Skip to comments.Where Did The Etruscans Come From?
Posted on 08/06/2005 9:08:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Nevertheless, after more than a century of research, the linguistic relationship between Lemnian and Etruscan -- despite the scanty material -- is nowadays established to a large extent as an undeniable fact. The phonemic systems can not be set to coincide completely, yet it is significant that apart from the already mentioned four vowel system parallels exist in the consonant inventory, too. There are two varieties of s (here written s and sh) and no indications of the voiced plosives b, d, g, while next to each other are to be found in both languages t and th (no aspirate sound like the Greek one, but rather pronounced like ty). Evident conformities exist in the vocabulary between Etruscan (ET, Ta 1.169:) avils machs shealchlsc (literally: "at (=-s) years at four and (=-c) at sixty"), and Lemnian mav shialchveis avis (literally: "four at (=-s) sixty at years"). The common translation, "at 64 years", is of course depending on the values assigned to the Etruscan numerals. In view of the extremely meagre vocabulary of the Lemnian language possible interpretations must rely almost completely on so far decoded Etruscan expressions. Yet, the interpretation of mav and mach is based additionally on the fact that in the (Indo-European) Anatolian language Luvian the word "four" is called maua.
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Where is Lemnia?
Ancient Mediterranean Lingual 'Incongruity'A Pelasgian stele on Lemnos proves anomalous only as a survival of Pelasgian writing, not as Etruscan-related in the Aegean before Classical Greek eradication of the Luvian-speaking remnant of Mycenaean culture. Etruscan tombs in Italy retained Mycenaean-style frescoes. Romans, whom urbane Etruscans largely civilized while ruling, retained much of Mycenaean-Etruscan culture, including sarcophagi and other funerary practices, purple-bordering of magistrates, horsemanship, political organization, soothsaying, lanterns, cisterns, taverns, and legends of a migration via Carthage after the fall of Troy.
I'm guessing either Tuscany or New Jersey.
The Lemnos SteleIt will be seen that the text contains no voiced plosives, but it does show a sries of unaspirated voiceless plosives and of aspirated voiceless plosives which is exactly what we find in Etruscan. Furthermore, only four vowels are attested: a, e, i and o. Etruscan also has only four vowels: a, e, i and u. If the Lemnian language is related to Etruscan, then clearly Lemnian o will correspond to Etruscan u. We do not know what sound z denoted in either language.
by Ray Brown
Etruscan Texts: Lemnian Steleshivai sialchveish avish marashm av
holaieshi naphoth shlashi vanacasial sheronai morinai <->c
evistho sheronaith aker tavarshio
shivai avish sialchvish marash <->m avish aomai
sheronaith evistho toveronarom haralio
shivai epteshio arai tish thoke
Will you still need me? Will you still feed me, when I'm 64?
I used to know where it is, but I got amlemnia.
It refers to the isle of Lemnos.
They came to Italy and occupied northern and partly central districts of the peninsula. Soon, due to overseas trading and contacts with higher civilizations of Phoenicians, Greeks and Egyptians, Etruscans acquired writing, invented their own alphabet and brought up their original culture, so unlike other cultures of that time Europe.
"finiculee finiculah finiculee finiculah..."
Not sure if it was used earlier than that, but it was the Etruscans that introduced it to Roman architecture..
Yet another example.
In Italian, young boy = ragazzo. In dialect - 'oochitla' (sp?)
Young girl = ragazza. In dialect - 'achitla' (sp?)
Upstairs = sopra. In dialect - 'ingup' (sp?)
Downstairs = sotto. In dialect - 'bal' (sp?)
But did the Etruscans have red hair?
".....unaspirated voiceless plosives and of aspirated voiceless plosives....."
Hey! They must be talking about you...'splosions an' all.
Even though it must be fun when your widgets do splode at work, I bet you voicelessly aspirate from time to time...I mean...as voicelessly as can be 'spected.
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