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Did the First Americans Come From, Er, Australia?
Reuters ^ | Mon Sep 6, 2004 09:24 AM ET | staff

Posted on 09/06/2004 8:04:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Silvia Gonzalez from John Moores University in Liverpool said skeletal evidence pointed strongly to this unpalatable truth and hinted that recovered DNA would corroborate it... She said there was very strong evidence that the first migration came from Australia via Japan and Polynesia and down the Pacific Coast of America. Skulls of a people with distinctively long and narrow heads discovered in Mexico and California predated by several thousand years the more rounded features of the skulls of native Americans. One particularly well preserved skull of a long-face woman had been carbon dated to 12,700 years ago, whereas the oldest accurately dated native American skull was only about 9,000 years old... She said there were tales from Spanish missionaries of an isolated coastal community of long-face people in Baja California of a completely different race and rituals from other communities in America at the time. These last survivors were wiped out by diseases imported by the Spanish conquerors, Gonzalez said.

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KEYWORDS: americas; archaeology; australia; bering; clovis; dna; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; mtdna; multiregionalism; paleontology; preclovis; precolumbian; primates; replacement
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1 posted on 09/06/2004 8:04:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Our ancestors?

2 posted on 09/06/2004 8:07:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: SunkenCiv

But they were alllllll named "Bruce" and they weren't "poofters"! :)


3 posted on 09/06/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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for later


4 posted on 09/06/2004 8:10:27 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Oldest American skull found
by Jeordan Legon
December 4, 2002
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Because the remains were discovered outside the United States, scientists will be able to study the DNA and structure of the skeleton without the objection of Native American groups, who can claim and rebury ancestral remains under a 1990 U.S. law... The oldest skull in the Americas up to now, believed to be that of "Buhl Woman," was found in 1989 at a gravel quarry in Idaho. Scientists said it dates back 10,500 to 11,000 years. But researchers scarcely studied those bones before the Shoshone-Bannock tribe claimed and reburied them... Gonzalez and other scientists said they believe people may have arrived in America as much as 25,000 years ago. She points to evidence of camps -- man-made tools, a human footprint and huts dating back 25,000 years -- that have been found in Chile as evidence of man's imprint on the Americas long before mammoth hunters.
I got this link from someone on the PopSci forums (which are dreadful).
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5 posted on 09/06/2004 8:12:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: Texas Eagle; HawkeyeLonewolf; Aetius
Wow, you three are quick!
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

6 posted on 09/06/2004 8:14:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: SunkenCiv
Carbon dating is a flawed and inaccuracte system.

but oh well.

7 posted on 09/06/2004 8:16:43 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Kerry for a stronger America, through French hygiene practices.)
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To: AmericanCheeseFood
“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.”

“Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. And God saw the light, that [it was] good; and God divided the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.”

“Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament; and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.”

“Then God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry [land] appear"; and it was so. And God called the dry [land] Earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called Seas. And God saw that [it was] good. Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb [that] yields seed, [and] the fruit tree [that] yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed [is] in itself, on the earth"; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb [that] yields seed according to its kind, and the tree [that] yields fruit, whose seed [is] in itself according to its kind. And God saw that [it was] good. So the evening and the morning were the third day.”

“Then God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; "and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth"; and it was so. Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. [He made] the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that [it was] good. So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.”

“Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens." So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that [it was] good. And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.”

“Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, [each] according to its kind"; and it was so. And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that [it was] good.”

“Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." So God created man in His [own] image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."”

“And God said, "See, I have given you every herb [that] yields seed which [is] on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. "Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for food"; and it was so. Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed [it was] very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” (Genesis 1:1-31 NKJV)

Works for God, works for me...and it fits all the evidence too.

8 posted on 09/06/2004 8:29:58 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: SunkenCiv
skull of a long-face woman

An ancestor of Kerry's?

9 posted on 09/06/2004 8:31:44 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.......John Kerry suffers from delusions of adequacy........)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

You can quit spamming the whole of genesis.

You can simply say "I believe in genesis and god" and that would be sufficient.


10 posted on 09/06/2004 8:35:50 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Ah, when people don't like the truth, they call it "spamming". Sorry, but a valid reply in TWO threads does not constitute spamming.

And since the poster was uses science-fiction figures in terms of the age of the earth, it was a good idea for him to read it.

Police yourself, I don't need it.


11 posted on 09/06/2004 8:38:32 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: SunkenCiv
First Americans Were Australians
12 posted on 09/06/2004 8:42:57 AM PDT by blam
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Genesis is easily available on the net which we all know how to use. No need to post the whole thing.

A simple statement like "I believe in the story and fact of genesis" do.

Why don't you post Genesis as and article with a "must read" title.


13 posted on 09/06/2004 8:43:34 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
"Police yourself, I don't need it."

Start your own thread.

14 posted on 09/06/2004 8:45:07 AM PDT by blam
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To: staytrue
At least he's not incoherent as was fchristian
15 posted on 09/06/2004 8:46:20 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: blam
Thanks Blam. I was looking for "Luzia" on the hard drive, couldn't find it. Also, I've adjusted the keywords on that topic.
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16 posted on 09/06/2004 8:46:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
[singing] "Eeeee-manual Kant was a real..."
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

17 posted on 09/06/2004 8:47:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam
Start your own thread in the forum designed that topic.
18 posted on 09/06/2004 8:48:13 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: SunkenCiv
First Americans
19 posted on 09/06/2004 8:50:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; Aetius; AmericanCheeseFood; ASA Vet; blam; EggsAckley; ..
But hey, at least we're all gettin' along, right? (': NOT A PING LIST, merely posted to: 24Karet; 2Jedismom; 4ConservativeJustices; Aetius; AmericanCheeseFood; ASA Vet; blam; EggsAckley; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; HawkeyeLonewolf; staytrue; Texas Eagle
20 posted on 09/06/2004 8:50:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: ASA Vet
"At least he's not incoherent as was fchristian"

Yup. f.Christian made his last post on one of my threads and then went to Liberty Post and starting trashing me.

21 posted on 09/06/2004 8:52:47 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Got that one added also (it was already on the GGG list, but not much else).
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

22 posted on 09/06/2004 8:53:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam
I got an email invitation to Liberty Post (I think that's what it was) to do something like GGG over there. :') I figure an extra four, five hours a day should do it. ;')
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

23 posted on 09/06/2004 8:54:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: staytrue

I posted the creation account, not the whole book.


24 posted on 09/06/2004 9:22:48 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

Do you have to spam every thread with your nonsense?


25 posted on 09/06/2004 9:53:15 AM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: LPM1888
Do you have to spam every thread with your nonsense?

1. Nope... I've not spammed any threads, simply replied to two.

2. I haven't posted nonsense, but truth.

26 posted on 09/06/2004 12:19:02 PM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf (Christian First, American Second (Conservative Anti-Smoker))
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf
1. Nope... I've not spammed any threads, simply replied to two.

Your spam was intended to disrupt the thread.

2. I haven't posted nonsense, but truth.

You haven't posted any truth only myths and your opinion.

27 posted on 09/06/2004 3:26:41 PM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: SunkenCiv
Discovery? History Channel? did a show on this a few years ago..
Showed DNA traces of australian origin in two females in South America..

Also pictographs of the invasion of bering straits migration into south america, and the "termination" of the existing tribes of australian/american population..
I found this story very interesting, sort of a reverse "kon-tiki" sort of thing..

28 posted on 09/06/2004 9:46:44 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: blam
Thanks for the link...

This is the story I remember.. It was done for TV as well.. I thought it was History channel or Discovery.. ( BBC documentary )

The case for Australian "colonization" was well-made.
If Kon Tiki can make it going west, the Aussies could make it going east..

29 posted on 09/06/2004 9:58:17 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: blam

Guy went friggin' nuts on me when I made some comments about Buddhism. His freepmails got weirder everyday for 3 weeks....then...nothing. Weird.


30 posted on 09/07/2004 4:00:01 AM PDT by Khurkris (Proud Scottish/HillBilly - We perfected "The Art of the Grudge")
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