Libyans, in Marea. (The very same posts are to this day occupied by the Persians, whose forces are in garrison both in Daphnae and in Elephantine.) Now it happened, that on one occasion the garrisons were not relieved during the space of three years; the soldiers, therefore, at the end of that time, consulted together, and having determined by common consent to revolt, marched away towards Ethiopia. Psammetichus, informed of the movement, set out in pursuit, and coming up with them, besought them with many words not to desert the gods of their country, nor abandon their wives and children. "Nay, but," said one of the deserters with an unseemly gesture, "wherever we go, we are sure enough of finding wives and children." Arrived in Ethiopia, they placed themselves at the disposal of the king. In return, he made them a present of a tract of land which belonged to certain Ethiopians with whom he was at feud, bidding them expel the inhabitants and take possession of their territory. From the time that this settlement was formed, their acquaintance with Egyptian manners has tended to civilise the Ethiopians.
Book II -- Euterpe
tr by George RawlinsonThe HistoriesOne thing which the Thebans declare to have happened at this time is to me very surprising. Mys, the European, they say, after he had gone about to all the oracles, came at last to the sacred precinct of Apollo Ptous. The place itself bears the name of Ptoum; it is in the country of the Thebans, and is situated on the mountain side overlooking Lake Copais, only a very little way from the town called Acraephia. Here Mys arrived, and entered the temple, followed by three Theban citizens -- picked men whom the state had appointed to take down whatever answer the god might give. No sooner was he entered than the prophet delivered him an oracle, but in a foreign tongue; so that his Theban attendants were astonished, hearing a strange language when they expected Greek, and did not know what to do. Mys, however, the European, snatched from their hands the tablet which they had brought with them, and wrote down what the prophet uttered. The reply, he told them, was in the Carian dialect. After this, Mys departed and returned to Thessaly.
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Anatolia: CariansThe Carian language remains undeciphered although the script is Greek in origin. Only about three dozen inscriptions have been found in both the language and script, many of them short and fragmentary. Herodotus reports that the Carians were Lelegians according to Cretan legend and had lived in the islands in prehistoric times; later when the Dorians and Ionians had spread to the islands they expelled the Carians to the coast of Asia. Strabo relates a similar account; however the Carians themselves disagreed with this view maintaning that they were indiginous to the region. Thucydides agrees that they were islanders and says that they practised piracy... They seem to have been closely related to the Lelegians who like the 'Pelasgians' were often mentioned in ancient literature with few details or facts included. Indeed at one time the name of Miletus had been 'Lelegeis'. The Lelegians finally settled in the region around Halicarnassus founding eight cities there, of which extant remains exist throughout the Bodrum peninsula. The Lelegians seem to have been somewhat subordinate to the Carians. No Lelegian inscriptions have been found.
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