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Archaeology: The milk revolution
Nature ^ | 7-31-2013 | Andrew Curry

Posted on 08/02/2013 11:45:10 AM PDT by Renfield

In the 1970s, archaeologist Peter Bogucki was excavating a Stone Age site in the fertile plains of central Poland when he came across an assortment of odd artefacts. The people who had lived there around 7,000 years ago were among central Europe's first farmers, and they had left behind fragments of pottery dotted with tiny holes. It looked as though the coarse red clay had been baked while pierced with pieces of straw.

Looking back through the archaeological literature, Bogucki found other examples of ancient perforated pottery. “They were so unusual — people would almost always include them in publications,” says Bogucki, now at Princeton University in New Jersey. He had seen something similar at a friend's house that was used for straining cheese, so he speculated that the pottery might be connected with cheese-making. But he had no way to test his idea.

The mystery potsherds sat in storage until 2011, when Mélanie Roffet-Salque pulled them out and analysed fatty residues preserved in the clay. Roffet-Salque, a geochemist at the University of Bristol, UK, found signatures of abundant milk fats — evidence that the early farmers had used the pottery as sieves to separate fatty milk solids from liquid whey. That makes the Polish relics the oldest known evidence of cheese-making in the world...

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; History; Science
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; archaeology; auroch; aurochs; bosprimigenius; cattle; dairy; dietandcuisine; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neolithic
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I bet the rate of lactose intolerance has dropped like a stone in countries like Japan and S Korea since the end of WW2 and they began to develop (okay thats the 60's and 70's for S Korea)

Or are they putting something else in their cereal?

Want some Kuhn Po-ruh-soo-too?

Korean doesn't have an "f" sound.

21 posted on 08/02/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Sherman Logan

yet we all know they were historically largely dependent on milk for food.


fermented mares milk.......................


22 posted on 08/02/2013 2:46:52 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: GeronL
Probably.

I am firmly of the belief that our bodies turn on or turn off genes as our environment changes.

As to what do they pour on their cereal, I have known some people to use orange juice! :)

23 posted on 08/02/2013 3:00:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

My gag reflex is tingling

:p


24 posted on 08/02/2013 3:01:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

bump


25 posted on 08/02/2013 3:15:07 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Renfield; Defiant; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

Thanks Renfield. "The last aurochs died in Poland in 1627" it sez here -- remarkable, considering they were the basis for domesticated cattle and that event is prehistoric -- one long haul, and they almost made it to the present.

26 posted on 08/02/2013 5:40:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: bgill

The lactobacteria responsible for acidifying milk is naturally in the raw product. Acidified milk is not hospitable to the bad strains of bacteria that cause food born illness. Pasteurizing destroys the natural beneficial lactobacteria.

Raw milk need not be innoculated... it’s just a time issue. I have opened sealed and refrigerated bottles of raw milk 3 months past it’s “expiration date”... the cream on the top is literally sour cream. The skim milk is like buttermilk.


27 posted on 08/02/2013 5:49:35 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I used to know someone who was lactose intolerant and would put a can of fruit cocktail on his cold cereal.


28 posted on 08/02/2013 6:01:20 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: SunkenCiv

Fascinating stuff. I had no idea that cheese-making went back that far.


29 posted on 08/02/2013 6:02:23 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: Renfield

That is a very interesting map! Thanks. My ancestors all came from the British Isles and your map shows that is good for milk drinkers. I love milk, it is probably my favorite food.


30 posted on 08/02/2013 6:09:53 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Renfield; fulltlt; Moltke; RJS1950; Standing Wolf; Harmless Teddy Bear; chesley; bgill; ...

The big bang therory season finale: leonards lactose intolerance jokes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09QIVM_JunQ


31 posted on 08/02/2013 6:15:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Renfield

Interesting


32 posted on 08/02/2013 6:16:01 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Bigg Red

And it’s probably much older, this looks like mature technology.


33 posted on 08/02/2013 6:16:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s what it says in th article.


34 posted on 08/02/2013 6:55:46 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khách sang La Vang hanh huong tham vieng Maria)
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To: Renfield
So I guess it's true: Blessed are the cheesemakers.
35 posted on 08/02/2013 7:08:35 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: ThanhPhero

You expect me to actually read the article before commenting? :)


36 posted on 08/02/2013 7:19:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: Renfield

That is a really interesting map. Thanks for posting it.


37 posted on 08/02/2013 7:43:21 PM PDT by zeugma (Be a truechimer, not a falseticker!)
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To: Ditter

I hate milk; can’t stand the stuff. Even as a baby, I wouldn’t drink it. I’m not lactose intolerant, but for some reason, I’ve always associated the aroma of milk with nausea.


38 posted on 08/03/2013 4:05:07 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Mr Radical
Excellent post and my thoughts exactly. The orthodox view is that you are OOA or OOME. That's frozen archeology and nonthinking.
39 posted on 08/03/2013 4:48:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Renfield

Odd that a milk tolerance map would use white to indicate milk intolerance.


40 posted on 08/03/2013 5:15:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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