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TERRORISM and COUNTERTERRORISM: News, INFORMATION & Analysis #2
Free Republic | 4/11/2010 | FReeper Collaboration

Posted on 04/11/2010 9:33:03 AM PDT by Velveeta

TERRORISM AND COUNTERTERRORISM
      News, INFORMATION & Analysis

Obama amputates our nuclear arms

By: Charles Krauthammer

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Under President Obama’s new policy, however, if the state that has just attacked us with biological or chemical weapons is “in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty,” explained Gates, then “the U.S. pledges not to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against it.”

Imagine the scenario: Hundreds of thousands are lying dead in the streets of Boston after a massive anthrax or nerve gas attack. The president immediately calls in the lawyers to determine whether the attacking state is in compliance with the NPT. If it turns out that the attacker is up-to-date with its latest IAEA inspections, well, it gets immunity from nuclear retaliation. (Our response is then restricted to bullets, bombs and other conventional munitions.)

However, if the lawyers tell the president that the attacking state is NPT noncompliant, we are free to blow the bastards to nuclear kingdom come.

This is quite insane. It’s like saying that if a terrorist deliberately uses his car to mow down a hundred people waiting at a bus stop, the decision as to whether he gets hanged or 100 hours of community service hinges entirely on whether his car had passed emissions inspections.

Apart from being morally bizarre, the Obama policy is strategically loopy. Does anyone believe that North Korea or Iran will be more persuaded to abjure nuclear weapons because they could then carry out a biological or chemical attack on the United States without fear of nuclear retaliation?

The naivete is stunning.

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To: All; Cindy

FBI seeks Lookout Point Dam intruder (OR)
http://www.kgw.com/news/Mystery-Intruder-at-Dam-121811964.html

Pic and video of intruder at link


2,121 posted on 05/13/2011 6:53:36 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,122 posted on 05/13/2011 8:09:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LucyT; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

See your MRSA and raise you a Brown Recluse

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/brown-recluse-spider-most-dangerous-in.html


2,123 posted on 05/13/2011 9:33:20 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: Velveeta

Thanks. FYI
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/help-fbi.html


2,124 posted on 05/13/2011 9:49:23 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,125 posted on 05/13/2011 9:49:27 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Great Fars, thanks!


2,126 posted on 05/13/2011 10:23:01 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta

THANKS Vel.

News to me and I appreciate the ping.


2,127 posted on 05/13/2011 10:51:46 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

By chance I came across a post by Race Bannon back in JULY 2005 on a search for something else on the Internet and found the “debate” then was interesting and also involved a Freeper who was later banned.

Actually a dual identity person who posted as both as F14 Pilot and also as Khashayar, who presented a fictitious background story (including to Race Bannon and others) and in reality was suddenly infiltrated into Canada by the Mullahs.

His last known job at the time was for a Commander of the Revolutionary Guard (IRGC) in Iran.

He did not like Alan of AntiMullah, who was able to check him out and openly tries to discredit him on FR.

The post and resulting discussion is quite interesting and REMEMEMBER came about some SIX years ago.

Rather than being simply dated, it invites opinion / comments in the new current global enviromment.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1437203/posts?q=1&;page=1


2,128 posted on 05/14/2011 3:37:59 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: Velveeta; All

Direct look at how Syrian dissidents are being handled by Iranian forces.

And video of some unusual animals

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/syrian-dissident-gets-handled.html


2,129 posted on 05/14/2011 6:31:30 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks FARS:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2490938/posts?page=2128#2128

unrelated sidebar:

YouTube - Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was Murdered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg


2,130 posted on 05/14/2011 7:29:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,131 posted on 05/14/2011 7:57:52 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

Many excuses were provided during George W Bush’s presidency for not taking military action (even imposing harsh sanctions) against the Mullahs’ regime. Notice I said “Mullahs’ regime”, not Iran. Especially post Saddam’s removal in Iraq in 2003. “Regime change Iran” became almost taboo in some quarters & by some “softly, softly” pro-mullah regime lobby grps & individuals.

During GWB’s second term in particular, I distinctly remember some of the more popular excuses, assumptions & generalitites about Iran (even by some on FR) being:

- military action would prompt Iranian people to join the regime against America
- it will hurt the Iranian people who are mostly pro-America
- we’ve to support pro-democracy movement in Iran (whatever that meant...)
- China & Russia would object to military action by the US & counter it
- we have to stabilize Iraq first (never mind that Mullahs’ regime has been instrumental in destabilizing Iraq so far & will continue from now on..)
- Iran is not Iraq (of course it isn’t - but in the context of military action against Mullahs’ regime, what was the point of trying to differentiate?!)
- MeK is an “anti-Iranian” terrorist group, Jundallah is another terrorist grp, some Kurdish grps are terrorists as well. Those Iranians who have leftist tendencies are really bad too. Mossadegh supporters are out of question, and some, to date, still haven’t given up on vilifying all the good that the Pahlavis did for Iran & Iranians, preferring to incessantly focus on Savak’s deeds, thereby accusing the Shah of being a dictator, a tyrant & what not. So, what’s or was left for ‘opposition’?? Talk about being divisive!

And then, suddenly, in 2007 (I think it was) the NIE report popped up! That seemed to be *the official* icing on the cake for not taking military action against the Mullahs’ regime.

Haven’t the Mullahs been the worst offenders in terms of bloodshed, executions, repression, economic mismanagement, international terrorism, poverty, maiming, raping, and so on.. for the past 32 yrs? Isn’t it still the case?

Begs the question why some who vehemently accuse/accused the abovementioned grps of terrorism & as being no good, view the terrorist mullahs’ regime (and its different shades) as more acceptable.

Unfortunately, just before the NIE report, I remember in 2007 (I think) the previous US administration granted a visa to Mullah Khatami to visit the US.. I also recall, when GWB was asked about it, he reportedly had said (I paraphrase): “I want to see what he has to say...”. At the time, I wondered, after some 28 yrs, how come it wasn’t clear what Mullahs such as Khatami had to say! So, what makes/made negotiating with or having dialogue with one set of terrorists i.e. regime figures acceptable, compared to other so-called “terrorist grps”??

Bizarrely, the same people who put forward all those excuses re Mullahs’ regime during GWB’s administration, did not do so for Saddam’s regime. Of course, since Obama admin., many of the same people have either kept quiet about and/or actually expressed the belief that getting rid of Mobarak, and bombing Libya under the banners of ‘people want democracy’ and it is ‘for humanitarian reasons’ was justified!! None, to my knowledge, UNlike with Iran, questioned who & what will or might replace Mobarak or Ghaddafi....

There is more, but suffice it to say that there is and has been inconsistencies galore....


2,132 posted on 05/14/2011 11:27:59 PM PDT by odds
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To: Velveeta; tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee

This event happened March before Osama went to hell to meet 72 poed Virginians.

My best bet is this guy is one of the green eco terrorists living in the Eugene to Ashland area. He hates dams and people below the dam.

He is probably a trust fund red diaper green punk. He hates America and Americans for daring to live on his planet.


2,133 posted on 05/15/2011 7:22:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ~Peter; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 3D-JOY; 4woodenboats; ...

Are we really so naive as to sit still in the face of a choking noose tightening around our throats?

(Not saying I have the answer) - what do you think?

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/want-federal-conract-first-prove-you.html


2,134 posted on 05/16/2011 5:41:14 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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To: FARS

We’re in the middle of a coup.


2,135 posted on 05/16/2011 6:56:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: FARS

Thanks!! for the link

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/05/want-federal-conract-first-prove-you.html

I like the way Rep. West does his cross eximanation. This is the way we expect our elected officials to conduct themselves..... He keeps the pressure on.... He does posses backbone which seems to to missing in most of our elected officials.

I would be very interested in seeing him on the Ticket


2,136 posted on 05/16/2011 8:07:14 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: FARS

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/16/video-transparency-on-parade/

and then watch this! West!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOH90piD5-4&feature=player_embedded


2,137 posted on 05/16/2011 8:08:54 PM PDT by bitt
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


2,138 posted on 05/16/2011 8:26:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: FARS

We are living in a time where political correctness reigns supreme. That is the noose that is tightening around our necks. If anyone dares criticize Islam, he/she is quickly reminded that all Muslims are not bad. I maintain that, should Islam manage to somehow destroy our freedom and we were placed under the Islamic yoke, all of those so-called peaceful Muslims would quickly get on board with the radicals. They would do so rather than lose their lives, of course.


2,139 posted on 05/16/2011 9:24:51 PM PDT by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: little jeremiah

depending on how the cookie crumbles we may be farther along than the middle


2,140 posted on 05/16/2011 10:06:49 PM PDT by FARS (Be healthy, happy and thrive,)
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