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Helike, ancient Greek city swallowed by the sea
Destruction of Helike ^ | October 17, 2000 | John Noble Wilford

Posted on 07/02/2005 9:06:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

In their reports, the researchers said these findings suggested that the pavement and wall stones were from the time of Helike's destruction and supported stories that the city ruins were for a long time submerged in the sea or a lagoon. The ruins were buried by silt, which, combined with a general uplifting of the land, had left the once-submerged site about half a mile inland from the present shore. A house built on the shore between the Selinous and Kerynites Rivers in the 1890's is now about 1,000 feet from the sea.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 373bc; ancientgreece; archaeology; bronzeage; catastrophism; dorakatsonopoulou; earthquake; earthquakes; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; gulfofcorinth; helike; history; patras; plato; quake; quakes; tsunami
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Here's a related story that is offline; there's no listing for AMNH.org on the excerpt / link only list:
The Road to Ancient Helike
by Henry S. F. Cooper Jr.
Museum astronomer Steven Soter, who also works as a geoarchaeologist (a scientist who uses geology to investigate archaeological sites) is codirector, with Greek archaeologist Dora Katsonopoulou, of the Helike Project, which sent a dozen scientists and students into the field this past August and September. On a coastal plain of the northern Peloponnese, near modern Eliki, the team unearthed what is almost certain evidence of ancient Helike, which sank beneath the gulf during a major earthquake in 373 B.C. Soter, a soft-spoken staff scientist in the Museum's Division of Physical Sciences-Astrophysics, got his doctorate in astronomy from Cornell University in 1971 and for fifteen years was on the staff of Cornell's Center for Radiophysics and Space Research. He worked as a research associate at the center with Thomas Gold, an astrophysicist who thinks that earthquakes are triggered by the release of gases that were incorporated into Earth during its formation and are now under enormous pressure from the overlying rock. Forcing their way up through cracks in the upper mantle, these gases can counteract the pressure that clamps Earth's tectonic plates together. The high-pressure gas reduces the friction across a fault, allowing the shearing forces in the rock to shift the plates sideways, sometimes catastrophically. From Gold's standpoint, it is a sudden decrease in fault strength, not a gradual increase in rock stress, that triggers an earthquake.


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1 posted on 07/02/2005 9:06:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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I really spent the week looking for excuses to get on FR and post stuff like this. But of course, the reason I had spare time to find this kind of thing on the hard drive was that I wasn't on FR.
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2 posted on 07/02/2005 9:07:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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3 posted on 07/02/2005 9:17:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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Not sure where I quoted this from, probably a Berlitz guide to Greece or something:
Kalymnos, an island in the Aegean just north of Kos, between Kos and Samos, has some nice beaches (it says here), and a coastline with plenty of coves, cliffs, and caves (just love those Berlitz alliterative descriptions). In 535 AD an earthquake split off what is now an islet called Telendos and in the process submerged an ancient town still visible under the water (attention divers!).
The Globe, Ancient Times, msg 719, May 21, 2000 20:15:29 EDT

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4 posted on 07/02/2005 9:37:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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Supposedly there are other submerged ancient towns at/on Alizea, Alonissos, Alonnisos, Elounda, Epidavros, Karpathos, Kefalos, Koftou, Kryonerii, Methoni, Pavlopetri, Plytra, Psathoura, and Stavros, to name a few.
5 posted on 07/02/2005 9:40:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: SunkenCiv

never heard of them.


6 posted on 07/02/2005 9:57:33 PM PDT by Coleus (God doesn't like moderates, Rev 3:15-16)
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To: SunkenCiv

Let's go check them out!


7 posted on 07/02/2005 9:59:23 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: SunkenCiv
Helike, ancient Greek city swallowed by the sea

I hope hedon'tlike when dog eats remote control.
8 posted on 07/02/2005 10:00:41 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Coleus

And three of them are the same place. ;')


9 posted on 07/02/2005 10:11:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: ValerieUSA

You mean these islands, right? ;')


10 posted on 07/02/2005 10:11:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: SunkenCiv

ummm yeah, sure


11 posted on 07/02/2005 10:22:24 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

Other than the whole "let's shoot foreigners" thing that goes on, which remains pretty low risk in Greece, I'd like to travel there, by ship, island to island, with nighttime access to broadband (to cache the numerous digital shots we'd take), and a ton of cash. Or maybe I'd settle for no travel, just a ton of cash. ;')


12 posted on 07/02/2005 10:35:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: SunkenCiv

a ton of cash without travel is not an option


13 posted on 07/02/2005 11:34:05 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

;')


14 posted on 07/03/2005 6:10:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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Kourion: The Monuments Of The City
Cytop Net | 1998 | staff
Posted on 12/25/2004 7:32:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1308481/posts


15 posted on 07/03/2005 6:12:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: ValerieUSA

I guess it depends -- if the ton of cash is in big bills... then lots and lots of travel... including a suborbital trip on Virgin Galactic or other vendor. :')


16 posted on 07/04/2005 7:21:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: SunkenCiv

send postcards! :)


17 posted on 07/04/2005 7:32:44 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

Did you see the Rutan segment on 60 Minutes last night (probably a rerun)? It was excellent. I loved how he badmouthed the gov't, and the newreel snip where Reagan was praised to his face by Rutan. Didn't seem like the usual SeeBS program.


18 posted on 07/04/2005 7:41:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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To: SunkenCiv

I missed it -- don't have cable TV, and Gabe (my son) took the antenna to his room ... that's the thanks I get for buying him a used $20 TV.
CBS aired that on a slow evening for TV viewership. I don't even know who Rutan is...... *ashamed*


19 posted on 07/04/2005 7:57:16 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA

I stumbled across it. Out here in the country, there is cable, but the parents never went for it. There are seven broadcast channels though, in some rooms of the house. ;')


20 posted on 07/04/2005 12:15:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ('Power corrupts and PowerPoint corrupts absolutely.' -- Vint Cerf)
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