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Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT
London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals, according to a new study by British scientists.
Researchers at the John Radcliffe Institute of Molecular Medicine in Oxford were quoted by The Times as saying the so-called "ginger gene" which gives people red hair, fair skin and freckles could be up to 100 000 years old.
They claim that their discovery points to the gene having originated in Neanderthal man who lived in Europe for 200 000 years before Homo sapien settlers, the ancestors of modern man, arrived from Africa about 40 000 years ago.
Rosalind Harding, the research team leader, told The Times: "The gene is certainly older than 50 000 years and it could be as old as 100 000 years.
"An explanation is that it comes from Neanderthals." It is estimated that at least 10 percent of Scots have red hair and a further 40 percent carry the gene responsible, which could account for their once fearsome reputation as fighters.
Neanderthals have been characterised as migrant hunters and violent cannibals who probably ate most of their meat raw. They were taller and stockier than Homo sapiens, but with shorter limbs, bigger faces and noses, receding chins and low foreheads.
The two species overlapped for a period of time and the Oxford research appears to suggests that they must have successfully interbred for the "ginger gene" to survive. Neanderthals became extinct about 28 000 years ago, the last dying out in southern Spain and southwest France. - Sapa-DPA
Turns out I love Neaderthals.
So, the English are calling the Irish Neanderthals.
...make shure you confirm they are REAL redheads. :)
There's the rusty brown of silky auburn - very atractive.
And the brillo-ey neon orange - no so much...
I'll buy that.
I am a redhead of Scottish decent and I am not comfortable with the idea that a British scientist has attributed red hair to Neanderthals. It smacks of a slur, for some reason.
Well, I hunt and I like my meat rare and I have red hair and freckles (see nickname) but I'm totally drawing the line at cannibalism. I know what you people eat. There is no marinade or rub that's going to make you people "finger lickin' good".
Yep. Me too.
Only thing is the REAL Irish aren't red-headed and freckled. Ireland gets that from the viking invaders. Turns out the real Irish are the Black Irish: Dark featured, but still rather pale skin and rather short.
I myself like redheaded women...and auburn, jetblack, blonde, strawberry blonde, brown, and lately, since I'm married, a mix of grey and brown.
What is left out is that the Neanderthal on the average had a larger brain size that H. Sapien.
"That is sooooo condescending!" - Geico Caveman.
I agree, and I am also a redhead of scottish descent. Especially since the article says that the neanderthals apparently died out while in spain and southern france. Shouldn't there be a larger population a redheads in that region if so. The science in this article sound highly suspicious.
I don't mind redheaded girls, either... just as long as the collars and cuffs match.
No joke. I've known one or two red haired Neanderthals.
Oh, it's all real.
No wonder I feel so tired in the mornings! LOL Neaderthals, huh? I guess that's why I can't do math, either.
Heh heh heh...the real test....applies to blondes as well...
That explains Susan Sarandon.
True, they get the balck hair from the Spanish invaders.
I harkend back to Clan of the Cave Bear for a moment while reading that article. It occurred to me that there aren't a lot of blonde-haired blue-eyed Spaniards or French, either. Last time I checked, blonde was a by-product of red.
I think the British scientist was just trying to couch his Anglo-centrism in scientific jargon
Of course, it's not fair if the ladies cheat by switching from carpeting to parque flooring.
Let's blindfold me and some other guys for a game called "Find the Redhead!" Hmmm. FOX is filming nearby tomorrow. Maybe I should relay this idea to them?
If British Scientists are being paid to write gags, and if Gag writers earn their living by making aleged scientific discoveries; it explains a lot about the confusion we are experiencing deciding whether to laugh at science or fret over the content of jokes.
The "Black Irish" are sometimes attributed to shipwrecked Spanish invaders following the defeat of the Spanish armada in 1588. However, it appears that most of the survivors were imprisoned or killed if they landed on Irish shores. Additionally, many Spanish sailors were Galicians, and thus did not fit the swarthy stereotype of Spaniards. In fact, many of them would have resembled the fairer Celtic Irish. Furthermore, the general absence of Spanish surnames would indicate that there was little effect from the shipwrecked maritimer. Rather, the "Black Irish" reflect a much older population.
The Celtic invaders of the British Isles were generally fair haired and light eyed, and, while they brought their language and culture to Ireland, the Celts did not exterminate the inhabitants. Irish mythology generally pictures the heroes as fair complected, and in all likelihood, the aristocracy had that appearance. The Vikings and the Anglo-Normans brought into Ireland a large number of Scandinavian, English, northern French, and Flemish genes well before the Reformation. Names thought of as "typically" Irish like Doyle, Burke, and Clarke reflect Scandinavian, Norman French, and English origins.
The "real" Irish are a mixture of pre-Celtic, Celtic, and Germanic origins, as indeed are their British neighbors and, to some extent, the inhabitants of the Low Countries. They can be dark and almost Latin looking like Colin Farrell or Moira Kelly, redheads (Neanderthals?) like James Cagney or Maureen O'Hara, or blonde and almost Scandinavian looking like Peter O'Toole or Grace Kelly.
How did we go from Scottish to Irish in this post? I am always interested in my ancestry, since it is almost exclusively from the British Isles, including Ireland, but does anyone know more about Scots to input on this discussion? I would hate for it to be left to the Neanderthals at this point! LOL!
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, General Daniel Morgan, Alexander Hamilton, General Layfayette, And countless other Revolutionary War heroes and patriots were ALL REDHEADS.
Would explain Maureen Dowd.
Where are all the redheaded men out there? I know there have to be famous handsome men with red hair but I can't think of any
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