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Posted on 03/19/2009 6:27:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003
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# Only 53% of adults know how long it takes for the Earth to revolve around the Sun. # Only 59% of adults know that the earliest humans and dinosaurs did not live at the same time. # Only 47% of adults can roughly approximate the percent of the Earth's surface that is covered with water.* # Only 21% of adults answered all three questions correctly
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Such as?
If I may answer, the question regarding dinosaurs is subjective. Since the question does not clarify itself, one must answer based on their subjective impression on what "dinosaur" means. If one understands "dinosaur" to mean "the superorder of bird-hipped, possibly warm-blooded reptiles that went extinct around the K-T boundary," then of course man and dinosaurs did not live at the same time. But if one understands "dinosaur" to mean "the clade containing the common ancestor of sauropods and theropods, and all their descendants," then of course man and dinosaurs coexist.
I don't know whether the wording in the questions was the same as the wording in the articles, but it's unclear whether the word "earliest" in "earliest humans and dinosaurs" applies to both humans and dinosaurs or just humans. The earliest humans did coexist with members of the dinosaur clade, but they did not coexist with the earliest members of the dinosaur clade.
Since the poll was conducted by a polling organization, and not hard scientists or students, I doubt any of the subjects polled could have gotten clarification on these issues before answering.
The answer you're looking for is 365.24 days, which explains why we have a leap year every four years. Notice, however, that the fraction is just shy of a quarter, so that every 400 years we have a non-leapt leap year: i.e. the year 2400 will not be a leap year. Of course, if you remember all the way back to eight years ago, you should recall that 2000 was indeed a leap year, what gives? What gives is that every exception has it's own exception. The three rules for leap years can be summarized as follows:
1: if a year is divisible by 4 it is a leap year
2: unless it is also divisible by 400, in which case it isn't
3: unless it is also divisible by 2000, in which case it is.
What could be simpler? Well what could be simpler is just to say that the earth revolves around the sun once ever solar year, which is by definition the time it takes for the earth to revolve around the sun. Expressed in terms of days this is of course an irrational number, necessitating the whole leap year business.
Why are these ghetto teams even associated with an institute of learning much less one of higher learning.
I believe the term you are looking for is "understand evolution." Whether that lack of understanding rates as "stupid" is a separate analysis.
"I know you are but what am I?" isn't a really resounding response.
I gently suggest you may want to post your understanding of as Scientific Theory, so that from there we may have polite discourse.
If you do not know, then I can supply many links to define this. If you do, then I await your response.
I think the answer they were looking for was "a year" but maybe I have over-analyzed the question. You answer is clearly the proper one.
And incremental totalitarian rule. Americans have been carefully taught to expect something for nothing: "Come into my parlor" said the spider to the fly.
““know” is a pretty strong word. Are you so old as to have witnessed this? If not, you might want to rethink your position.”
No, of course, I refer to the biblical record. Mankind and all mammals were made the 6th day. Consequently we inhabited this planet together, at least for a time.
>>No, of course, I refer to the biblical record. Mankind and all mammals were made the 6th day. Consequently we inhabited this planet together, at least for a time.<<
Just checking here — you believe the Universe is apx 6-7 thousand years old, per Genesis (I), Numbers, etc.?
I will hold off on the questions of how cold-blooded Dinosaurs could have cohabited with Mammals and yet left such different fossil signatures until I understand your perspective.
I am pretty sure "begging the question" doesn't mean what you think it does. The issue at hand may RAISE a question, but, unless it provides its own answer within the question, it probably does not "beg" the question.
Forensics: It isn't just for Quincy.
Yes, I believe the Universe is apx 6-7000 years old.
Cold blooded reptiles coexist with warm blooded mammals today. I don’t see why reptiles and mammals can’t live on the same planet.
>>Yes, I believe the Universe is apx 6-7000 years old.<<
Interesting. Just out of curiosity, how do you explain the red shift? Just looking for closure.
>>Cold blooded reptiles coexist with warm blooded mammals today. I don’t see why reptiles and mammals can’t live on the same planet.<<
So the fact that there have never been found Homo Sapien and, for example, Tyrannosaurus Rex bones within the same strata is just a chance non-occurrence? If, as you suggest, Humans and Dinosaurs existed together we should find contemporary remains, right?
In re: red shift, I believe that God created things in mature states. For instance, if Adam had cut down a tree the first few days, there would have been rings. Even though the tree had been standing there “full grown.”
Think about Jesus turning the water into wine in Galilee.
How do we turn water into wine? We pour it near a grapevine, the water wicks up the stem, goes into the grapes, they ripen, we harvest, we crush, we filter, we store for years or what have you (pardon me if I leave out a step or two, I have never made wine). At the end we have a delicious product that is the fruit of perhaps many years’ work.
Jesus did it instantaneously. But if you have put a drop of His wine on a microscope slide, it probably would have looked just like a nice wine made the traditional way.
Normally, light travels at a certain speed. But God isn’t under any compulsion to do things normally.
As for no human fossils being found next to dinosaur fossils, if you say so, I’ll take you at your word. I have mentioned the Paluxy River Bed in previous posts. But, I have been informed that the human fossil footprints next to the dino tracks there are suspect in some way. I don’t know.
But I ask you, because I don’t know the answer, what types of fossils ARE found near dino fossils? Is there a large variety, or just a few things? Is the mere absence of human fossils next to dino fossils proof that men never lived on this earth at the same time as they?
>>In re: red shift, I believe that God created things in mature states. For instance, if Adam had cut down a tree the first few days, there would have been rings. Even though the tree had been standing there “full grown.”<<
So the billions of miles observed from the red shift predate the beginning of the Universe?
>>Think about Jesus turning the water into wine in Galilee.
How do we turn water into wine? We pour it near a grapevine, the water wicks up the stem, goes into the grapes, they ripen, we harvest, we crush, we filter, we store for years or what have you (pardon me if I leave out a step or two, I have never made wine). At the end we have a delicious product that is the fruit of perhaps many years’ work.
Jesus did it instantaneously. But if you have put a drop of His wine on a microscope slide, it probably would have looked just like a nice wine made the traditional way.
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So God created fossils and strata miraculously for some reason only He can understand? He created an entire fake physically consistent history spanning billions of years? To what end was this done?
Yes, there have been miracles. But they tend to be individual events and not broad brush.
>>Normally, light travels at a certain speed. But God isn’t under any compulsion to do things normally.<<
Certainly. I ask again, to what end would God create a consistent physical Universe that can be measured and evaluated, cross-checked and consistency checked?
And do you also think that God just makes physics work on His whim? Chemical reactions depend on His beneficence?
Why would God deceive us so?
>>As for no human fossils being found next to dinosaur fossils, if you say so, I’ll take you at your word. I have mentioned the Paluxy River Bed in previous posts. But, I have been informed that the human fossil footprints next to the dino tracks there are suspect in some way. I don’t know.<<
Yes, you don’t.
>>But I ask you, because I don’t know the answer, what types of fossils ARE found near dino fossils? Is there a large variety, or just a few things? Is the mere absence of human fossils next to dino fossils proof that men never lived on this earth at the same time as they?<<
Yes, it is proof of that.
The water coverage is also weasely. After all, Greenland and Antartica are both almost covered with water, though it often is ignored in these answers. Solid water, but water none the less.
Also, ALL water is "fresh"; just most of it is contaminated with disolved pollutants, most notably NaCl...but that is not part of the water, and can as easily be filtered or otherwise removed as some of the crud routinely removed from "fresh water supplies" before distribution.
Mary Ann.
Bailey.
Not even up for debate.
(especially the Bailey issue)
As to the strata and so forth, I don’t think God made the earth this way in order to confuse us. I think the model of catastrophism is the best model - that the worldwide flood was responsible for a lot of the strata. This occurred after creation, of course. I don’t believe that God put dinosaur fossils several feet under Eden, just to confuse us. “For God is not the author of confusion. . .” 1Co 14:33
No, billions of miles observed from red shift don’t predate the beginning of the Universe. When God created the stars, he created them “with age,” like the mature trees. The light was visible at the time He created them. It didn’t have to travel billions of years first, while God waited. God doesn’t have to wait.
He created light, you know.
He created Adam a mature man. He did not start him as an ovum, get him fertilized and etc., the whole 20 years or what have you until maturity. He was a full grown man on the day he was created. Eve was a full grown woman. After that, though, His design of reproduction began, and we got Cain and Abel and so on through history. That is what is normal to us. But God is not constricted to what is normal.
“to what end would God create a consistent physical Universe that can be measured and evaluated, cross-checked and consistency checked?”
For His glory. God created a stable, checkable, explorable world. It reveals His incredible ability. Think of one thing. Think of the human eye. What a piece of work. How many mutations, all positive towards its current end, would need to occur to get that eyeball to its current state? Millions. But you would believe that, rather than believe a loving and sovereign God created it? I find the intelligent design of a great Creator to be a far smaller ‘leap of faith!’
One can be a successful and learned scientist and still believe God created this world and all that is in it in six days. Scientific exploration, then, reveals to us the amazing design and ingenuity of God, rather than chance mutations over billions of years. “The spacious heavens declare the glory of our God, and the firmament shows His handiwork. Day unto day utters speech, and night unto neight reveals knowledge.” (Psalm 19:2)
Physics and chemical reactions were designed by Him. I see no inconsistency between physical and chemical processes and six day creation. My son has a BS in Physics (UCLA) and is a six day creationist. He sees no contradiction, and uses his degree in his work on a daily basis in medical research.
If the absence of human fossils next to dino fossils proves that humans and dinos didn’t co exist, than the absence of snail fossils next to dino fossils proves that snails and dinos didn’t coexist, etc. There are an awful lot of species on this planet. I don’t think all of them have to lie fossilized next to dinos to prove that they existed at the same time. I would be interested to see, if it were available, a list of all the known species fossilized right near fossilized dino bones.
I would say that fossilized humans next to fossilized dinos would be scientific proof of their coexistence, however.
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