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A Mysterious Mammoth Carcass Could Change Human History
Gizmodo ^ | 01/14/2016 | Maddie Stone

Posted on 01/14/2016 8:42:33 PM PST by BenLurkin

The carcass was remarkably well preserved, but something was clearly wrong. A rounded hole through the interior jugal. Deep incisions along the ribs. Dents in the left scapula. A broken mandible.

This 45,000 year-old mammoth's life ended violently at the hands of hunters. That wouldn't be surprising-it's well known that Pleistocene humans were expert mammoth killers=but for the location. It was excavated from a permafrost embankment at Yenisei bay, a remote spot in central Siberia where a massive river empties into the Arctic Ocean.

That makes this brutalized mammoth the oldest evidence for human expansion into the high Arctic by a wide margin. Its discovery, published today in Science, might push back the timeline for when humans entered the northernmost reaches of the world-including the first entries into North America.

"We [now] know that the eastern Siberia up to its Arctic limits was populated starting at roughly 50,000 years ago," said Vladimir Pitulko, an archaeologist at the Russian Academy of Sciences and lead author on the study. "This makes our window into the remote part [of the planet] open wider."

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; arctic; catastrophism; dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; mammoth; mammoths; mammothtoldme; paleontology; siberia; theredbedayslike; these; vladimirpitulko
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1 posted on 01/14/2016 8:42:33 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
The other question being:

How did it get perma-frosted? That's interesting, in itself.

Did Guam tip over?

2 posted on 01/14/2016 8:44:54 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil

Many academics will tell you that when archaeological discoveries are made that don’t fit the contemporary narrative they are either ignored, sh*tcanned or ridiculed. The Chinese have been quite good at standing up to the ridicule and positing some interesting discoveries that question our understanding of the past.


3 posted on 01/14/2016 8:49:37 PM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: MSF BU

If there was gun control this peaceful creature would be alive today. /s


4 posted on 01/14/2016 8:51:58 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MSF BU
Many academics will tell you that when archaeological discoveries are made that don't fit the contemporary narrative they are either ignored, sh*tcanned or ridiculed. The Chinese have been quite good at standing up to the ridicule and positing some interesting discoveries that question our understanding of the past.

I read most of Velikovsky's stuff in my misspent youth... :)

5 posted on 01/14/2016 8:59:49 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: BenLurkin
BigEdLB Symphony 16

Please note 3rd Movement
6 posted on 01/14/2016 9:07:22 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: SunkenCiv

Any interest?


7 posted on 01/14/2016 9:10:55 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: kiryandil

Immanuel Velikovsky explains this in an intriguing and controversial book, Worlds in Collision. Here is a Readers Digest version via Wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_in_Collision


8 posted on 01/14/2016 9:32:14 PM PST by umgud
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To: BenLurkin

Mammoths must have tasted real good because you got a lot of convincing to do to get me to jab it with a sharpened stick.


9 posted on 01/14/2016 9:35:18 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BenLurkin

Out ancestors had huge cojones hunting mammoths.


10 posted on 01/14/2016 9:36:16 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: umgud; kiryandil; MSF BU

Actually, I think that whole discussion is in his “Earth In Upheaval”. :’)


11 posted on 01/14/2016 9:51:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: TXnMA

Definitely, bfl!


12 posted on 01/14/2016 9:51:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Why, yes, it is. :)

Think I still have the paperback.

13 posted on 01/14/2016 9:52:00 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: umgud
Yes, Worlds in Collision was his first book, which set the stage for some of his later theories, such as an explanation of the numerous mammoth carcasses frozen in the Alaskan & Siberian permafrost.
14 posted on 01/14/2016 9:55:00 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: umgud

EARTH IN UPHEAVAL

In this epochal book, Immanuel Velikovsky, one of the great scientists of modern times, puts the complete histories of our Earth and of humanity on a new basis. He presents the results of his 10-year-long interdisciplinary research in an easily understandable, even entertaining manner.
Inspite - or even because - of the disgraceful hostility, provoked by his theories, this book keeps being of ardent topicality, which in the light of recent scientific research is even growing.
Earth in Upheaval - a very exactly investigated and easily understandable book - contains material that completely revolutionizes our view of the history of the earth.
For all those who have ever wondered about the evolution of the earth, the formation of mountains and oceans, the origin of coal or fossils, the question of the ice ages and the history of animal and plant species, Earth in Upheaval is a MUST-READ!

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/earth-in-upheaval-immanuel-velikovsky/1019336178


15 posted on 01/14/2016 9:56:54 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: central_va

Walt always liked Mammoth. Made Joel upset as I recall.


16 posted on 01/14/2016 9:58:17 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: central_va
You are out there.......freezing to death, nothing but ice in all directions. Oh, and starving to death as well.

Look there! Spotting a mammoth.

And all you have are 20 of you with sharp sticks.

What to do, what to do...

17 posted on 01/14/2016 10:01:04 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Fred Nerks

I first read Velikovsky’s works in the 1970’s. It had an impact on me.


18 posted on 01/14/2016 10:09:25 PM PST by umgud
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To: BenLurkin
It was excavated from a permafrost embankment at Yenisei bay, a remote spot in central Siberia where a massive river empties into the Arctic Ocean.

Maybe a mammoth, injured by hunters, escaped into the river and was washed downstream a long way from where the people attacked it.

19 posted on 01/14/2016 10:11:32 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: kiryandil; Fred Nerks

I don’t have access to the text (it used to be available for d/l), but perhaps *someone* does...


20 posted on 01/14/2016 10:17:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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