Posted on 5/27/2015, 5:33:04 PM by SeekAndFind
Geneticists from the University of Leicester have discovered that most European men descend from just a handful of Bronze Age forefathers, due to a 'population explosion' several thousand years ago.
The project, which was funded by the Wellcome Trust, was led by Professor Mark Jobling from the University of Leicester's Department of Genetics and the study is published in the journal Nature Communications.
The research team determined the DNA sequences of a large part of the Y chromosome, passed exclusively from fathers to sons, in 334 men from 17 European and Middle Eastern populations.
This research used new methods for analysing DNA variation that provides a less biased picture of diversity, and also a better estimate of the timing of population events.
This allowed the construction of a genealogical tree of European Y chromosomes that could be used to calculate the ages of branches. Three very young branches, whose shapes indicate recent expansions, account for the Y chromosomes of 64% of the men studied.
Professor Jobling said: "The population expansion falls within the Bronze Age, which involved changes in burial practices, the spread of horse-riding and developments in weaponry. Dominant males linked with these cultures could be responsible for the Y chromosome patterns we see today."
In addition, past population sizes were estimated, and showed that a continuous swathe of populations from the Balkans to the British Isles underwent an explosion in male population size between 2000 and 4000 years ago.
This contrasts with previous results for the Y chromosome, and also with the picture presented by maternally-inherited mitochondrial DNA, which suggests much more ancient population growth.
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I have a friend in Paris that on more than one occasion I thought I had seen when there, it was uncanny how much he looked like two other guys, both of which thought I was quite insane.
Bottom line, is that dominant males were able to spread their genes, spread their seed, however you want to describe it, among a large number of females.
Re ; “a handful of Bronze Age forefathers, due to a ‘population explosion’ several thousand years ago”
So how many children do you think a guy could father in a 700-800 year lifespan? Especially with more than one wife?
Charlemagne is in the line of almost all European royalty and, somewhere in that line, almost every descendant had bastard offspring who bred into the general population.
Long story short is a handful of ancestors = nearly all of the population is the rule rather than the exception.
Charlemagne was the son of a usurper.
It’s not really all that surprising as the ancient method of fighting wars was to annihilate the losers.
ISIS and the other Moh-ham-madmen still practice war in that manner. One of the reasons there are more Saudi princes than one can shake a stick at is because King Saud after killing so many of his enemies took to himself a harem of wives and concubines and spent the rest of his life acting as if he won the Triple Crown.
Noah and his wife and 3 sons and daughters in law.
I found this line to be quite interesting:
” Geneticists have discovered that most European men descend from just a handful of Bronze Age forefathers, due to a ‘population explosion’ several thousand years ago.”
What does ‘several thousand years’ mean and what does this mean?
For me, this sounds like a relatively RECENT history.
We usually measure human ancestry in hundreds of thousands of years.
See Genesis 10(KJV).
The swastika Nazis were keen on this line of thought also. Substitute “Teutonic forefathers” for “European forefathers.”
I’m going to open up a can of worms...
The original aryans! ;-)
trace their ancestry back to Charlemagne
yup
Yup, I’m one of them.
My aunt traced our lineage back to 1374 in England. Then I later learned that one of our ancestors-—Thomas Dudley-— a governor of Massachusetts Bay Colony-— is descended from the English King Henry II of the Plantagenet Dynasty. Henry II, in turn is descended from Charlemagne, so that puts me into the Charlemagne club too, presuming all of this research is accurate.
ping!
Bronze Age is a somewhat inexact term, but generally refers to something like 2500 to 4000 years ago, or perhaps a little more.
What this evidence shows is that a relatively small number of warriors rolled in, killed the men or at least kept them from breeding and impregnated enough women to keep the population growing.
In relatively primitive societies, captive or subdued males are simply a threat. But you can always find a use for captive females.
Interesting, but somewhat less so than the demonstration about 17 years ago that ALL people on Earth are ultimately descended from ONE SINGLE female. Then about 7 years after THAT came the demonstration, also via DNA-linked genetic markers, that ALL people on Earth are ultimately descended from ONE SINGLE male. Needless to say, the team of scientists who discovered this referred to these two as Adam and Eve. So, we really ARE all related, for better or worse. There were NOT several groups of men and women who suddenly transitioned for Apes to homo sapiens, just one.
RE: See Genesis 10(KJV
Yep, In the Genesis 10 Table of Nations, the descendants of Japheth (eldest son of Noah) migrated toward Europe after the Tower of Babel dispersion
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