Lamh Foistenach Abu!
Posted on 11/25/2011 5:38:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Those who are unhappy fall into one of two camps: either habit and time have made for reluctance to change for the better, or they are modernists who are displeased by the English speaking world finally getting a better translation. Either way, it’s a wonderful thing, and a welcome one also.
OH Seek we going start this weekend at my local SO CAL Church I see what about
They been giving us “lesson” about it what going be in it I think what we going odmit or what we going allow in
I THINK SO
OH Seek we going start this weekend at my local SO CAL Church I see what about
They been giving us “lesson” about it what going be in it I think what we going odmit or what we going allow in
I THINK SO
Community agitators got to agitate.
The loudest complainers are the liberal dissidents. And, I suppose, some of the younger Catholics who never saw anything else but the lousy ICEL translation may be confused by those complaints.
But, no question, it’s a big improvement.
Lamh Foistenach Abu!
It is not a revised Mass. The author of this article and far too many people think that the Mass in English simply is The Mass. If that were the case, what about the Italian or Spanish or Polish folks?
Is it too hard for these folks to grasp that the translation has been revised (and vastly improved)? Sheesh.
Agreed. The publishers are trying to cram the new words into the “old” (campy) melodies.
The problem arises from the Catholic publishing industry. They didn’t dare wait because if they did, people might actually have learned that they could do without these publishers and their overpriced and crappy products.
**liberal dissidents.**
Translation — CINO democrats.
Catholics as a whole did not change the Mass. Sheesh the latest news snipes on this would lead one to believe us Catholics are as dumb as bag of hair.
Also, instead of omitting the Latin prayer “Laudamus te, benedicimus te, adoramus te, glorificamus te, gratias agimus tibi propter magnam gloriam tuam,” which follows in the original text, the new translation reads,” We praise you, we bless you, we adore you, we glorify you, we give you thanks for your great glory, Lord God, heavenly King….” Morrow said.
I am going to give Morrow the benefit of the doubt that he didn't actually make these incredibly ignorant utterances and assume that the "reporter" was too thick to understand him properly.
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I look forward to the “new” translation of the Sacred Liturgy.
What upsets me about this mangled version is that it is impossible to sing along which excludes the laity from participating in one of the most beautiful prayers of the Mass.
Hymns sung during the offering or communion are different and I have no problem when the choir or cantor sing difficult arrangements then.
But, if it is a prayer that is part of the worship of the Mass, the laity is meant to join.
My husband, the Catholic who made his way back to the church after, shall we say, a long hiatus, isn’t mad or anything, just said “And I just re-learned what I was suppose to do and say a few months ago! “ but we’re more then willing to learn what is considered a better translation. My mother still thinks it should all be in Latin, and although her singing voice left her some years back, she knew entire masses in Latin, including all of the songs! I don’t think she missed a Sunday Mass from 1935- 1980- ish.
The new translation won’t be unfamiliar in style to what Eastern Catholics get here in the U.S.
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