Possible stellar asterisms carved on a protohistoric stone

Astronomische Nachrichten via Wiley Online Library ^ | First published: 22 November 2023 | Paolo Molaro, Federico Bernardini

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Chisel marks on a stone uncovered in Rupinpiccolo protohistoric hill fort from north-eastern Italy were suggested to be a representation of the night sky (Bernardini et al. 2022 Documenta Praehistorica XLIX). The patterns of the 29 marks are analyzed here to establish if they reproduce popular stellar asterisms. Nine marks are found to match the Tail of Scorpius and five the Orion's Belt, together with Rigel and Betelgeuse. Nine marks are found in the approximate position of the Pleiades showing some match with the cluster members. On the back side, 5 marks possibly reproduce Cassiopeia. One mark slightly North of Orion cannot be identified. The 28 marks show a Pearson correlation coefficient (28) with stellar positions higher than 0.99 with a probability of a wrong correlation lower than 0.001. Departures are about one degree, or about 7 mm, as the mean diameter of the marks, which suggests a manufacturing limitation in the charting. The fort dates 1800–400 BCE when Scorpius and Orion showed about the same orientation at the heliacal rising. The unidentified mark challenges the whole picture. We suggest it could have been the progenitor of a failed supernova, thus offering also the possibility of a verification.

Two pairs of stone disks found at the entrances or graveyards of two Protohistoric hill forts from north-eastern Adriatic area have been recently interpreted as ritual artifacts, possibly a representation of the Sun and of the Night Sky (Bernardini et al. 2022). These protohistoric settlements were generally protected by massive stone walls and are known today as castellieri. They were settled for a very long time spanning from the late Early Bronze Age, approximately between 1800 and 1650 BCE, to the late Iron Age (Mihovilić 2013).

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[SunkenCiv]

[Red Badger]

Stellar asterisms?

Are there any other kind?.................

[Red Badger]

[M Kehoe]

Are there any other kind?.................

***

8^)

5.56mm

[null and void]

Beats me. The character above my 8 doesn’t work, I don’t have an ass-ta-risk

[Red Badger]

Stellar asterisms........They may be good, but not stellar.............

[Red Badger]

There’s one on your calculator keys.....................🤦‍♂️

[SunkenCiv]

Not sure about that, but in the area of stellar aphorisms, I’m thinkin’, Marlon Brando in a wifebeater.

[Red Badger]

I never saw what people see in him..................

[M Kehoe]

Ever have some beer named “Stellar Artois?

5.56mm

[SunkenCiv]

Imagine, a whole brand of cheese named after just a few moments in one of his roles. ;^)

[ComputerGuy]

Are there any other kind?................

They might be accepting lunarisms now. DEI, you know.

[Red Badger]

Or asteroids....................

[null and void]

If I could replace the tittle with an asterisk, wouldn’t I have starry i⃰i⃰ eyes?...

[Red Badger]

(*)(*).....................

[null and void]

Couldn’t say is, because the plural of i is is, depending on what the meaning of is is, of course...

[cephalopod]

Thanks for posting. I have a hard time matching the marks to the asterisms, but the article does a good job of demonstrating correlation; surprising anyone would have recognized the marks as significant.
I was glad to read that both precession and proper motion were mentioned as having been examined, neither being significant factors.

[Red Badger]

If the ancient Egyptian goddess were around today aboard a space station writing about a terrorist organization and was deciding whether they were still functional:

ISS Isis: ISIS Is..................

[null and void]

That works!