Ancient Beer, Wine Jars Found in Egypt

AP/SF Chronicle ^ | 5/18/05 | AP

[TFFKAMM]

(05-18) 18:18 PDT CAIRO, Egypt (AP) --

Archaeologists digging in a 5,000-year-old site in southern Egypt have unearthed 200 rough ceramic beer and wine jars and a second mud-brick mortuary enclosure of King Hur-Aha the founder of the First Dynasty, Egypt's Supreme Council of Antiquities said Wednesday.

A joint American excavation mission from Yale University, Institute of Fine Arts, the Pennsylvania University Museum and New York Universities found the treasure Wednesday at Shunet El-Zebib, north of Abydos in the Upper Egyptian city of Sohag.

[Coyoteman]

Archaeologists digging in a 5,000-year-old site in southern Egypt have unearthed 200 rough ceramic beer and wine jars

And most folks still think our earlier ancestors were "primitive!"

[Constitution Day]

FYI

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Did they find any 5,000 year old drinking songs too? Now that would be cool(that's the drunken musician in me :) lol)

[NormsRevenge]

Beer & Wine Ping

I owe ya a few ;-)

[NormsRevenge]

I've had ancient beer, it was sold in our rec center at the base..

FoulStuff.. uhh, Falstaff , it was ;-)

[NautiNurse]

ping

[TFFKAMM]

A friend of mine has a theory about beer and wine being the true linchpins of civilization. He says that once humans learned how to ferment and drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

If I can ever get him to deliver a concise, coherent version of this theory, I'll post it on a Booze ping...

[sgtbono2002]

Is it Budweiser ? and if so what is the born date on it?

[Blue Screen of Death]

A friend of mine has a theory about beer and wine being the true linchpins of civilization. He says that once humans learned how to ferment and drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

Not to mention that it allowed ugly women to reproduce. We frequently see the results today.

[patton]

Oh I wish I were

A pretty little girl

And I had me lots of Money

I'd marry me

A bricklayin' man

And we'd have fun together!

Oh he would lay

And I would lay

And wouldn't we have one hell of of a time

A'layin on each other!

[blam]

"Did they find any 5,000 year old drinking songs too?"

Yup, it starts this way:

"99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer..."

[Calpernia]

Well,

I have no idea how the combinatin of Egypt, beer, your song and my FR nick all came together...

But it got me to read your cabin story.

I enjoyed it.

[patton]

Drink, drink, drank, drunk

drink, drink, drank, drunk

drunk last night

drunk the night before-oh

I'm gonna get drunk tonight

like I never been drunk before...

[SunkenCiv]

Your friend's not the first:

Beer Brewing Paralleled the Rise of Civilization
Kurt Stoppkotte
for National Geographic News
April 24, 2001
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/04/0424_kurtbeer.html

and for health nuts:

"Antibiotic" Beer Gave Ancient Africans Health Buzz
John Roach
for National Geographic News
May 16, 2005
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/05/0516_050516_ancientbeer.html

[ZULU]

Guess they weren't Muslims back then.

Things haven't improved.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Constitution Day. There's a hieroglyphic inscription near this new find. Translated into English it reads, "I said Bud Light".

Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

[patton]

the old fart is my father. LOL. he taught me all these drinking songs, and how to build a cabin, and...

[Calpernia]

>>>he taught me all these drinking songs, and how to build a cabin, and...

How to extinguish flaming mice :)

[patton]

Well, that, too. LOL.

[weegee]

It is a skill that has been discovered and "forgotten" a number of times in the history of man.

Have to wonder how many times it was "forgotten" because of forced prohibition.

[Alouette]

once humans learned how to ferment and drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

Is that why Muslims are so p!$$3d off all the time? Because they can't crack open some cold ones.

[TFFKAMM]

LOL!

I believe it was Bobby Bare who said,

I've never been to bed with an ugly woman
But I've woken up with quite a few!

[quantim]

Click to be added or removed.

Wine news ping.

[lizma]

drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.

Hummm. The German's drank beer, the French drank red wine. Certainly explains the early outcome of WWII.

This guy may be on to something. Never underestimate the power of Pabst's, Stroh's and Rolling Rock. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Certainly explains how the war ended the way it did.

[patton]

Oh, that is silliness. Just because I drink bier and am allergic to wine....french wine.....nevermind.

[Chode]

i got the pyramid blues???

[MarkL]

After having read about it, and seen it referred to in movies, as well as hearing about it at assorted ren-fests, I finally got around to trying mead.

Mead is wine made of fermented honey.

All I can say is, WOW! That's GOOD! I can't wait to try it hot, with a spice packet steeped in it!

Mark

[OldEagle]

"FoulStuff.. uhh, Falstaff , it was "

Years ago, a friend of mine sent some of that to his state dept of health for analysis.

Two weeks later he got a reply: "Dear xxxx; We regret to inform you that your horse has diabetes.

[Chode]

i don;t know about your friend, but here's my take as to why:

Beer was the foundation of civilization.

Man was a hunter of meat and gatherer of seeds.
One day he ate some seed that had gotten wet and had fermented.
He caught a BUZZzzz and liked the way it felt.
It took awhile for him to connect the dots in the wet grain/fermentation process to the buzzz... but he did.
He said to himself, hummm, instead of chasing the crops, if I stay in ONE PLACE and plant this stuff I can have all the wet grain I need to get buzzzed on???
Simple... instant farmer / civilization.

[RichInOC]

Alcohol--throughout history, the cause of...and the solution to...all of life's problems.

[Hank Rearden]

If there's anything in them, it couldn't possibly be any worse than any Budweiser or Coors made last week.

[tubebender]

Some grave digger has found your stash for Sundays race...

[I'm ALL Right!]

hold muh beer alert?

[Chu Gary]

From research I've seen, the beer jars carried Budweiser incriptions.

[spinestein]

[I finally got around to trying mead. ...All I can say is, WOW! That's GOOD! I can't wait to try it hot, with a spice packet steeped in it!]


Take this advice from a mead maker; the best tasting mead is made with additional ingredients, especially fruits and/or spices. If you can get a hold of a good grape, apple, or raspberry mead, or mead with cinnamon or ginger then you'll be in heaven.

Also, mead is reported to be an aphrodisiac and I believe from personal experience that theory has merit.

[NormsRevenge]

LOL..

Pharaoh's Gold

Pharaoh's Gold is truly a unique beer. Formulated from beer sediments found in an ancient brewery beneath the Sun Temple of Queen Nefertiti.

That's the hype on this Egyptian beer site anyway.. Never tried it, don't endorse it, and probably can't afford it either,, ;-)

[tubebender]

Will they sponsor our race car???

[TheLion]

"Not to mention that it allowed ugly women to reproduce."

[MarkL]

Well, the mead that I've tried is from California, the brand is Chaucers. I found a liquor store here in KC that has 4 or 5 different brands. 2 brands are from Poland!

All I know is that it's really different. But then I like drinking "different" things. My favorite libation is Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter, and I like having good chocolate chip cookies, along with Young's Double Chocolate Stout!

But this mead is really something else!

Mark

[NormsRevenge]

IN today's globally intertwined marketplace,,

If this beer recipe is really that good..

They'd be rolling in the dough and loaded in no time,, and so would all their customers, I reckun. ;-)

[NormsRevenge]

I may have had a bit of mead at some time.

Lagers and pales are my preference.

[lizma]

Oh, that is silliness.

I don't know, but I think history teaches us that beer drinkers rule, red wine drinkers drool.

It's the John Waynes that make a dent, not the metro John Kerrys. I fear the day that changes.

[RebelTex]

"Did they find any 5,000 year old drinking songs too?"

Row, row, row your boat
drunkenly down the Nile
MaryLee throw him overboard
feed the crocadile

[Chinito]

and in a bazillion years when they dig up my back yard...

[TFFKAMM]

Jeez, looks like the contents of my recycling bin on collection day!

[1FASTGLOCK45]

lizma wrote:
drink alcoholic beverages, it influenced everything from agriculture, to law, to economics, to religion and morals.
Hummm. The German's drank beer, the French drank red wine. Certainly explains the early outcome of WWII.

This guy may be on to something. Never underestimate the power of Pabst's, Stroh's and Rolling Rock. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Certainly explains how the war ended the way it did.

--> Actually, the Germans also had 'Speed' and other drugs they used while drinking LOL.

[Neanderthal]

Now to take them back and get the deposit . . .

[Renfield]

I want to be buried with my Belgian beer collection.

[mcar]

LOL