***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 22

Yes, I want him to say, "All your Baghdad are belong to us".

2,421 posted on 04/10/2003 7:51:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Victory in Iraq!)

To: SoldiersGirl

I would REALLY like a crib note...

I'm not sure what you mean.

2,422 posted on 04/10/2003 7:51:19 PM PDT by Consort

enormus underground city

Maybe that's where Saddam & Spawn are hiding with the Republican Guard "Elite"?

Would certainly explain the rag-tag warriors and the suicide bombers that Saddam has put fourth to engage the Coalition!

2,423 posted on 04/10/2003 7:51:32 PM PDT by Jackie-O ("WANKER" is my new term of endearment for the Antis!!)

the link you posted is what she meant

2,424 posted on 04/10/2003 7:52:04 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Victory in Iraq!)

For some reason having Saddam and/or his henchmen makes me wonder. Any possibility they make hook up together and try to unfree Iraq? Or at least really cause big trouble?

2,425 posted on 04/10/2003 7:52:10 PM PDT by crobnson

To: Fledermaus; oceanview

We need it for a lot of reasons.

And we'll get it eventually. Saying "never" is B.S. (imo).

2,426 posted on 04/10/2003 7:52:25 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")

To: SoldiersGirl

I rather like the directness of this letter (are you CLOSE friends?):

Easy to Protest (Great letter to the Editor)
The Witchita Eagle | March 9, 2003 | Danielle Stuewe

It is easy to say "Peace at any price" when you are not paying the price.

It is easy to criticize the president when you know he is not going to send soldiers to kick in your door and gang-rape every female inside, no matter how young; when you know you are not going to have to watch your children being tortured in ways that cannot be described in this newspaper.

It is easy to call the president evil when you know he is not going to have your tongue ripped out and have you stripped, manacled and fed alive to specially trained dogs.

Terrorists trained in the heart of Baghdad go to the Philippines, Israel and Europe to blow up civilians, but you live in New York, California and the Midwest.

The United Nations' Oil for Food Program would be better named the Oil for Palaces Program, because while the women and children starve, Saddam Hussein builds huge palaces. But you live in a free society with a McDonald's on every corner and an attorney right next door. You will have your day in court.

Say what you want, but unless you are willing to pay the price, I won't listen.

DANIELLE STUEWE
Wichita

2,427 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:04 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (The time is long overdue to stop taking the media, as well as the U.N., so seriously.-Thomas Sowell)

Oops, left out in Syria

2,428 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:17 PM PDT by crobnson

very well written article. maybe I can print it out and roll it up, shove it straight up...oh um er
I was gettin a little carried away here
this guy has me all fired up

2,429 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:25 PM PDT by SoldiersGirl (Land of the Free..because of the Brave)

Huh. I can't get that to work... (ALT key)

2,430 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:31 PM PDT by turbocat

This guy in FNC from Syria is pissin me off

"America has been taken over by conservatives who would like to see America to attack one country after another in a Zionist conquest"

2,431 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:39 PM PDT by ztiworoh

Oh, and as for rights, we are "endued by their creator with certain unalienable rights, Chief among them being Life, Liberty, and the persuit of happiness." The rest are not left clearly defined in scope or entitlement. I prefer as few limits as possible, but the constitution allows for the limits to be moved and shaped as the people deem neccesary. What most bothers me is the use of Executive Orders, and Slick Willie used those to govern almost exclusively.

2,432 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:43 PM PDT by Air Force Born

Greta van sustern ripping the deputy ambassador to syria:

Going after syria about night goggles, taking in ba'athists, support for hizbollah.

2,433 posted on 04/10/2003 7:53:59 PM PDT by rumrunner

It's a little cliquish and rude to tell people on the public forum they're sending or receiving private mail, and does not cultivate harmony.

2,434 posted on 04/10/2003 7:54:16 PM PDT by cyncooper (thousands of cheering Iraqis yelled, "America, America, America," and "Bush, Bush, Bush.")

To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All

(rant warning)
I need to say something. There is something that needs to be made completely clear.
The most important thing is TRUTH. We (I hope and pray) seek the truth. We seek the truth about the nature of man and the truth about the right ordering of man’s life. We seek the truth about the nature of the universe and our place in it. It is the truth that sets you free.
We value free speech because the free exchange of ideas is an invaluable tool in the pursuit of truth. The presentation of argument and counter-argument is a method for clearing away the fog of imperfect human vision and getting at the truth.
We value freedom of association because it is by our teaching one another and being taught that we correct and refine our vision of the truth. It is by free association that we counteract our individual errors.
We maintain that all men are created equal because the truth is not partial to race or sex or geographical accident.
We value individual freedom because in each of us pursuing our own ways we can poke and prod at reality, weedling the truth out of the vastness of the universe.
We know we are human and prone to error. We know we are human and hence not perfect. We may differ in our understanding of the truth, but as long as we all agree to present our differences in a calm and rational fashion we may go forward together in this journey of discovery. Freedom is the tool that allows us to proceed. Freedom is not primary, it is the means to an end and that end is the discovery of the truth.
There are those who believe there is no Truth with a capital “T”. There are those who believe that Power is primary and that what is purveyed as “truth” is only in service of and is only a function of, the exercise of POWER. They will not be able to understand at all our assertion that we are only saying and doing what we do because we believe it is right and true and just. They will accuse us of self-serving arguments and self-serving actions. They may, because of their allegiance to the exercise of power, see all statements and acts as guided only by selfishness and self-interest. That is the critical difference.
The Truth has nothing to fear from Freedom. Power has everything to fear from Truth unless it is the right-ordered exercise of power in the service of the Good, the Right, the Just, the Beautiful, the TRUTH.
I believe our efforts to free the people of Iraq do serve the truth that we love; the truth that men are best off agreeing among themselves on how they should live (by free association, by democracy and the rule of law.) I believe we can safely disagree about methods and details as long as we, and they, endeavor to serve the truth. I believe we can all co-exist in freedom and peace even though we believe in different religions as long as we both cling to the belief in the existence of truth. I believe that truth is not cultural, that loving your children and wanting to see them grow up healthy and strong and happy is not limited by language or skin color or local geography.
I implore the people of this new nation of Iraq and the people of this old nation of the United States to cling desperately and hopefully to the pursuit of truth. I pray that we all can make some little progress toward a world where we may truly live together in peace and prosperity. If you disagree with me in some particular or think I have misspoke or even lied, then, by all means, (and I do mean by ALL means) seek to discover where I have erred. If you believe that there is wrong being done or lies being spoken, ferret out the mistakes and trumpet them to the world. It is only Freedom that will allow you to do this and it is only a common commitment to the Truth that will allow your nation and our nation and all the nations of this world to move forward toward a planet where all our babies will be safe to grow up and laugh and play and learn and love in Peace.

(end of rant)
I apologize if I have wasted your time or bandwidth.
Have a nice day.

2,435 posted on 04/10/2003 7:54:31 PM PDT by aloysius89 (fascite magnopere aut iti domun)

To: An.American.Expatriate; All

Forged in the Fires of Patriotism

In the city of Volgograd [Stalingrad] is this awe inspiring statue that towers above the historic landscape...it is Russia's mirror of Americas's Statue of Liberty.
Stalingrad on the Volga was WW-2's "Killing Fields"...for Nazi Germany the price was 250,000 dead....90,000 prisoners..of whom only 3000+ ever returned home a near decade after the war from their hellish existence in Soviet Gulags.
Mamayev Kurgans shadow falls upon the ground of over a Million Russian deaths,military and civilian.
Russians fought bravely at Stalingrad....not for Stalin...but for Rodina...the Motherland.

Other nations have their Patriotic places...the theme of such vaulted aloud in battle cry and on the streets of home when trouble visits their lands...
But what kind of honorable symbol might we find if we were to pull aside the dark curtain of Islam....a nation encompassing much of the earth.
Where is their Statue of Liberty....Mother of Rodina?

Inquiring we find none to be seen....

In my mind..there is something exceedingly dark within the framework of this nation...one that fails to express courage and honor..themes which represent what is most noble concerning man.

When challegened to give an account for their corporate actions in history past and present ,the reply is a defensive roar...which leads to words of blame and guilt towards the one asking the question.
If we...that is the West..and add Israel too of late...had attacked this nation of Islam...if Islam had made some stand somewhere where multitudes fell for thier passion..would there not be some symbol of that for them to present the world..to remind us...a place for them to rally when their realm is threatened?

They actually might have one..and it would be in a place called Ein Jalut...where the Mamaluks defeated the Mongols and drove them from the lower mideast regions...but Ein Jalut will not emerge in the average Muslims mind if you asked..for they are hardly aware of their own history.

Looking at Islam....I see a great tragedy that has run for far too long...a history of being.....but lacking in Glory.

2,436 posted on 04/10/2003 7:54:59 PM PDT by Light Speed (Breaking news.....IRS issues Fatwa's on Evildoers)

He's doing some spinning... and squirming...

2,437 posted on 04/10/2003 7:55:06 PM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi... Saddam)

He'll be hiding with combover soon.

2,438 posted on 04/10/2003 7:55:06 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Victory in Iraq!)

To: SoldiersGirl

If anybody believes the Syrian Ambassador on Fox, I have some whitewater real-estate for sale.

2,439 posted on 04/10/2003 7:55:13 PM PDT by TheLion

To: SoldiersGirl

I would REALLY like a crib note, how to deal with a liberal book right now

Not that I wasn't serious before but perhaps I could be more practical. Think of the liberal as a child. A very small child. Depending on the liberal in question perhaps a small child with a severe learning disability. Speak in simple terms. When they become agitated be kindly patronizing with them. Let them know you care (that's all they really want) and give them what little truth they can handle in a sappy sing songy way so they feel (feeling is important to them) like you understand. (It's not important that you don't have a clue what their problem is.) Use very simple analogies.

2,440 posted on 04/10/2003 7:55:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (The Democrats are soooo 9/10)

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