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The Difference Between Fallen Angels, Demons, Aliens, Jedi, and the Watchers
The Watcher Files ^ | By Sherry Shriner

Posted on 05/12/2006 8:24:27 PM PDT by restornu

In these last days, the Bible says it will be a time of mass hybridization and the mixture and corruption of human DNA by fallen angels, also known as "Aliens."

The government is and has been, conditioning the existence of aliens through Hollywood, science fiction, cartoons, and other sources. However, they are not telling you the whole truth.

These Aliens are not ascended masters, or enlightened ones, or beings from galaxies millions of miles away, nor are they our forefathers or original creators. They are fallen angels who were kicked out of heaven for their rebellion against the headship of God, and they believe they have one last chance to try to usurp His authority. They know He is coming to the earth to destroy them once and for all, (Battle of Armageddon) and to gather those who are His and to establish His reign on earth.

The Lord has told me that in the coming days, these Aliens will make their presence more visibly and physically known on earth.

As the end times approach, the lies of extra terrestrial lineage, heritage, and creation will come out in full force.

Two Separate Rebellions in the Early Days

Most people are familiar with the rebellion of Satan wanting to be like God and wanting to be worshipped as God. For his sins of rebellion and pride, he lost his rulership over the planets he resided over and lost his place in heaven as a high ranking archangel.

What most people do not realize is that the rebellion of Satan's, leading 1/3 of the angels to try to usurp God's authority, and the rebellion of the Watchers are two separate events.

The Watcher's were not a part of Satan's rebellion; they created their own rebellion against God by deciding to leave their first estate which was heaven, and go to the earth to cohabitate with human women. Why doesn't the church ever address this issue? In fact, why did they try to cover it up by leaving Enoch out of the canon version of the Bible, and then manipulate the meaning "sons of God." They mistranslated Sons of God, (angels of God) creating some ridiculous theory suggesting it to mean Sons of Seth. People bought that explanation because they did not realize there was such a huge difference in changing that text around and it would keep them from the truth and allow the churches to cover it up.

Enoch was one of the greatest Prophets of God to have ever walked the Earth. In his lifetime he wrote 365 books. We have one of them. Where are the others? Are they lost or being kept hidden? It is in Enoch where we first learn about the rebellion of the Watchers, the angels assigned to watch over and guard over the earth

In Enoch

Chapter 6:1 it says..

1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.

2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men

3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them:

Enoch then continues to discuss a deal he makes with fellow Watchers to all commit the same sin.

In verse 7, it says that there were 200 chiefs on the summit of Mount Hermon, which is located on the border of Lebanon and Syria and stands over 9,000 feet high. They agreed to come to earth and cohabitate with women.

These 200 chiefs were each in charge of tens of thousands of other Watchers. So how many fell with them.We do not know, maybe they all did. That would put the number into the hundreds of thousands that fell from heaven and came to earth.

Chapter 7

1 And all the others together with them (this indicates their armies did follow them) took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms

2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they

3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed

4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against

5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and

6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood (cannibalism). Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

Chapter 8

1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all

2 colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they

3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven .

Chapter 9

1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being

2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryings up to the gates of heaven.

3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause

4 before the Most High. And they said to the Lord of the ages: Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the

5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all

6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which

7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the

9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have

10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are

11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.

Chapter 10

1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech

2 and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come

3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape

The following verses and chapters talk about their judgment and confinement, then in chapter 15 Yahweh speaks to Enoch directly, who the Watchers had approached to intercede for them on their behalf ..

Chapter 15

1 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous

2 man and scribe of righteousness: approach hither and hear my voice. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men for you: Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children

4 of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die

5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget

6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly

7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

Demons..

8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon

9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin;

10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.]

11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless

12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.

These are the demons we deal with, that most confuse as aliens. The demons roam the earth and torment mankind, causing them to sin and everything else.

These passages describe the first Watchers rebellion against the Lord. They came to earth, impregnated human women, and produced giant offspring. God then destroyed the world with a Flood to get rid of them. But it did not stop the rebellions. Genesis 6:4 states that even after the flood some of the Watchers continued to rebel against God and come to earth. At the time Israel left Egypt, they had to conquer some 20 cities of the Watchers giant children to reclaim the land of Israel as their own. The Watchers were known as the Annunaki, or the heroes of old, men of renown as mentioned in Genesis 6:4.

In Genesis, Chapter 6, from the Jewish translation of the Torah it says:

“When men began to increase on earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughters of men were and they took wives from among those that pleased them....It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth - when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes of old, the men of renown."

In the Sumerian language, the term Annunaki meant "from heaven who came to earth"

Fallen Angels

The Bible is full of accounts of Israel dealing with hybrids. Genesis 6:4 says, "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that." They are also referred to as Rephaim, Annunaki (sons of Annuk), Emim, Zamzummim, "also after that" is referring to the Nephilim who were again found in the land of Canaan Numbers: 13:33, "And there we saw giants, the sons of Annak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, so we were in their sight." The word Nephilim means "violent" "causing to fall" "wonder" "prodigies" or "monsters"

When fallen angels shape-shift into a human form, they can have intercourse but not without some aberrant genetic changes. The union of these beasts with humans produced children that were different in many ways. The first apparent difference was that they developed giantism. They were giants or Nephilim. Og, the King of Bashan, had a bed that was 13 to 15 feet long; and Goliath was 6 cubits tall (9 feet). The second aberration was that they had six fingers and six toes.

The aberrant genetic defects of the Nephilim were unfortunately cloned into the DNA of mankind. These dormant genetic tendencies still surface today at times in different people; however, most of the noticeable DNA defects have been perfected over the centuries to where hybrids can easily be born into a society that never suspects them of being other than completely human. The Watchers are a guardian class of angels that were assigned to watch over the earth and protect mankind from just this sort of thing happening. The offspring giants never went out of existence; they just went "underground" to return later, which is now, during these last days.

According to the Bible, the Book of Enoch, Jubilees, Jasher, and Testimony of the Twelve Patriarchs, they rebelled against God and attempted to enslave the whole world and provoke God. According to the Book of Jasher, they not only tweaked with the D.N.A. of mankind but also with the animals. They may have produced such beasts as the Pegasus, Minotaur, the unicorn, and the dinosaurs.

In the past, scholars speculated that one day it would be hybridization which would create the antichrist and that these fallen angel-Aliens would develop and produce a creature that is fully fallen angel and fully man. A bastard angelic incarnation.

The antichrist will be Satan's seed--a Nephilim. See Genesis 3:15, Genesis 6:4, and Revelation 13. This will probably include cloning and a hybrid or of the serpent seed illuminati-bloodline.

All along, the abductions of humans breeding experiments was to perfect the ultimate breed, half man, half alien to produce Satan incarnate in man. And they have it now, and they have Mabus waiting for his cue to descend to earth.

There are those who believed all the giant offspring and offspring of the fallen angels were destroyed during the flood. Not true. The Philistines were hybrids, giants i.e. Goliath. As were most of the races that Joshua and Israel had to conquer once Israel was freed from Egypt.

The Bible states that in the end times it will be just like the days of Noah. (Matthew 24:37-38, Luke 17:26) Also we believe that in Genesis 6:2 that the sons of God were fallen angels. We believe this from Job 1:6, II Peter 2:4-5, Jude 1:6 (Very important verse, "did not keep their own domain"), I Peter 3:18-20 and Revelation 9:1-12.

In the days of Noah, the fallen angels were mixing/breeding with the daughters of men (such as what the greys are doing now to humans, read about the Dulce Base). We have many hybrids in our midst, most notably the rise of "star" children who have "special" skills and talents highlighted in the movie X2 Men, released in 2003.

The mixing of genes which started with Cain's daughters, the women of Cainan, created a DNA defect called giantism. Their children were giants. Some were 30 feet tall. Demons are the spirits of the dead Nephilim (I'll just refer to Nephilim as a collective term to include all the races of the Annunaki offspring). Jedi, refers to all of the fallen angels who have ever rebelled against the Lord and were cast out of heaven. A collective term for Lucifer, his forces, and the Watchers-Annunaki.

The Bible Codes confirm that the Annunaki, had offspring called the Nephilim that were giants. The Annunaki are the Watchers. There are two different Factions within the Annunaki: the Enki and the Enlil. The draconians infiltrated and inbred within both groups of the Annunaki. The Draconians are red dragons, the same as Lucifer is.

There are groups of fallen angels competing for global dominance and control within the Third Faction of the New World Order.

These are the games they play. One group plays as good shepherds claiming to want to help mankind while they kidnap, mutilate, implant, impregnate, and use human body parts as a skin rejuvenation and coloring maintenance technique.

The other faction plays as protectors and basic non-interventionists, the good cop/bad cop strategy. We all know that when someone says they aren't in your business that that is exactly what they are into. Both of these factions seek to destroy and dominate earth, setting up the path and reign of Satan, also known as the Antichrist. Of course, they will not tell you who he really is, he will play the role of Ascended Master, Wise one, Great Teacher, Peacemaker, Messiah, a great world leader, or whatever else they can sell to a gullible population of earthlings.

There are two factions or groups within the Annunaki, known as the Enki and the Enlil.

The Enki faction of the Anunnaki

Includes but not limited to:

• Greys from Zeta Reticulum (small greys with the oversized heads who like to mutilate and experiment on humans), also includes Tall Greys (from Orion),

• Reptilians (Earth based), Lizards. These are notably in charge of establishing a one world government through our political leaders. Shape-shift into human form and also use humans as hosts to possess and work through.

• Draco-Reptilians from Orion, the ones really running the show while the others do their bidding. It is the Dracos who are the rulers over the greys and the reptilians. (There are some who believe the Nordic humanoids are Reptilians in disguise). The draco's are shape-shifters, they are annunaki - lizard, they are the ones coming on Planet X (Rahab). The Draconians are red dragons. Lucifer himself lost his once held beauty and was turned into an ugly red dragon. The Reptilians (lizards), greys, and others are all classes of what we call aliens, but were once beautiful angels.

• Annunaki - those who joined in Lucifer's rebellion against the Lord.

-and the Enki faction of the Anunnaki, also draconian, inhabitants of Rahab, (giant humanoids from their home planet Nibiru, a group of them stayed on earth while the others allegedly left to return sometime soon).

These are the ones who seek to harm and destroy mankind, and will do so, as they rule and dominant the earth with Satan and the New World Order.

The Enlil faction of the Anunnaki

The Enlil play a more protective role of Earth. They hate the Draconians and their ruler, Satan.

The Draconians are the archenemy of the Nordics. The Nordics hate them. They hate Satan, they hate the NWO. The coming planet X is more draconians/annunaki, shape-shifting lizards/humanoid Giants to help Satan dominate and rule the world during the tribulation period.

The Draconians are the dominant race of the (Enki), and the Nordics and other humanoid groups are the dominant races of the (Enlil).

What gets confusing is that humanoid races joined with the Dracos, so the humanoids are in both groups.

The Nordics and other humanoid races are largely very human in appearance, approximately 7-8 feet tall, blonde hair, blue eyes (Aryans). Hitler referred to them as "the master race." Ever wonder why Hitler was so obsessed with a master race of Aryans when he was Jewish?

The Nordics and other human looking alien races were also at one time beautiful angels. Although they did not lose their good looks and forced to look like the ugly beings of Lucifer and his angels were, they were cast out of heaven, nonetheless, and lost the qualities of being angels.

This Enlil faction includes the human looking groups, such as:

• Nordics (Lyra); Also live in an underground city underneath Mount Shasta. Human looking, tall blondes.

• Sirians (Sirius B); human looking

• Pleiedians, from the belt of Orion, human looking.

• Alpha Centaurians - human looking

• Venusians - human looking

The ancient Sumerians had their ancient culture saturated with the Annunaki. The name Sumerian means, "who from heaven came." The Sumerians and the Egyptians were both Alien-hybrid races.

The Bible says Lucifer resides in the first and second heavens (space); that is where he resides, and not in hell, as many believe. Satan has dominion over the first and second heavens but not over all the alien races, only those who rebelled with him specifically and not those who rebelled later.

He rules from Orion and is a winged Draconian. He is not omniscient, or omnipresent, thus he needs his minions to cover a lot of territory on the earth to keep up with what is going on in what we call reconnaissance and spying. Are UFO's real? Yes, they have vehicles to travel in, but these are not Aliens from galaxies in other universes, but from our own solar system and own outer space.

As in the days of Noah, so shall the last days be. Although the humanoid races tend to stay out of earth affairs and tend to uphold a neutral stand and just watch everything, the Luciferian groups of aliens (greys, reptilians) will run rampant on the earth, and are doing so already.

But we have not seen anything yet like we are going to in the near future.

They have perfected DNA manipulation and can look human while being hybrid/demon/aliens, (such as "star children" hybrids) with the ability to shape-shift into their original form and then back into a human form. No, this is not science fiction or Saturday morning cartoon central.

This is real! Fiction, Cartoons, X-Files, this was/ is just conditioning to get you and your children used to seeing these things happen and to just accept it when it starts to happen more in the future, exposing it instead of keeping it behind closed doors.

If you want to know what is going on, sometimes the best information is in the tabloids disguised as fiction or in Hollywood movies, where they often reveal plans and agendas disguised as entertainment. One of the more notable quotes I've never forgotten was one of the last lines in a movie I watched last year from XMen 2 in which one of the hybrids says, "We've been playing by your rules long enough. Now, maybe, it's time you started to play by ours"

Phil Schneider a civil engineer contracted to build secret underground facilities for clandestine organizations (the ones dealing with these "aliens" and signing treaties with them), described the evidence he encountered that ETs would be the true rulers of a one world government, and was a reason why he and many others left the 'service' of US based clandestine organizations. Schneider was killed in what appears to be a naval assassination hit.

In fact, whenever you start to talk about or expose the government's involvement with aliens, their treaties with them or their plans, you become a target, just as Bill Cooper, former navy intelligence officer, who wrote "Behold a Pale Horse." He was gunned down in a stand off with Sheriff Deputies at his home last year.

Many have tried to wake up and warn the public about the aliens in our midst, I encourage you to read The Dulce Base book on my website at thewatcherfiles.com. It is all there. You can read all of it right from the website. Also, the Cosmic Conflict series that is on the website has great insight and information concerning what the government keeps from the public.

The Veil is being lifted, and the time will come when men will reject sound doctrine and accept doctrine of devils; (aliens) through false prophets (todays pastors). The time is coming when we will see with through the spiritual realm and those in it. Fallen Angel Hybrids and Reptilian Draconians Masquerading as Ascended Masters, our Creators, and Beings of Light; they will deceive the world and prepare the heralding of their master...the Antichrist.

They were here before, and They will come back again

According to the prophecy of Daniel, they will do it again in the 4th and final kingdom of the beast. "They will mingle with the seed of men." Daniel 2: 43. It is this UFO phenomena, once revealed, that could be the trigger of the falling away (apostasy) of the church as predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The Bible warns that because the 'world' rejects the truth of the Bible that God "will send them a strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they may all be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

I believe the coming delusion or 'lie' is coming right from the UFO/New Age phenomena. The UFO cults say that the aliens are the Elohim, that they are our "God" (gods) that they are our forefathers and they created us and are returning to help us restore peace on the earth, -This is THE LIE this is also the driving force behind the New World Order that they're not telling you about!

The truth is, an alien or demonic invasion isn't coming..it's already here

For some reason most of church believes the Nephilim race was destroyed by the flood..then where did Goliath come from? The Amalek, the Kenites, all the 18 hybrid cities Joshua destroyed to reclaim the land of Israel? They didn't go anywhere, except maybe underground..to perfect dna mixing..to come out again in the last days undetected.

They have perfected the giant gene defect. In fact, now they can shop in our stores, sit next to us on a bus, and most wouldn't know any different. They look human..but they are not. They are the tares sown into the wheat.

The church has been silent about UFOs and abductions. About hybridization, fetus thefts, the impregnation of women by these beings.

Now that they've assimilated into our population as star children, politicians and civilians, who can detect them?


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1 posted on 05/12/2006 8:24:30 PM PDT by restornu
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Gad!


2 posted on 05/12/2006 8:32:33 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: restornu

You know compared to this women, the rest are very sane.


3 posted on 05/12/2006 8:41:00 PM PDT by Daralundy
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Ancient Aliens


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4 posted on 05/12/2006 8:42:20 PM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: shibumi
"The Walken Dude" ping.


5 posted on 05/12/2006 8:52:24 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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Planet X Video's


6 posted on 05/12/2006 8:58:33 PM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

Wow! I must have gone to bed already and not known it. This would be a nightmare.


8 posted on 05/12/2006 9:17:03 PM PDT by queenkathy (I can't think of anything for a tagline)
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To: restornu

At first I thought this might be a deluded Christian. But towards the end it sounded like World of Warcraft or something like that. I'm guessing(hoping) this is a satire. I'll check right now.


9 posted on 05/12/2006 9:33:52 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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It isn't. I'm scared now.


10 posted on 05/12/2006 9:35:01 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: restornu

11 posted on 05/12/2006 9:43:50 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: restornu

I knew Bill Clinton was a reptile all the time. Didn't fool me one bit!


12 posted on 05/12/2006 9:47:53 PM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: restornu

Someone should throw Elvis clones in there somewhere.


13 posted on 05/12/2006 9:56:33 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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"Wow! I must have gone to bed already"

ROFLOL! How do we catagorize the keebler elves?


14 posted on 05/12/2006 10:07:21 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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Whoa!! Someone forgot to take their meds.


15 posted on 05/12/2006 10:53:03 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (I can neither confirm nor deny the possibility that the truth is out there!)
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16 posted on 05/12/2006 11:05:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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17 posted on 05/12/2006 11:06:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Domestic Church

18 posted on 05/12/2006 11:07:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin


A dyslexic trip thinking he's dog.
19 posted on 05/12/2006 11:11:18 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: BenLurkin
*Snort*

I love the look in the "Mom's" eyes! I glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I saw that, or my keyboard would have shorted out!
20 posted on 05/12/2006 11:19:18 PM PDT by ScubieNuc (I can neither confirm nor deny the possibility that the truth is out there!)
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To: sully777
Doesn't look too bad . . .

Meanwhile . . .

21 posted on 05/12/2006 11:19:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: queenkathy

22 posted on 05/12/2006 11:20:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Salamander
Since seeing the "Prophecy" movies angels scare me. If they're real why should they have any benevolence toward we far frailer beings who hold the treasure of free will that they were denied?

If angels are to be believed then demons must be considered. It's especially disturbing that most of these concepts preceded Christianity (Zoroastrianism, etc.).
23 posted on 05/12/2006 11:23:49 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Sticks and stones may break their bones but nasty names decompose spinal columns.)
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To: restornu

24 posted on 05/12/2006 11:30:34 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: BenLurkin
Since we're on a religious freak out...


Salvador Dali's The Temptation of Saint Anthony
25 posted on 05/12/2006 11:48:03 PM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: ScubieNuc
>"Whoa!! Someone forgot to take their meds.">

Or maybe they took someone elses too!

26 posted on 05/13/2006 12:09:05 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
...and I don't especially like the Keyword list either.

Let's not give GREYS a bad name. (See my screen name).

Cheers!

27 posted on 05/13/2006 1:09:26 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Well, *anything* played by Chris Walken later just scares me on general principle.....:D

The bright side is that the *good* angels who did not rebel understand and accept God's will for us and "watch over us".


I absolutely believe in demons.

Years ago I read a couple of books on comparative mythology [one of which was "Angels, Aliens & Demons" and the other was called "Men In Black", if memory serves.

Both books focused on the possibility that *all* world culture's mythologies of devils, fairies, elves, etc. were based on the actual existence of demons.
Demons are/were smart to to "shapeshift" to fit any given particular culture's mythological bent and technological progress.

For us, they appear as 'wise and powerful aliens' from other planets.
For the Irish, they were fairy of the Sidhes...to the Indians, they were great spirits...and so on and so forth.

If that's what they're doing, it's brilliantly evil, really.

But then we have this;

Do not neglect to show hospitality
to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Hebrews 13:2

I'm sure I'm not the only person who's ever had a seemingly random "stranger" do something spectacularly kind or generous for no *apparent* reason...a stranger who made us feel awed or peculiar in their presence.

Makes ya wonder....






28 posted on 05/13/2006 1:38:59 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: sully777

*Never* eat any little brown mushrooms.


29 posted on 05/13/2006 1:40:23 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: BenLurkin

http://besmirched.tripod.com/eyes.html


30 posted on 05/13/2006 1:51:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

>>I'm sure I'm not the only person who's ever had a seemingly random "stranger" do something spectacularly kind or generous for no *apparent* reason...a stranger who made us feel awed or peculiar in their presence.<<

Occam's Razor: Don't look for a complicated, implausible reason when a simple, rational one will do.

Maybe you simply met a benevolent person who merely felt like doing something nice. No need to invoke the Supernatural.


31 posted on 05/13/2006 3:45:47 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
You are correct of course but . . .


. . . there are times I can't help but think that Mrs. Lurkin is an angel assigned to my pathetic case.

No mortal being could have put up with me for the last 20 years!
32 posted on 05/13/2006 6:15:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: alexander_busek

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

W. Shakespeare


33 posted on 05/13/2006 6:23:00 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander; BenLurkin; ScubieNuc; genefromjersey; sionnsar; Sensei Ern; JockoManning; ...
Ping...

'Tis the oddest thread to be sure
Rastafarian yet demure




"JABBERWOCKY"


'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


"Beware the jabberwock, my son.
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the jubjub bird, and shun


He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.


And as in uffish thought he stood,
The jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!


One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.


"And has thou slain the jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.


'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.


Alice Through The Looking Glass

34 posted on 05/13/2006 7:48:37 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: sully777

I'll see your Jabberwocky and raise you one "Second Coming";


The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


35 posted on 05/13/2006 8:14:24 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: alexander_busek
"Maybe you simply met a benevolent person who merely felt like doing something nice."

True. Nonetheless, it's nice to be there when they do these things.

36 posted on 05/13/2006 10:01:03 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: grey_whiskers
"and I don't especially like the Keyword list either."

"Nancy Grace, Wendy Murphy" - lord have mercy!

37 posted on 05/13/2006 10:19:46 AM PDT by Enterprise (The MSM - Propaganda wing and news censorship division of the Democrat Party.)
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To: sully777

Can you imagine this poem set to music and performed ?

'Twas done ! It was a novelty song of the late 40's-early 50s-performed by somebody named Phil Harris.

It stayed on the charts for about 6 weeks, before fading into (blessed) obscurity...but every so often, the song will pop up in memory. AAARGH !!


38 posted on 05/13/2006 12:50:06 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: sully777

och, meh puir haid.


39 posted on 05/13/2006 7:23:48 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: BenLurkin

Sorry, but that pix you pinged me to came up broken on my old system. What was it? This is the silliest thread I've read in years!


40 posted on 05/13/2006 8:13:23 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: Domestic Church

It was just a silly picture.

This is a fun thread though.


41 posted on 05/13/2006 8:29:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: sully777

42 posted on 05/13/2006 8:37:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: restornu

Don't think I agree with every word and point.

But, he knows a lot that many other sources have confirmed one way or another.

We shall see how much ends up being true by the end of Armageddon.


43 posted on 05/13/2006 9:28:54 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: restornu

INTREP


44 posted on 05/13/2006 9:38:04 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: queenkathy

The human mutilations--like the cattle mutilations in evidently virtually every respect . . . wherein the individual is alive and conscious as long as works out that way . . . I guess until too much blood has been drained . . . one or both eyes taken . . . half a jaw . . . pelvic area . . . laser cauterized incisions reportedly between cells . . . supposedly tricky to do . . . one of a number of nightmares evidently available in such spheres.

Preventing abduction is evidently possible through instantaneous anger expressed vividly at first hint . . . and/or praying in tongues with similar angry energy.

Linda Moulton Howe's earthfiles.com site is a good site for quality researched info.

She's one of the sources who refuses to say what super horrors await the world in 2012 though she clearly knows, as far as I could tell from our chat with her about it.

There's plenty hokey stuff in the field. Plenty disinformation. But whatever percentage that eventually filters out as true will be more than plenty strange. And, related to what the Bible calls THE GREAT DECEPTION of the END TIMES era, imho.

I don't encourage mocking. That sort of thing in this and many other areas of life can have a very persistent habit of biting one in the buns. But, it's certainly an area of life which attracts a lot of mocking. I think it must have to do with folks unease about the topic. Whether one claims to want such things to be true--not alone in the universe etc . . . or one is very averse to such things being true . . . it's easier to sleep or pretend it has no chance of being true if one can feel they successfully mock it. imho.

Time will tell.


45 posted on 05/13/2006 9:41:28 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: onja

No. It's not satire.

I think he goes overboard in terms of what he seems certain of. But who am I to say. I don't know how authentic his relationship with God is. I don't know what God may really have said to him. But I'm skeptical of a few things. A lot of it is pretty standard fare for anyone who's researched the topic much over several decades.

There's certainly too much intense smoke and too many quality sources for there to be absolutely nothing strange going on in this topic area.

And, there have been FREEPERS who have affirmed to me privately their own awarenessof such things from their own highly classified work.


46 posted on 05/13/2006 9:45:03 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: Salamander

Nice to see even tempered wisdom on such a thread!

Thanks.


47 posted on 05/13/2006 9:50:19 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: JockoManning

Oh drat.

Does this mean I've gone and blown my whole "wild-eyed maniac" cover with one relatively sane post?.....;D


[seriously though, you're welcome]


48 posted on 05/13/2006 10:05:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: restornu

"We Watchers do not believe in silly things like space aliens. Vampires are another matter, entirely."

49 posted on 05/13/2006 10:13:24 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: restornu

"Buffy, you must destroy Joseph Smith. It's the only way to keep the Nephilim from pouring through the Hellmouth and destroying Salt Lake City." ;)

50 posted on 05/13/2006 10:16:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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