White Europeans evolved only ‘5,500 years ago’

The Sunday Times ^ | August 30, 2009 | Jonathan Leake

[decimon]

White Europeans could have evolved as recently as 5,500 years ago, according to research which suggests that the early humans who populated Britain and Scandinavia had dark skins for millenniums.

It was only when early humans gave up hunter-gathering and switched to farming about 5,500 years ago that white skin began to be favoured, say the researchers.

This is because farmed food was deficient in vitamin D, a vital nutrient. Humans can make this in their skin when exposed to sunlight, but dark skin is much less efficient at it.

In places such as northern Europe, where sunlight levels are low, the ability to make vitamin D more efficiently could have been crucial to survival.

[JoeProBono]

white people stole my car

[bigheadfred]

possessed

Nah, I just think the "cards" are stacked against her.

I thought I read somewhere (a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away) that Edgar Cayce claimed all the races appeared simultaneously. Could be he just read a bit of Coleridge, took a couple of hits off the ol' opium pipe and dreamed he was channeling Blavatsky.

[decimon]

white people stole my car

Must've been a Camry.

[Jeff Chandler]

when you have evolution and race in one thread

Add food and pets and this thread will never end.

[decimon]

when you have evolution and race in one thread

Add food and pets and this thread will never end.

Well, there's vitamin D.

BTW - Did you know that your house pets need more vitamin D than is in their food? :-)

[Jeff Chandler]

Well, two of the dogs are both black AND white so I don’t know what to think.

[bigheadfred]

pets need more vitamin D

Which leads one to investigate why an animal grows white hair area over an injured area. And one finds that scar tissue cannot produce melanin. Which in turn leads one to believe that an early, or the first, "white" couple endured some type of total body trauma, leaving them scarred for life and such scarification, and the resulting inability to produce melanin, was passed to their children, and so on, leading to the present day.

And as such the inference can be made that white people are really the victims here...

[Red Boots]

So if my family starts eating seal eyeballs now, in 5,500 years my descendants will have nice tans? LOL!

I'm explaining (not defending) the theory of the article, nor the eating of seal eyeballs ! It was the grossest food channel show I have ever seen. The family just laid a whole seal down in the middle of the kitchen floor, and proceded to hack it to pieces and eat it, right there. Eyeballs first, with great relish.

[Oztrich Boy]

I am unaware of any dialect or variant of the English language, possibly excepting 'ebonics', that uses anything other than 'millennia' as the plural of 'millennium'.

Certainly not 'British' English.

The Shorter Oxford English Dictionary disagrees with you

[Mogollon]

I don't think they're saying that vitamin D effects melanin production.

But that was the point I was making! The degree of pigmentation is determined by the amount of melanin in the skin not the amount of vitamin D that a person ingests. The article is saying that since they switched food sources that may (or may not have) reduced the intake of vitamin D, their skin became lighter in complexion. That does not make scientific sense. Also, there are several farm grown foods that have adequate minimum daily requirements of vitamin D (milk, grains, etc.). I think the article is B.S..

[decimon]

The article is saying that since they switched food sources that may (or may not have) reduced the intake of vitamin D, their skin became lighter in complexion.

Became lighter in complexion because the darker skinned people became weaker. Only the strong survive and it was, according to this, the lighter people to prevail in this environment.

[bert]

.....Also, there are several farm grown foods that have adequate minimum daily requirements of vitamin D......

You need to do some reading. If you did, you would learn that the current daily minimum is pretty much a guess and the additive to milk barely is adequate to prevent rickets in kids and has nothing to do with adult benefits. Also, everything you learned older than the recent past is superseded by the many recent in depth studies.

There is a flu season only because people don’t get enough Vitamin D during winter months. To repeat, the flu season is the period people don’t get enough sun

Here is a good thread with leads onward. Much has been done since these studies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1929828/posts

By the way, how do you pronounce Mogollon? Mug e own?

[SunkenCiv]

tee hee...

Made in His Image: Melanin, the Sunblock That’s Just Skin Deep
ICR | August 2008 | Randy J. Guliuzza, P.E., M.D.
Posted on 08/30/2009 6:12:00 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2328247/posts

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[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

ate a seal with an Inuit family. One delicacy- the eyeballs- incredibly rich in vit D

Those big brown puppy eyes! Yum.

[blam]

I’m presently taking 8,000 IU of vitamin D-3 daily as my conditioning for the coming H1N1 flu bug.

[Pelham]

Pshaw. I’ve only begun evolving.

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

[decimon]

I’m presently taking 8,000 IU of vitamin D-3 daily as my conditioning for the coming H1N1 flu bug.

According to Cannell, if I have it right, 5,000 IUs is where you start storing the D in fat. If that is so then I'd like to know how much we can store and if people used to store enough to last the winter.

[ZULU]

There is science and their speculation.

THIS is speculation.

The Aztecs and Mayas were growing food instead of hunting it for millenia, so were the Ancient Egyptians.

What about eastern Asians?

They might not be black, but they ain;t white either.

What nonsense. And even if so, so what?