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Vintage Skulls
Archaeology Magazine ^ | March/April 2003 | Colleen P. Popson

Posted on 02/22/2003 9:06:38 AM PST by blam

VINTAGE SKULLS

Researcher Silvia Gonzalez examines a 13,000-year-old skull. (Liverpool John Moores University)

The oldest human remains found in the Americas were recently "discovered" in the storeroom of Mexico's National Museum of Anthropology. Found in central Mexico in 1959, the five skulls were radiocarbon dated by a team of researchers from the United Kingdom and Mexico and found to be 13,000 years old. They pre-date the Clovis culture by a couple thousand years, adding to the growing evidence against the Clovis-first model for the first peopling of the Americas.

Of additional significance is the shape of the skulls, which are described as long and narrow, very unlike those of modern Native Americans.

Joseph Powell, a physical anthropologist at the University of New Mexico, cautions that other explanations for the skull shape differences must be considered before jumping to conclusions about origins. "Natural selection or some other microevolutionary forces may play a role. People change when their diets change. This happened in China, for example. Ancient Chinese don't really look much like modern Chinese from the same area. It's a worldwide phenomena and it may be related to the changes at the end of the Ice Age."

Paleoindian specialist Kenneth Tankersley believes archaeology is only beginning to scratch the surface of the debate. "Variation in the languages and DNA of American Indians not only suggests there were multiple migrations from a number of different homelands, but they imply that the first wave of people arrived in the Americas more than 30,000 years ago. This suggests archaeologists should be looking in older geological strata."

DNA evidence might be the best way to know where the first Americans came from and how or why they changed over time. The researchers have planned DNA tests, though successful extraction from remains this old is challenging.--COLLEEN P. POPSON


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To: blam
The Hakka are not, of course, Han, nor are the Han Hakka.

All same thing these days though. We had one Freeper note that the Hakka girls are prettier than the Han girls and I'd be forced to agree on that point.

121 posted on 02/15/2007 6:45:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

I think it's something more like the "curl" you find in the hair of the base population in Okinawa. As far as "light" hair goes, there are North Central Asians who definitely have "light" hair ~


122 posted on 02/15/2007 6:56:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"We had one Freeper note that the Hakka girls are prettier than the Han girls and I'd be forced to agree on that point."

My local (Hakka) Chinese friend says the same thing. He said that in front of his wife and then said, "see how pretty she is."

123 posted on 02/15/2007 7:00:57 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

I remember a DNA study that was done a couple of years back that was trying to “prove” the land bridge theory by comparing the mitochondrial DNA of native new worlders from South America, Central America, West Coast of North America all the way up to Alaska, in the hopes that they could establish a linear link of DNA all the way back to Siberian natives. But they could not. IIRC, they established that the closest link to South American natives’ DNA was to people from TAIWAN!...........


124 posted on 09/28/2007 10:36:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Red Badger
This is close to the most recent:

Journey Of Mankind

125 posted on 09/28/2007 10:45:22 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

I suppose that it is possible that the Ainu came across the same land bridge as the later people. It’s interesting that the indigenous people lobby is now including the Ainu as the indigenous (and exploited) people of Japan.


126 posted on 11/27/2007 11:20:26 AM PST by Eva
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The indians lost and the cowboys one. Indians are just a bunch of spoilsports.
127 posted on 01/28/2008 1:02:41 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Restorer
All kinds of cracker-heads in the world!!
128 posted on 01/09/2009 2:51:38 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: blam

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129 posted on 10/20/2009 7:06:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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130 posted on 11/05/2009 2:31:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: blam
Updated the link.

Ainu

131 posted on 04/21/2013 7:16:44 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Thanks.


132 posted on 04/21/2013 7:23:51 AM PDT by blam
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133 posted on 04/22/2013 6:23:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Chris Talk

“3971 BC”

Interesting, do you mind if I ask where that date came from?


134 posted on 11/27/2014 7:46:45 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

and yes I know this is an old thread,

doesn’t hurt to ask,


135 posted on 11/27/2014 7:50:49 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

Don’t bother waiting for an answer.

He was banned.


136 posted on 11/27/2014 7:57:42 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Aarchaeus

Did he say why she did that?


137 posted on 11/27/2014 7:57:57 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks Jet Jaguar,

At least we bumped an interesting thread,


138 posted on 11/27/2014 8:17:31 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: captmar-vell

Agreed.


139 posted on 11/27/2014 8:25:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Dang, this thread is almost as old as the skulls!


140 posted on 11/27/2014 8:31:22 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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