Skip to comments.Solving the Mysteries of Short-Legged Neandertals
Posted on 10/29/2011 2:43:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
"Studies looking at limb length have always concluded that a shorter limb, including in Neandertals, leads to less efficiency of movement, because they had to take more steps to go a given distance," says lead author Ryan Higgins, graduate student in the Johns Hopkins Center of Functional Anatomy and Evolution. "But the other studies only looked at flat land. Our study suggests that the Neandertals' steps were not less efficient than modern humans in the sloped, mountainous environment where they lived."
Neandertals, who lived from 40,000 to 200,000 years ago in Europe and Western Asia, mostly during very cold periods, had a smaller stature and shorter lower leg lengths than modern humans. Because mammals in cold areas tend to be more compact, with a smaller surface area, scientists have normally concluded that it was the region's temperature that led to their truncated limbs compared to those of modern humans, who lived in a warmer environment overall.
However, Higgins' group adds a twist to this story. Using a mathematical model relating leg proportions to angle of ascent on hills, he has calculated that Neandertals on a sloped terrain would have held an advantage while moving compared to their long-legged cousins, the modern humans. Because the area Neandertals inhabited was more mountainous than where modern humans tended to live, the researchers say that this assessment paints a more accurate picture of the Neandertals' efficiency of movement as compared to humans. "Their short lower leg lengths actually made the Neandertals more adept at walking on hills," explains Higgins.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...
The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
by James Shreeve
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Not only that but the Cro Magnons won all the basketball championships.
But the neanderthals dominated the limbo competitions.
I’m 5’2, used to walk to school with two sisters who were 5’12. I was the faster, easier walker - running might have been a different story.
Everything else being equal - it usually isn’t.
Neanderthals, vs. the Cromagnons...... Colt evened the playing field. Kudos to my short statured ancestors who had the common sense in bringing a gun to a spear fight.........
maybe they didn’t need to have long legs and arms to reach the TV controls.. they didn’t have stands back then.. just a guess. or it could have been tight fitting levis,,uhh genes :-)
Dorf was a Neandertal
We are Neanderthals.
Unfortunately there was no “petite” section back then and they spent a FORTUNE on alterations.
Neanderthals were the first to domesticate a wild animal, the Side-Hill Wampus.
Cue latest Robert Reich video in 3.....2.....1.....
short cave men have no reason to live!
This article finally explains the success of the American poison dwarf, Giftswerg robertus reicccchhhisus.
So...why is it that I favor thos long-legged red haired ladies?
We are Neanderthals.
May I note:
Neaanderthals may prefer the red haired, but gentlemen prefer blonds.
Ducks and runs for cover .........
Were they below 4’10” in height? If so, they would qualify as midgets.
I bet the Sasquatches back then used those Neanderthals in their local dwarf tossing leagues!
Birthing children was easier for the shorter compact Neanderthal females. Breech births (legs first) were also more easily accommodated and if childbirth came while standing or walking - the baby didn’t have so far to fall.
This article makes them sound like dwarves out of a Tolkien book. Weren’t they more similar to the vikings?
This explains their extinction.
I postulate that one of their short legs was shorter than the other—from humping the hills.
When they came down to flatlands, they stumped around in a circle until they starved to death.
(I expect credit for this theory.)
I wonder if the Side Hill Wampus is related to the Vari-legged Jackalope of the Paleolithic Texas Hill Country. It resembled a large jackrabbit mated to an antelope.
The Jackalope had legs on one side that were longer than the legs on the other side. As a result, they could run up hills in a circular manner, leaving distinctive spiraling paths worn into the hills over time.
Alas, the Jackalope was destined for extinction. They were one of Nature’s experiments that failed the test of evolution because having once attained the crest of a hill due to the perfect conformation of its physical parts for that particular job, they could find no way to retreat down the hill and expired on the crest.
I’m sorry but I couldn’t help it......
a short legged Neanderthal named nick
couldn’t help stepping on his prick
to save him this trouble
he bent it up double
and no longer fears it a lick
Your sisters were 5’12” and your horses were 14 hands 4 inches:)
I thought Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals had been proven to be species apart from man by DNA testing?
Basket ball players spend lots of time on flat surfaces so their legs grew longer (and their pants grew shorter).
Hey, who doesn’t? ;’)
They were a bit stockier than living folks are, had a bigger brain case, made their clothing, fished, hunted, cooked food, etc etc. :’)
You’ve touched it — the likelihood is, Neandertal females had babies with Cro-Magnon males, it probably wouldn’t have worked the other way.
They didn’t farm.
63” tall, 32” inseam.
Ain’t got that problem.
Most recent testing show that European and most Asians are 2-4% Neanderthal DNA.
Africans have none.
I think they're Neandersmalls
Sure, but you ambushed that dog! ;’)
They may have farmed, but given the climate in Europe (under glaciers) during much of their heyday, evidence for their settlements and domiciles will have to be looked for on the continental shelf.
Sea gives up Neanderthal fossil [ dredged up from the North Sea ]
It’s hard enough for girls to be that tall without actually calling it six feet. They were five twelve.
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