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Italian Archaeologist: Anatolia - Home To First Civilization On Earth
Beku Today ^ | 6-20-2003

Posted on 06/22/2003 9:14:54 AM PDT by blam

Italian Archeologist: Anatolia - Home to First Civilization on Earth

Prof. Dr. Marcella Frangipane is trying to convince scientists that Anatolia is the source of civilization on earth, and not Mesopotamia, as historians have claimed.

20/06/2003 13:20

After 13 years of work in the Aslantepe Mound Orduzu, Malatya, Frangipane says the archefacts she uncovered prove that the first civilization was established in Anatolia. According to Frangipane, the swords he found in Aslantepe and the palace, are the oldest in the world. These findings contradict everything in history books. Frangipane held a seminar, accompanied by a slide show, entitled 'Anatolia and Birth of State' for academics at the Turkish Embassy in Rome. While finding her assertions 'striking', Italian experts said they wanted to discuss the subject in a larger scientific forum.

Frangipane's ideas rock Italian and Global scientific circles

With Turkey unable to promote Aslantepe, the first excavations were done by the French in the 1930's. Their research has been continued by Italian Rome La Sapienza University archeologists since 1961. The Italians have covered all the costs, including the hiring of a custodian to protect the artifacts. Frangipane works hard to publicise his findings, which will earn Anatolia a place in history. Turkey, however cannot sufficiently promote it. Aslantepe was a city from 5000BC to 712BC, until the Asyrian invasion, and was later abandoned for a long time. It then became a Roman village from 500 to 600AD, and later the Byzantine necropolis. The first palace in the world was built in Aslantepe in 3350BC. There are storage chambers, a corridor, a courtyard and a temple in the palace.

Zaman / TURKEY


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To: Bernard Marx
"It was a colorful time to live in the Bay Area!"

Boy O Boy, That it was.

I think 580 was hwy-17 in those days. I still tell people about a sign that was once at the hwy-17 and 101 interchange. The sign looked like a bowl of spaghetti and said 'MINGLE', no kidding.

My only child (Dr blam) was born in San Jose hospital in 1968. He presently lives in Glendora.

41 posted on 06/22/2003 7:43:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I think 580 was hwy-17 in those days.

As I remember, Hwy 17 was the 'Bloody Nimitz.' The 580 a.k.a McArthur, runs to the east, roughly connecting Hayward and Oakland via pretty green rolling hills. The Angels on their bikes and in their 'colors' seemed jarringly out of place in that upscale environment. I guess their 'business' interests enabled them to buy real estate wherever they wanted to. As for the sign at the Nimitz and 101, I don't recall it specifically but I certainly came close to "mingling" on it any number of times. That was (and maybe still is) one scary freeway!

42 posted on 06/22/2003 8:38:46 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: blam
Monday morning bump.
43 posted on 06/23/2003 6:46:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: Bernard Marx; blam
No, BM, I didn't mean the Aussies weren't Ainu. I merely cited that article as an example that there's other people who have also been called the "most hairiest". I also cited it as perhaps a common denominator in the "hairy people" dispersals.

I laughed at that picture, Blam. Going bald certainly doesn't qualify as hairy. LOL But I still can't get where they say those people don't have slanted eyes. They look like "Asian Eyes" to me.

I also became amused at the link you sent. It's the same one that I used to back up what you said. That's funny.

BTW, I was at the feed store today. TheY have a tail and mane shampoo for horses. I was thinking it'd be good for all that hair on my St Bernard. The guy told me that his WIFE won't use anything else on her own hair and has turned others onto the trick. It's said to be especially good for "hairy people". (grin)
44 posted on 06/23/2003 2:28:09 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
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To: blam
PS National Geographic has a nice piece in July's issue about China.
45 posted on 06/23/2003 2:30:30 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
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To: JudyB1938
"The guy told me that his WIFE won't use anything else on her own hair and has turned others onto the trick. "

I've heard that for years from women. In fact, I think the human usage drove up the price some.

46 posted on 06/23/2003 2:40:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: JudyB1938
"LOL But I still can't get where they say those people don't have slanted eyes."

I agree. That's the only picture I could find of someone that claims to be Ainu. I've seen others that don't look asian at all.

I've read some speculation that the original Samurai were these tall, hairy and light skinned people and that they were the original 'royals.' ...and, that the Japanese custom of 'white face' was the Asian types way of emulating the appearance of the royals. Also, there are supposedly ancient paintings of the Samurai that depict these people and the Japanese keep these paintings in hiding. Even so, I've seen pictures of Samurai with full beards and real hairy leggs.

47 posted on 06/23/2003 2:49:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I think you posted that one time about the "white face". That sure makes sense to me. Stuff isn't done just for funsies. There's some kind of realty behind it.
48 posted on 06/23/2003 4:15:55 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (It's a wild world. There's a lot of bad and beware.)
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To: blam; JudyB1938
That's the only picture I could find of someone that claims to be Ainu. I've seen others that don't look asian at all.

Try this one. I can't post it because it's copyrighted:

http://phototravels.net/japan/pcd0733/ainu-full-93.html

Realize that there are very few full-blooded Ainu left. They are vanishing through interbreeding with Japanese. Consider how few full-blooded African blacks remain in the U.S. or South America, and how often they exhibit mixed-race physical features.

The web site where you found the images of the Count and the Tocharians is...um...interesting. Given its rather obvious bias I'm inclined to give its objectivity a lot of Kentucky windage. But even it agrees with my point that the Ainu are called "hairy" only in contrast to the rather hairless Japanese.

49 posted on 06/24/2003 10:52:44 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: blam
bump for tomorrow
50 posted on 06/24/2003 11:00:46 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ASA Vet
And what if the underwater city off Cuba turns out to be Mu?

I thought that was supposed to be Atlantis?

51 posted on 06/24/2003 11:04:16 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Say Hey! Hey! Damn Yankee!")
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To: blam
Modern humans have the same number of hair folicles as the present day monkeys/apes. Not all produce hair or at least 'big' hair.

Then there's WWF's George "The Animal Steele". You couldn't see his back at all.

52 posted on 06/24/2003 11:09:28 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Say Hey! Hey! Damn Yankee!")
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To: JudyB1938
"On Murray River in South Australia, they were described as extremely hairy of chest and body, which puts them in a class with western white Europeans, who are probably the world's hairiest people."

My money is on the Celts when it comes to amount of hair. I'll just say personal experience.

53 posted on 06/24/2003 11:15:31 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Say Hey! Hey! Damn Yankee!")
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To: Bernard Marx
"The web site where you found the images of the Count and the Tocharians is...um...interesting. Given its rather obvious bias I'm inclined to give its objectivity a lot of Kentucky windage. "

Yeah, I just use their pictures.

54 posted on 06/25/2003 6:29:56 AM PDT by blam
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To: Bernard Marx
"Realize that there are very few full-blooded Ainu left. "

Good picture, thanks. Pictures are hard to find.

55 posted on 06/25/2003 6:32:48 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
self-ping
56 posted on 11/30/2003 1:55:00 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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57 posted on 05/01/2005 9:09:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: JudyB1938

I just read your 2003 post, and was intrigued with your mention of a very hairy mexican family with possible blood afinities to China. I have often thought that the Chinese landed on the West coast of Mexico, perhaps in the area originally known as Aztlan. Do you know what state these people lived in. I studied some archeology and anthropology in Mexico, so have a special interest.


58 posted on 07/11/2006 4:48:14 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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