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Neandertals' Main Food Source Was Definitely Meat
EurekAlert! ^ | February 18, 2019 | Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology

Posted on 02/20/2019 10:17:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Neandertals' ...are traditionally considered carnivores and hunters of large mammals, but this hypothesis has recently been challenged by numerous pieces of evidence of plant consumption. Ancient diets are often reconstructed using nitrogen isotope ratios, a tracer of the trophic level, the position an organism occupies in a food chain. Neandertals are apparently occupying a high position in terrestrial food chains, exhibiting slightly higher ratios than carnivores (like hyenas, wolves or foxes) found at the same sites. It has been suggested that these slightly higher values were due to the consumption of mammoth or putrid meat. And we also know some examples of cannibalism for different Neandertal sites.

Paleolithic modern humans, who arrived in France shortly after the Neandertals had disappeared, exhibit even higher nitrogen isotope ratios than Neandertals. This is classically interpreted as the signature of freshwater fish consumption. Fishing is supposed to be a typical modern human activity, but again, a debate exists whether or not Neandertals were eating aquatic resources. When Klervia Jaouen, a researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology and first author of the study, and collaborators discovered high nitrogen isotope ratios in the collagen of two Neandertals falling in the range of modern humans, they wondered whether this could a signature of regular fish consumption...

...a novel isotope technique. Compound-specific isotope analyses (CSIA) allow to separately analyze the amino acids contained in the collagen. Some of the amino acid isotope compositions are influenced by environmental factors and the isotope ratios of the food eaten. Other amino acid isotope ratios are in addition influenced by the trophic level. The combination of these amino acid isotope ratios allows to decipher the contribution of the environment and the trophic level to the final isotope composition of the collagen.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: aminoacids; carnivorous; collagen; dietandcuisine; farmers; geicogastronomy; godsgravesglyphs; isotoperatios; klerviajaouen; maxplanckinstitute; meat; meatmeatmeat; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; nephilim; nitrogen; omniverous
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To: ETL

That has, repeat HAS, to be hot cocoa in the middle.

With little nonfat marshmallows.


61 posted on 02/20/2019 11:37:42 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Residue was found in the old dump sites (as in “taking a”) in the dried up feces which showed humans had been on the menu, among the Anasazi. The archaeology had already shown that the society had gone through major stress with wall divisions inside the residences and such. And it isn’t limited to the Anasazi, by any means, not even counting the devouring of human hearts cut out vivisection-style by the Aztecs.

http://www.google.com/search?q=sw+precolumbian+cannibalism


62 posted on 02/20/2019 11:38:27 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: blam

That would be the equivalent of LONG PIG, or would it be LONG PECCARY.
I’ve read (Bernal Diaz) that some of Cortez’ men were worried they may have eaten human sacrifice victims in the food they were given.


63 posted on 02/20/2019 11:39:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: central_va
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64 posted on 02/20/2019 11:40:13 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: central_va
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"The Daily Caller noted that in President Obama's best-selling memoir, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, the president recalls being fed dog meat as a young boy in Indonesia with his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.

"With Lolo, I learned how to eat small green chill peppers raw with dinner (plenty of rice), and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), and roasted grasshopper (crunchy)," the president wrote.

"Like many Indonesians, Lolo followed a brand of Islam that could make room for the remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths.

He explained that a man took on the powers of whatever he ate: One day soon, he promised, he would bring home a piece of tiger meat for us to share.""

http://abcnewsradioonline.com/politics-news/obama-ate-dog-meat-as-a-boy.html


65 posted on 02/20/2019 11:40:26 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: freedomlover

66 posted on 02/20/2019 11:41:38 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Magnum44
The food pyramid is so wrong, proven moreso every year. I'm healthier than I've ever been since adopting a keto lifestyle years ago. I've not personally taken the plunge into the zero carb side (I eat 20-30 grams of carbs per day) but they all enjoy greatly improved health as well. The carnivore reddit is a good source of info on that way of eating.
67 posted on 02/20/2019 11:52:32 AM PST by Teflonic (tt)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Almost all the AmerInd tribes practiced some form of cannibalism. Usually a warfare related ritualistic form. For example: eat the heart of your enemy absorb his strength & courage.


68 posted on 02/20/2019 11:54:45 AM PST by Reily
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To: Buttons12

Wilma didn’t want the cave to smell like fish


69 posted on 02/20/2019 11:55:11 AM PST by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m pretty sure Neanderthals and Humans were on seafood diets... When they seen anything that looked like it may be food, they ate it. And then they ate each other if there wasn’t anything else to be seen.


70 posted on 02/20/2019 11:56:05 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I bet that there was not a trace of diabetes to be found among them.


71 posted on 02/20/2019 11:58:19 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: SunkenCiv

Aha! So it’s their fault the glaciers began to melt 12k years ago...


72 posted on 02/20/2019 12:05:38 PM PST by rfp1234 (I don't watch CNN for the same reason I don't drink from the toilet.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

This may be why coastal Portugal is the last known settlement of Neanderthals.

I think the reason they went extinct is staring us in the face. Homo Sapiens were better at getting food.

Consider:
Homo Sapiens came out of the African plains. They were adept at efficient travel over long distances. Neanderthals were very muscular and inefficient travelling long distances. As populations increased and food grew scarce Homo Sapiens used less calories to acquire food and therefore required less food to maintain themselves.

Homo Sapiens had deeper voices than Neanderthals therefore their voices traveled longer distances than Neanderthals. This provided a much larger area for Homo Sapien hunting groups to operate in using coordinated, self-supporting hunting tactics.

The Neanderthals simply starved to death.


73 posted on 02/20/2019 12:53:05 PM PST by Justa
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To: SunkenCiv

From what I understand the Toltecs were the worst brutal offenders.


74 posted on 02/20/2019 12:54:19 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: central_va

Started when digging clams became harder to find? Oysters in the shallow water? Nets with catch from the bottom other than fish?


75 posted on 02/20/2019 3:31:58 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Openurmind

Beans are often toxic if not cooked. Cooking transforms plant food sources to require less from a digestive system.


76 posted on 02/20/2019 3:37:10 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom
Beans are often toxic if not cooked.

Beans can be toxic even after they're cooked, if you know what I mean.

77 posted on 02/20/2019 3:39:00 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ha!


78 posted on 02/20/2019 3:45:29 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: Openurmind

The Spanish were impressed by the Caribes!


79 posted on 02/20/2019 3:45:39 PM PST by Reily
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To: SunkenCiv

Main food source was definitely meat: Pulled pork, brisket, bbq ribs and smoked turkey.


80 posted on 02/20/2019 4:31:59 PM PST by Redcitizen
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