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Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists
The Daily Mail UK ^ | 21st August 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 08/21/2008 6:11:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Dogs are becoming more intelligent and are even learning morals from human contact, scientists claim.

They say the fact that dogs' play rarely escalates into a fight shows the animals abide by social rules.

During one study, dogs which held up a paw were rewarded with a food treat.

When a lone dog was asked to raise its paw but received no treat, the researchers found it begged for up to 30 minutes.

But when they tested two dogs together but rewarded only one, the dog which missed out soon stopped playing the game.

Dr Friederike Range, of the University of Vienna, who led the study, said: 'Dogs show a strong aversion to inequity. I would prefer not to call it a sense of fairness, but others might.'

The first Canine Science Forum in Budapest was attended by more than 200 experts to discuss what is going on inside the mind of a dog.

Human's inclination to invest dogs with human-like states of mind isn't as unscientific as it might appear as they really do have some remarkable mental skills that allow them to thrive in their strange habitat - our world.

Domestic dogs evolved from grey wolves as recently as 10,000 years ago since when their brains have shrunk so a wolf-sized dog has a brain around 10 per cent smaller than its wild ancestor.

Dr Peter Pongracz from Eotvos Lorand University, Budapest, and colleagues have produced evidence dog barks contain information that people can understand.

They found even people who have never owned a dog can recognise the emotional 'meaning' of barks produced in various situations, such as when playing, left alone and confronted by a stranger.

His team has now developed a computer program that can aggregate hundreds of barks recorded in various settings and boil them

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; behavior; canine; canines; dietandcuisine; dog; doggieping; dogs; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; wolves
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To: WayneS

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21 posted on 08/21/2008 6:38:16 AM PDT by palomonte
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To: ovrtaxt

Was that wrong? Because, when I came to live here, no one told me that I shouldn’t walk around sniffing everyone’s butt!


22 posted on 08/21/2008 6:39:13 AM PDT by WayneS (...with apologies to the writers of Seinfeld.)
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To: IamConservative
"She let’s our Boston Terrier “boss” her around and be dominate. Big mistake with a dog"

My wife is the same way with her dog, she let's her dog run all over her, does not disipline, spoils the dog rotten. Hence, her dog whines, does not mind her commands, just rotten to try to work with.

I have worked with my dog, taught her some simple commands and she minds very well, does not mind, won't beg and behaves well around company.

Dogs are animals, loveable animals, but they are just animals.
23 posted on 08/21/2008 6:40:28 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Just say NO... to Hillary and O'Bama)
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To: Alex Murphy

My dog begs for handouts constantly. I picked up on that and now I am a democrat.


24 posted on 08/21/2008 6:50:52 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Alex Murphy; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro

There’s some funny stuff here.


25 posted on 08/21/2008 6:52:50 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I know living with a dog has taught me to eat my own feces.

I can lick my own ... elbow.

26 posted on 08/21/2008 7:07:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro (2 =^..^= =^..^= day)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
This must mean that there are morals. But I thought that there were no morals [liberal dogma]. That humans are no higher than dogs! [liberal dogma].

Actually, it's not well known, but everything Al Gore knows, he learned from his doby. In fact, dogs started the entire environmental movement, which just goes to show how much more moral they are. The social patriarchy that cuts off humans from Gaia does not exist for dogs--so they are naturally attuned to her vibrations.

To prove this, try the following experiment sometime. Drop some trash--say an old plate with grease on it--on the ground. Your dog will immediately sense the disturbance in Gaia's vibrations and pick it up with his mouth.

27 posted on 08/21/2008 7:19:39 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ovrtaxt; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
If dogs can learn morals, does that mean there's hope for Democrats?


28 posted on 08/21/2008 7:39:45 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: Alex Murphy

Excellent article, please PING over to Hair of a dog, this is of interest. =^..^=


29 posted on 08/21/2008 8:06:06 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Slings and Arrows

....As the saying goes “You can teach an old dog new tricks”. =^..^=


30 posted on 08/21/2008 8:07:05 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Alex Murphy

A saint of a dog. =^..^=


31 posted on 08/21/2008 8:08:03 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Slings and Arrows
If dogs can learn morals, does that mean there's hope for Democrats?

Dogs are smarter than Democrats.

32 posted on 08/21/2008 8:15:49 AM PDT by Allegra (It's above my pay grade.)
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To: Allegra
Dogs are smarter than Democrats.

I dunno - in Chicago they vote for the same candidates.

33 posted on 08/21/2008 8:20:37 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: ovrtaxt; onedoug; stylecouncilor

LOL


34 posted on 08/21/2008 9:08:37 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Alex Murphy
The first Canine Science Forum in Budapest was attended by more than 200 experts to discuss what is going on inside the mind of a dog.

FOOD FOOD FOOD FOOD SQUIRREL!FOOD FOOD FOOD CAT!FOOD FOOD WHAT'S THIS THING ON MY BUTT? FOOD FOOD FOOD

There. Just send all the research money you just saved to me.

35 posted on 08/21/2008 9:09:19 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Come then, War! With hearts elated to thy standard we will fly!)
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To: Alex Murphy

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36 posted on 08/21/2008 9:13:27 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

LOL bttt


37 posted on 08/21/2008 9:22:22 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase-2 Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber!)
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To: windcliff

And cats just get wilder.


38 posted on 08/21/2008 9:36:52 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: HairOfTheDog

Woof!


39 posted on 08/21/2008 10:46:13 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: tpanther; valkyry1; GodGunsGuts; MrB; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; ...

For your reading enjoyment.

And evos wonder why people don’t take scientists seriously.


40 posted on 08/21/2008 2:21:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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