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Ancient Greek City Uncovered in Russia [Temple of Demeter]
EU Greek Reporter ^ | May 8, 2011 | Tania Mourtzila

Posted on 05/23/2011 9:09:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

What is considered to be a unique discovery has been made in Taman, South Russia, at the Black Sea. The ruins of an ancient Greek city, dated around the 6th century BC, came to light. Archeologists are stunned both by the number of the findingsand the condition they were found in.

The excavations are proceeding with extreme caution, in order to avoid damaging the city's ancient fortress. According to historians, it is assumed that the ruins are the temple of Dimitra, the ancient goddess of fertility and agriculture, while they were able to determine the very spot of the altar. But, the number of the findings induce them to believe that a whole city has been found.

The conditions of the excavations are being extremely difficult due to how remote the place is, the lack of running water, the very cold weather ( up to -25 C during the night ). Another difficulty is the lack of money, which for the moments is being aided with the help of volunteers who are paying 13 euros a day each to participate.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; demeter; dimitra; godsgravesglyphs; metamorphoses; ovid; persephone
Ancient Greek City Uncovered in Russia

1 posted on 05/23/2011 9:09:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/23/2011 9:10:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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3 posted on 05/23/2011 9:16:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

“The conditions of the excavations are being extremely difficult due to how remote the place is, the lack of running water, the very cold weather ( up to -25 C during the night ). “

That would imply that , in the past, the weather in that spot was much, much different.

Perhaps, given time, weather pattern’s move. Maybe we are just starting to notice it, based on the ability to compile and evaluate several hundred years of data.

Either that, or this spot is proof that global warming is BS.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 9:18:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cool! That’s about a 2 hour drive from where I live. I hadn’t heard anything about it yet. (BTW, this is in the heart of Russia’s wine region!)


5 posted on 05/23/2011 9:19:22 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not too far a way, in Crimea, adjacent to the port at Sevastopol, is another Greek city of similar era. Link to photos.

Ruins of a greek city Chersonesus near black sea in Sevastopol, Ukraine
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-50205925/stock-photo-ruines-of-a-greek-city-chersonesus-near-black-sea-in-sevastopol-ukraine.html

I have been there, it is large and impressive.


6 posted on 05/23/2011 9:20:18 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: UCANSEE2
The conditions of the excavations are being extremely difficult due to how remote the place is, the lack of running water, the very cold weather ( up to -25 C during the night ).

This is BS. It's Russia's warmest region.

7 posted on 05/23/2011 9:23:39 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: UCANSEE2

Ovid was exiled to somewhere in that area, and he didn’t care for the weather, or for the fact that he started speaking Scythian like a native. :’)


8 posted on 05/23/2011 9:29:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Cowboy Bob; FlyingEagle

Thanks!


9 posted on 05/23/2011 9:29:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Cowboy Bob
It's Russia's warmest region.

Well, what do they consider 'warm' in Russia?

10 posted on 05/23/2011 10:35:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv
or for the fact that he started speaking Scythian like a native

"Sufferin suckotash. I speak Scythian."


11 posted on 05/23/2011 10:39:36 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv

I demand that Russia pull out of occupied Greece and roll back the borders to pre-6th century BC!


12 posted on 05/23/2011 10:54:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Right of Return!


13 posted on 05/23/2011 11:28:13 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: UCANSEE2
the lack of running water

Wow, the article thinks that it's odd that a wilderness area doesn't have running water. Amazing.

I'm thinking this journalist needs a massive smack to the side of the head for his idiocy.

14 posted on 05/23/2011 11:31:31 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: UCANSEE2
Well, what do they consider 'warm' in Russia?

Well, there are palm trees just down the coast. To get a better idea about the area, you should "google" Anapa, Russia. There is a pretty good Wikipedia article about it, and the area.

15 posted on 05/24/2011 12:10:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: TigersEye

:’)


16 posted on 05/24/2011 8:32:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Thanks. I might do that.

Do you think it is likely the ‘climate’ was more beneficial to agriculture back when this temple was built, or do you think it has stayed the same?


17 posted on 05/24/2011 9:16:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SunkenCiv

I need to get to work on one of those genealogical sites while this issue is trending and try to lay claim to a large estate in Scotland. Preferably one with a well-kept castle already on it. ;^)


18 posted on 05/24/2011 9:20:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: gogogodzilla

I would assume the author meant a water source like a river.

That is also what I was concerned about. If there is no nearby source of water, how good an ‘agricultural’ area would it be that a temple would be built there.

Of course, because it may have no water source today doesn’t mean it didn’t have one then.


19 posted on 05/24/2011 9:21:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
Do you think it is likely the ‘climate’ was more beneficial to agriculture back when this temple was built, or do you think it has stayed the same?

I think the climate is the same today as it was back then. This is Russia's wine growing region. The region traces its history back to the time when the Greeks were colonizing the region!

I've been told by many people that this is the land of the "Amazons" (from mythology), and just down the coast in Georgia is where the "Golden Fleece" was located.

20 posted on 05/24/2011 11:04:39 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: TigersEye

;’)

Genealogy has helped me realize I’m descended from a bunch of long lines of hardworking poor nobodies.

That’s why I was born in America.

:’)

It would still be nice to bicycle or otherwise tour through the various old stomping grounds of my many and varied ancestors. Someday, maybe. :’)

Oh, and when you get the castle, you do realize that you’ll get a knock on the porticullis some evening, and when you open it up to see who it is, you’ll be bum-rushed by a big crowd of FReepers. They’ll bring their own booze, leaf, and firearms. Par-tay!


21 posted on 05/25/2011 6:14:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv
Genealogy has helped me realize I’m descended from a bunch of long lines of hardworking poor nobodies. That’s why I was born in America.

I'm afraid that's that actual case for me too, no research needed. heh

Oh, and when you get the castle, you do realize that you’ll get a knock on the porticullis some evening, and when you open it up to see who it is, you’ll be bum-rushed by a big crowd of FReepers. They’ll bring their own booze, leaf, and firearms. Par-tay!

Now that sounds like a super idea! What I thought you might have said instead is; 'such-and-such' culture held that land before your Scots ancestors so don't bother unpacking. LOL

22 posted on 05/25/2011 6:39:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

;’) The Scoti crossed from Ireland in the Dark Ages and took over. It wouldn’t have taken so long to beat the Picts, but the Scots were also locked in combat with their sworn enemy, the Scots.


23 posted on 05/25/2011 8:05:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv
...but the Scots were also locked in combat with their sworn enemy, the Scots.

Ehhh, yeahhhhh, I'm like that. My own worst enemy. ROTFL

24 posted on 05/25/2011 8:27:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

;’) It’s in our blood. ;’)


25 posted on 05/26/2011 5:26:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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