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Ancient Britain Had Apartheid-Like Society, Study Suggests
National Geographic News ^ | July 21, 2006 | Kate Ravilious

Posted on 07/28/2009 1:25:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

When Anglo-Saxons first arrived in Britain 1,600 years ago, they created an apartheid-like society that oppressed the native Britons and wiped out almost all of the British gene pool, according to a new study. By treating Britons like slaves and imposing strict rules, the small band of Anglo-Saxons -- who had come from what is now Germany, Denmark, and the Netherlands -- quickly dominated the country, leaving a legacy of Germanic genes and the English language, both of which still dominate Britain today. The new theory helps explain historical, archaeological, and genetic evidence that until now had seemed contradictory, including the high number of Germanic genes found in modern-day England... Historical and archaeological data suggest that no more than 200,000 Anglo-Saxons arrived in Britain around the middle of the fourth century A.D. This is less than half of the 500,000 newcomers that genetic models suggest would be needed to swamp the gene pool of the native Britons, who are believed to have numbered around two million. And yet Germanic genes are abundant in the English population today. Genetic studies have shown that more than 50 percent of England's gene pool contains Germanic Y chromosomes... But the researchers say 200,000 Anglo-Saxons could have dominated the English gene pool in less than 15 generations if the newcomers held a higher social standing... But not everyone agrees with the team's theory. Alex Burghart, an Anglo-Saxon historian at Kings College London, thinks that "apartheid" is far too strong a word... Sarah Foot, a medieval historian at England's University of Sheffield, also thinks the word "apartheid" is unwarranted. But she believes the research has merit.

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A rare Anglo-Saxon gold coin went on display at the British Museum in February. A new study suggests that an apartheid-like system gave Anglo-Saxon newcomers to ancient Britain both economic and social superiority over native Britons, which led to the near eradication of the Britons' gene pool.

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1 posted on 07/28/2009 1:25:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 07/28/2009 1:26:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Ancient Britain Had Apartheid-Like Society, Study Suggests

It still has, so much for 'progress & change'.
3 posted on 07/28/2009 1:31:05 PM PDT by bethybabes69 (Reichstag Flu, coming to a Country near you!)
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"Genetic studies have shown that more than 50 percent of England's gene pool contains Germanic Y chromosomes..."

The Socialist Gene???

4 posted on 07/28/2009 1:31:12 PM PDT by BossLady (Obama = "Narcissus and the Pool of Corruption")
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To: SunkenCiv

Origins Of The British

This is probably the best book on the subject.

5 posted on 07/28/2009 1:33:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

Then the Normans came along and wiped out all the Anglo-Saxons. Now, enter the Muslims...


6 posted on 07/28/2009 1:35:55 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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7 posted on 07/28/2009 1:36:23 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: SunkenCiv
The Anglo-Saaxons arrived during or just after this period when something else very serious was or had just happened:

The Dark Ages: Were They Darker Than We Imagined?

8 posted on 07/28/2009 1:38:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Wait just a guldurn minute here: wasn’t there a recent study that showed more Celtic genes in the English population then was previously thought?


9 posted on 07/28/2009 1:38:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: SunkenCiv
Astronomers Unravel A Mystery Of The Dark Ages
10 posted on 07/28/2009 1:42:32 PM PDT by blam
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English And Welsh Are Races Apart

"Gene scientists claim to have found proof that the Welsh are the "true" Britons."

Wales has the highest concentration of 'O' type blood than anywhere elso on earth.

11 posted on 07/28/2009 1:46:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds like pure suppositions to me


12 posted on 07/28/2009 1:48:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Seems to me apartheid is the wrong analogy. As conquerors, the Anglo-Saxons were top dogs, taking most of the wealth and having their pick of the women, which addresses the gene pool part. Had they segregated the races and actually lived in separate families in separate areas as in an apartheid system the gene mixing would have been more difficult.


13 posted on 07/28/2009 1:51:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Ah guess I talked stupidly when I said the officer acted stupidly.")
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To: GeronL

“Theory”...This is how Darwin got published!!


14 posted on 07/28/2009 1:57:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SunkenCiv
Here's the map of Haplogroup R (Y chromosome)in Europe. Most of the men in the British Isles are R1b1b2, which is different from the Haplogroup found in Germany which is mainly R1 or R1a1. The DYS390 marker 24 defines the original population who came out of the Iberian refugium at the end of the last ice age.


15 posted on 07/28/2009 2:03:58 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: blam

I wondered if this thread would pull you in. I posted the R Haplogroup map.


16 posted on 07/28/2009 2:05:05 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (This is the worst economic crisis since Brittney Spears shaved both ends!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Apartheid- and slavery - was the normal state of society until very recently.


17 posted on 07/28/2009 2:17:40 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Excellent.

I'm R1b (DYS390-23). The 23 after DYS-390 indicates that I came out of the Iberian refuge but went straight north where I acquired the 23 in Denmark and then went to Ireland (maybe as a Viking). The DYS390-24 left the refuge and went straight to the British Isles. (Like my sister's husband, Mr Moorhead)

My mother is a 'V' like 52% of the Skolt Sa'ami (Laplanders).

My dad's mother is U5a1a and is related to 9,000 year old Cheddar Man

18 posted on 07/28/2009 2:23:53 PM PDT by blam
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I have big teeth too, lol.

Where Do The Finns Come From

"Grave findings have shown that late Palaeolithic settlers in central Europe and their Mesolithic descendants in the Scandinavian Peninsula were Europoids, who had compartively large teeth - a seemingly comical detail, but nevertheless an important factor in identifying these populations. Although it is very unlikely that the language of these settlers will ever be identified, I cannot see any grounds for the theory that either of these groups spoke Proto-Uralic."

19 posted on 07/28/2009 2:31:57 PM PDT by blam
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20 posted on 07/28/2009 2:38:51 PM PDT by blam
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