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Did hardy Ice Age hunters find the West?
Springfield News-Leader ^ | 010204 | Paul Recer (A.P.)

Posted on 01/02/2004 8:42:57 PM PST by Holly_P

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:30:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Washington A people who may have been ancestors of the first Americans lived in Arctic Siberia, enduring one of the most unforgiving environments on Earth at the height of the Ice Age, according to researchers who discovered the oldest evidence yet of humans living near the frigid gateway to the New World. Russian scientists uncovered a 30,000-year-old site where ancient hunters lived on the Yana River in Siberia, some 300 miles north of the Arctic Circle and not far from the Bering land bridge that then connected Asia with North America.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: americas; anthropology; archaeology; bering; clovis; dillehay; economic; extinction; ggg; glaciation; godsgravesglyphs; history; iceage; newworld; paleontology; pleistocene; preclovis; science; siberia; yanariver

1 posted on 01/02/2004 8:42:58 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: blam
simply amazing...I got to a pre-history thread that you didn't post or had posted to yet!
A new world's record for me!
2 posted on 01/02/2004 8:45:11 PM PST by VOA
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3 posted on 01/02/2004 8:45:40 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: VOA
Thanks for the ping. We covered this subject today on two seperate threads. (Nice try though, lol)
4 posted on 01/02/2004 8:47:01 PM PST by blam
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To: Holly_P
I question the roll cold weather plays in the overall development of man and culture.
5 posted on 01/02/2004 8:53:22 PM PST by dogfaceboy
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To: blam
(Nice try though, lol)

Actually, I'm glad to see everything is going normally...despite that Orange Alert!
6 posted on 01/02/2004 8:54:26 PM PST by VOA
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To: Graybeard58
Ping
7 posted on 01/02/2004 8:59:19 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Holly_P
"...Did hardy Ice Age hunters find the West? ..."
- - -
I extend to you, this laurel, and hearty handshake.
The sheriff is a ni !
8 posted on 01/02/2004 9:00:35 PM PST by DefCon
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To: Holly_P
SPOTREP - ANTHROPOLOGY
9 posted on 01/02/2004 9:23:29 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: DefCon
"The sheriff is a ni ! "

the sheriff is near????

10 posted on 01/02/2004 9:35:21 PM PST by hoot2
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To: Holly_P
Much of Alaska was ice free during the Ice Age.
11 posted on 01/02/2004 10:37:01 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: dogfaceboy
I question the roll cold weather plays in the overall development of man and culture.

If the weather was cold, he had to work harder to stay alive. The development of technology was imperative -- fire, sharp tools, skinning and curing techniques -- and the smartest tribe won.

12 posted on 01/03/2004 7:36:04 AM PST by reformed_democrat
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To: reformed_democrat
agreed. its significant if you think about it.
13 posted on 01/03/2004 4:00:57 PM PST by dogfaceboy
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To: SunkenCiv
Here's an interesting thread for you, civ.

In Austin, it was 80 degrees this afternoon. We don't have to be too bright to survive here.
14 posted on 01/03/2004 4:03:53 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: blam; VOA
It's likely just a funny coincidence but the "Yana" River caused me to think of "Ishi",the last man of his tribe in Calif. after they were killed off.

I'm thinking "Yana" was either the name of his "Tribe" or meant "man",possibly both,in his language.

It's been a long while since I read about Ishi,so I might be wrong.

15 posted on 01/03/2004 4:27:34 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority)
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To: ValerieUSA
"In Austin, it was 80 degrees this afternoon. We don't have to be too bright to survive here."

The temperature was/is pretty warm here in Mobile too. My son from Glendora, Calif visiting for Christmas was complaining about the cold here in Mobile. I noticed the temperature forecast today for Glendora was 33-60. Mobile's was 60-73, lol.

16 posted on 01/03/2004 4:41:02 PM PST by blam
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To: Free Trapper
Ishi: A Real Life Of The Last Of The Mohicans

ISHI

17 posted on 01/03/2004 4:46:04 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
B,thanks for the link.

I've got the book but can't find it.We even keep a library catalogue and system going but one of my kids must have the book right now. :}

18 posted on 01/03/2004 4:59:29 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority)
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To: Free Trapper
"B,thanks for the link."

You're welcome. There's also a one hour documentary on Ishi, which I've seen.

19 posted on 01/03/2004 5:09:11 PM PST by blam
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To: ValerieUSA
Thanks! you know what I like. :')
20 posted on 01/08/2004 7:48:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Clovis-First-and-Only is dead)
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To: Holly_P; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; blam; FairOpinion; farmfriend; StayAt HomeMother; SunkenCiv; ...
Bumping an old topic into GGG. Thanks Val.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.

21 posted on 07/24/2004 1:59:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks for the ping SunkenCiv, but don't forget to ping everyone on this article concerning proto-humans.
22 posted on 07/24/2004 2:14:26 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: blam

the guy looks like andean inca stock from bolivia, northern chile or lower peru


23 posted on 07/24/2004 3:09:27 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

This girl I knew in East Siberia could have fit right in back in South Dakota.

24 posted on 07/24/2004 3:27:47 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: expat_panama

Thanks!


25 posted on 07/24/2004 4:20:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks!

I'm willing to hold your thanks in abeyance until such time as you've had a opportunity to read Mr. Barry's essay.  This is on the outside chance that by then you'd prefer to withdraw your thanks.

26 posted on 07/24/2004 4:45:48 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
I enjoyed it, I'm just not going to ping the GGG list with it. :')
27 posted on 07/25/2004 4:00:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Holly_P

Hey Holly. Good to see you back.


28 posted on 07/25/2004 10:15:03 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You dug up a fossil. I thought this was a new thread.


29 posted on 07/25/2004 10:16:22 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Holly_P
Hardy? I'm sure hearty ones may have. This guy wouldn't have made the trip:

BTW - The link provided above is now dead.

30 posted on 07/25/2004 10:21:17 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: Recovering Hermit

This is an old thread. I hate it when fossils are dug up and revived. It's always confusing.


31 posted on 07/25/2004 10:22:30 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: struwwelpeter

well a lot of germans did go east. but she doesn't look particularly german. more slavic to me. slavs in the dakota's?


32 posted on 07/25/2004 10:36:38 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: farmfriend
Sheesh! Reminder to myself to check thread dates. Looks like FReeper SunkenCiv revived it yesterday.

Hardy indeed!

33 posted on 07/25/2004 10:41:16 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: ckilmer

I was thinking that this Siberian girl looked like a Sioux. Probably distant relatives, 40,000 years removed.


34 posted on 07/25/2004 12:36:00 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

I did a fast google search for a sioux woman and came up with this.

http://Cheyenne-Souix-Woman.notlong.com
and this
http://Sioux-Woman.notlong.com


35 posted on 07/25/2004 1:32:49 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: farmfriend
You dug up a fossil.
That seems about right. :')


see Civ's favorites incl Books, Magazines, Movies, Music

36 posted on 07/25/2004 5:09:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Holly_P

What was the toll on the Bering Bridge at that time?


37 posted on 07/30/2004 10:26:07 PM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

38 posted on 09/14/2005 11:17:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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Note: this topic was posted 1/2/2004. Just updating the ping message. Thanks Holly_P.

39 posted on 04/15/2014 4:19:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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