Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

First Modern Britons Had 'Dark To Black' Skin, Cheddar Man DNA Analysis Reveals
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 2-7-2018

Posted on 02/06/2018 11:31:05 PM PST by blam

The first modern Britons, who lived about 10,000 years ago, had “dark to black” skin, a groundbreaking DNA analysis of Britain’s oldest complete skeleton has revealed.

The fossil, known as Cheddar Man, was unearthed more than a century ago in Gough’s Cave in Somerset. Intense speculation has built up around Cheddar Man’s origins and appearance because he lived shortly after the first settlers crossed from continental Europe to Britain at the end of the last ice age. People of white British ancestry alive today are descendants of this population.

It was initially assumed that Cheddar Man had pale skin and fair hair, but his DNA paints a different picture, strongly suggesting he had blue eyes, a very dark brown to black complexion and dark curly hair.

The discovery shows that the genes for lighter skin became widespread in European populations far later than originally thought – and that skin colour was not always a proxy for geographic origin in the way it is often seen to be today.

Tom Booth, an archaeologist at the Natural History Museum who worked on the project, said: “It really shows up that these imaginary racial categories that we have are really very modern constructions, or very recent constructions, that really are not applicable to the past at all.”

Yoan Diekmann, a computational biologist at University College London and another member of the project’s team, agreed, saying the connection often drawn between Britishness and whiteness was “not an immutable truth. It has always changed and will change”.

The findings were revealed ahead of a Channel 4 documentary, which tracked the ancient DNA project at the Natural History Museum in London as well as creating a new forensic reconstruction of Cheddar Man’s head.

(snip)

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aborigines; ancient; ancientautopsies; australia; blacksinvadedafrica; britons; cheddarman; genetics; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; tombooth; yoandiekmann
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-184 next last
I've been reporting about Cheddar Man on FR now for about 15 years. I've told you that my dad's mother (Mrs Smith) has the same mtDNA as does Cheddar Man, U5a. Also, I've read that blue eyes in humans came from one mutation event and that everyone with blue eyes can trace their DNA back to that single event. I have bright blue eyes.

Cheddar cheese is named for this area in Great Britain and a descendent (Adrian Targett) of Cheddar Man today lives about four miles from where Cheddar Man was found.(How would you like to be able to tell your friends, yup, my family has lived in the area for 10,000 years)

Some previous articles about Cheddar Man that I've posted:

Descendant Of Stone Age Skeleton Found (Cheddar Man - 9,000 Years Old)

Ancient DNA (Cheddar Man, Otzi, Etc)

1 posted on 02/06/2018 11:31:06 PM PST by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam

I have Blue eyes. My gran#ma and her mom were Cherokee with blue eyes


2 posted on 02/06/2018 11:36:29 PM PST by buffyt (I am the way the truth the light, no one comes to the Father except by ME. Jesus said...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Sadly, with the amount of “fudge factor” shenanigans they’ve pulled in the scientific world as of late, I’m wondering about their conclusions here.
Considering that they alter facts to fit political talking points with “global warming”, and outright ignore dna and chromosomes when it comes to gender.
What are the chances this didn’t get the fudge treatment?
Any guesses?


3 posted on 02/06/2018 11:38:58 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

This is total Kr@p.

Skin color is certainly NOT Race.

When I wuz a kid, race was pretty clearly delineated into a few “Races” by multiple characteristics well beyond skin color.

Pakis were Caucasian along with Finish Albinos.

Given that the Caucasus is full of Islam, who would want to be one of those?

Science has advanced tremendously beyond that of the 50s.

Racists need to get into the DNA data and tell us what is up on a Scientific basis..


4 posted on 02/06/2018 11:43:31 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

I believe Michael Jackson had the same DA. He was born black, but later became white.


5 posted on 02/06/2018 11:43:32 PM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

I’m with you. The coloring I see here is PC shaming.


6 posted on 02/06/2018 11:47:26 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blam

The Marxist BS never stops


7 posted on 02/06/2018 11:48:09 PM PST by Altura Ct.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Maybe a bit more on the dark tan side, the image reminds me of that hilarious blackface pancake makeup they put on Obama a few times to emphasize his “blackness” during photo ops.


8 posted on 02/06/2018 11:49:15 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: blam

People of modern British ancestry descend from many groups. Britain was under constant invasion from about 50 AD until 1066.


9 posted on 02/06/2018 11:51:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare; SunkenCiv
I understand your concerns and have similar. I lean toward believing this though. I've read previous stories about blue eyes and dark skin...so.

All Blue-Eyed People Can Be Traced Back To One Ancestor Who Lived 10,000 Years Ago Near The Black Sea

Blue Eyes, Dark Skin: How European Hunter-Gatherer Looked, 7,000-Year-Old Genome Shows

A lack of Vitamin D caused people to turn White.
I take 10,000IU of vitamin D and 100MG K2 every day.

10 posted on 02/06/2018 11:51:57 PM PST by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blam; SunkenCiv

Copy that.
Just hoping that for once politically correct bs didn’t sneak in.
I long for the day science is free of that.


11 posted on 02/06/2018 11:54:54 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: blam

...... Guess they will have to change the name to Chocolate man now .....


12 posted on 02/06/2018 11:55:49 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
"People of modern British ancestry descend from many groups. Britain was under constant invasion from about 50 AD until 1066."

Here is an excellent book on that subject, Origins Of The British

13 posted on 02/06/2018 11:56:02 PM PST by blam
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I think that the problem was that the Vikings were scammed by travel agents.

No free boarding, no free ship parking, no welcoming wine and cheese party and no ATMs/Bank of Scandinavia Branches..

They had to get home after the fun and rowing a ship with a
RAM truck behind on a raft was difficult.


14 posted on 02/06/2018 11:58:08 PM PST by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: blam
First Modern Britons Had 'Dark To Black' Skin, Cheddar Man DNA Analysis Reveals

Who writes this crap?

The headline is impossible, since Britain did not exist until the Second Century A.D.

I suppose it all depends on what your definition of "is" is... .. or what your definition of "modern" is...

...or mostly, what your agenda is...

Moving right along...

15 posted on 02/06/2018 11:58:42 PM PST by publius911 (Am I pissed? You have NO idea...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
We are all Africans.
16 posted on 02/07/2018 12:00:37 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare; Salamander
"What are the chances this didn’t get the fudge treatment?"

Somewhere South of Zero.

17 posted on 02/07/2018 12:01:40 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blam

Long ago ( maybe 1960 ?), I read a great novel about very ancient Britain, wherein the original people were dark ( very dark hair, not very dark brown, but darkish complected; swarthy is a better term )and on the short side. They were invaded and conquered by blonde, pale skinned people, on the tallish side. So perhaps there is “some” truth to the findings; however, that model is a sick joke and not just PC in the extreme,but RACIST BS! This “finding” is akin to the GLOBAL WARMING hoax!


18 posted on 02/07/2018 12:02:56 AM PST by nopardons
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

And their GPS was about as good as ours.


19 posted on 02/07/2018 12:03:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

Well.. GPS and the boat driver was drunk on fermented honey mead.


20 posted on 02/07/2018 12:04:11 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 181-184 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson