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San Francisco's Catholic Mayor Shakes Up His Church on Gay Marriage
Pacific News Service ^ | March 3, 2004 | Mary Jo McConahay

Posted on 03/03/2004 1:27:52 PM PST by NYer

EDITOR'S NOTE: The ongoing controversy over same-sex marriages, sparked by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, a Catholic, has forced many of the 65 million members of America's single largest denomination to wrestle with their beliefs. PNS editor Mary Jo McConahay says the Church, which has lost the battle on contraception, now is trying to hold firm on gay marriage.

SAN FRANCISCO: For the country's 65 million Catholics, President Bush's call for a constitutional ban against gay marriage throws a troubling new public spotlight on personal beliefs. But here in San Francisco, the fire seems hotter.

This the epicenter of the new national controversy, where open gay marriages with civic approval began in February, and where the Church is facing all the elements of a battle that is magnified as the issue spreads nationwide: bishops debilitated by the sex-abuse scandal, who condemn gay marriage; a laity split between opposition and acceptance; pro-gay marriage political leaders who may also be Catholic.

After only 36 days in office, Newsom stoked national debate to the conflagration point by ordering City Hall clerks to issue licenses to same-sex couples. The first marriage in the stately municipal rotunda joined two lesbian women who had lived together since l953; thousands followed. Civic authorities in New Paltz, NY, and Portland, OR are already following Newsom's lead.

Mayor Newsom went to a Catholic university in Santa Clara, about an hour from here, and he and his wife Kimberly were married in an elegant ceremony in a Catholic church overlooking the city. Locals point to the possibility of some degree of conflict between what the mayor may have imbibed from Catholicism, and his defiance of both church and state laws. Certainly the Church sees it that way.

San Francisco Archbishop William J. Levada reiterated that the Church demands "compassion and sensitivity toward homosexuals," and supports the kind of rights, benefits and protection of children that come with some legal civil unions. But he also reiterated that "marriage" must be between a man and a woman for procreation. Some fellow local Catholics, including some who had supported Newsom in elections, spoke bewilderment and hurt.

"I never thought you would be so hostile to marriage as to promote a concept that has been repudiated for thousands of years, not just by the Catholic faith in which you were baptized, but historically by all other groups and civilizations," wrote one neighborhood pastor in an unanswered letter to the Newsom.

Yet, thousands of Catholics count themselves among the two-thirds of San Franciscans who polls show favor the marriages. Roman Catholicism remains the single largest U.S. religious denomination. Voting is encouraged from the pulpit. And despite the shame and vulnerability brought on bishops by the clerical sex abuse scandals, congregations do give weight to the bishops' word on matters of faith. Last summer Rome said Catholic legislators must not only vote against gay unions, but also "clearly and publicly" express opposition. Pope John Paul II underscored the obligation in a statement as same-sex couples received licenses here.

It is a dictum that may be causing some lawmakers to squirm in Massachusetts, home state of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry. In November the state's Supreme Court ordered the legislature to draft a bill to legalize gay marriage by May. A majority of the body's 200 members are Catholic; bishops have written letters to more than one million rank and file Catholics to pressure them.

Worry that Catholic politicians answer to the Vatican alone, or even to their own religion, of course, was put to rest in the John F. Kennedy years. As a city supervisor in pre-election months, the Catholic Newsom drew women's votes when he pushed pro-abortion stands, which the Church condemns. Another Catholic supervisor, also under consideration as a mayoral candidate, declared he was Catholic and had a big family "by choice," opposed abortion and effectively scotched his own chances for a run against Newsom.
Some Catholics say they wish the Church would be as forceful in condemning capital punishment as gay marriage. Others point out that decades ago the Church also condemned artificial contraception because it ran contrary to the Church's understanding of the aim of sexual union, procreation; yet today contraception is practiced by huge numbers of Catholics, without causing a crisis in their faith lives or much hierarchical notice.

Other Catholics simply regard the controversy over purely civil "marriages" as irrelevant, because the Church does not recognize two persons as being truly joined unless they are married in religious ceremony. The Church is not about to do that even if the state recognizes its legality.

For some gay Catholics, however, this is precisely the most hurtful understanding.

Peter Novak is one of at least three faculty members at the Jesuit University of San Francisco who have gone with their partners, sometimes waiting all night in pouring rain, to get marriage licenses. Novak, who has a doctorate from Yale but grew up in Flint, Michigan, says his traditional large Catholic family has been largely welcoming about his untraditional relationship with his partner of nine years; Novak's father, an ordained deacon, on hearing about the "wedding" asked where the couple might have a gift registry. But the drama professor does not believe his relationship will ever be recognized in the eyes of the Church he loves, which is "painful" and makes him feel "inferior."

"I view the Church as compassionate and struggling with the issue," says Novak. "I get support from individual church members -- what we call the Body of Christ -- and I can still separate that from the institution of the Church.

"It doesn't take away the pain, but I can still call myself Catholic."


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1 posted on 03/03/2004 1:27:53 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer
ex·com·mu·ni·cate ( P )

- To deprive of the right of church membership by ecclesiastical authority.
- To exclude by or as if by decree from membership or participation in a group.

2 posted on 03/03/2004 1:30:20 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: NYer
I am floored.

I had no idea Newsom was a Catholic. Certainly isn't acting like one.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 1:31:19 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
"It doesn't take away the pain, but I can still call myself Catholic."

He can also call himself married or an aardvark. It just does not make it so.

He should simply leave the church if he can not follow the church's teachings.

4 posted on 03/03/2004 1:32:53 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; CAtholic Family Association; narses; ...
PNS editor Mary Jo McConahay says the Church, which has lost the battle on contraception, now is trying to hold firm on gay marriage.

Huh??

"Every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible is intrinsically evil."
Catechism Catholic Church 2370
(Quoting Humanae Vitae, an encyclical by Pope Paul VI)

Contraception is considered a sin because it denies both the unitive and procreative aspects of sexual union. Contraception adds an artificial element to a natural, loving act, and in doing so, it removes God from the act of procreation.

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


5 posted on 03/03/2004 1:33:55 PM PST by NYer (Ad Jesum per Mariam)
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To: NYer
Mayor Gavin "Judas" Newsom
6 posted on 03/03/2004 1:35:26 PM PST by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: NYer
When was his last (and I mean LAST) communion?
7 posted on 03/03/2004 1:36:03 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: NYer
"But the drama professor does not believe his relationship will ever be recognized in the eyes of the Church he loves, which is "painful" and makes him feel "inferior."

The challenge is coming. Will the Church stand? Or will it cave?
8 posted on 03/03/2004 1:38:47 PM PST by OpusatFR (It's only discrimination when the left is offended. Religious rights? Unconstitutional!!)
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To: All
And these Catholics (some good and some bad) have influenced their church too.

The Deadly Dozen

Canadian Prime Minister Taunts Church: "I Am A Catholic And For Abortion"
Catholic Church asks Tom Daschle to stop calling himself a Catholic
On Catholic Politicians and Faith
Vatican Urges Catholic Politicians to Vote Along Church Lines
Senator Santorum on Being Catholic and a Politician

William E. Simon, Sr. and Jr. Devout Catholics, Philanthropists and Politicians
Deadly Dozen senator taken to task over claims of Catholicism
THE BISHOP AND THE SENATOR [author links to FR thread regarding Daschle in her online column]
Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians
MI Gov Granholm Proclaims June "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month"

Colorado Governor To Media:'WE LOVE OUR CHURCH' [Gov. Bill Owens
U.S. Senator Brownback and Commentator Dick Morris Join Catholic Church
PRIEST REFUSES COMMUNION TO KNEELING PRO-LIFE POLITICIAN [Richard Black, Virginia]
Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights
Pope to MPs: Stop gay marriage

Vatican - Considerations regarding ... homosexual persons
CONFUSIONS ABOUT POLITICAL JUDGMENT AND THE MORAL LAW
Prelate says politicians who back abortion shouldn't go to Communion
Bishop draws fire for targeting Chrétien
Kennedy likens Vatican stance on gay unions to 'bigotry' (oh, go get a job, you little creep)

Ignorance or Malicious Intent? "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to..."
George Weigel on Authentic Catholic Citizenship, and the Duty of Catholic Politicians to Behave as Catholics
Conservative Catholics urge Church to challenge "dissenters"
[Robert F., Jr.] Kennedy to speak at Festival of Faiths (Environmentalism as religion)
Faithful Catholic Politicians

Catholic Bishops Eye Possible Crackdown of Pro-Abortion Pols
PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS
It is Time to Excommunicate the Politicians
Church vows to fight gay marriage: Catholics pressure pols
Should politicians toe their church line?

Church May Penalize Politicans
Catholic politicians facing dogmatic threat
Bishop appeals to Catholic lawmakers [Wisconsin]
New St. Louis Catholic Archbishop Warns Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians of Excommunication.
Bishop Objected to AIDS Walk

Wisconsin Catholic Lawmakers Seek Victim Status In Feud With Bishop
Bishop Burke discusses the letters he sent to Catholic politicians
Congressman Places Internal Pro-Abortion Docs in Congressional Record
Flynn: Dems ignore Catholics
Granholm gay rights order "a slap in the face"

Calif. Bishop To Gov. Davis: Pick Abortion Or Communion [formal excommunication?]
California Bishop to Gov: Oppose Abortion or No Communion (New Title)
Sacramento Bishop Challenges Governor on Abortion; Tells Davis to Stop Receiving Communion
Granholm's Bible-thumping Sure to Rile GOP
Bishop: No Communion for Abortion Backers

Legislators can't have Eucharist, bishop says: Don't serve supporters of abortion rights, euthanasia
Wisc. Bishop Tells Pro-Abort. Catholic Pols: Change Your Stripes or Stay Away from Holy Communion
Diocese targets Granholm on abortion
NJ Governor McGreevey a devout Catholic, yet diplomatic {Barf Alert}
Communion ban on lawmakers who back abortion starts furor

Bishop's ban ignites church-state debate
(MI) Governor's effort is first step to give gays special benefits, weapon against religion [Granholm]
(Louisiana) LA Archbishop aims call at some Catholic politicians [Hughes]
Hughes exhorts Catholic pols to toe line
The end of Catholic politicians

Maher's Moment: A look back at Bishop Maher's Denial of Communion to a Pro-Abortion Politician [Lucy Killea]
Bishops rekindle anti-Catholic bias
TREND? "Pro-Abort Politicians "Shouldn't Dare Come to Communion", Madison Bishop Backs Burke
Dolan lauds result of bishop's actions against lawmakers
Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

Bishop Burke: Just Doing His Job
AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION
Massachusetts Democrats Back Gay Marriage Edict
Archbishop Would Refuse Communion To John Kerry
Leading His Flock: Has the new archbishop of St. Louis crossed a line?

Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order
Denial of communion raises stakes for bishops and pro-choice legislators
Roman Catholic church raises some eyebrows by warning politicians
Kerry dodges constitutional ban question (Gay Marriage)
Kerry Signed Letter Endorsing Homosexual Marriage

Kerry Signed Letter Backing Gay Marriage
Could Jennifer Granholm be the St. Thomas More of our time?
Church's embrace of Sebelius angers anti-abortion advocates[Kansas]
Kansas Catholic Bishop Says No to Pro-Abortion Politicians at Events [Sebelius]
Bishop calls on Catholics to snub pro-choice speakers [Arbp James Keleher, Kansas City, Kan.

Governor fears unrest unless same-sex marriages are halted (GAY MARRIAGE HOMOAGENDA CIVIL WAR).
The Deadly Dozen

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights

PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

Kerry says he alone hasn't 'played games' on abortion

AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Archbishop [Raymond Burke] Would Refuse Communion To John Kerry

Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order

(re Kerry & Kennedy) Boston Bishop O'Malley Says "It Is Not Our Policy To Deny Communion"

Catholics Attack Kerry on Abortion Stance

KERRY & GAY MARRIAGE

Kerry tells off the Pope

Kerry dodges constitutional ban question (Gay Marriage)

Kerry Signed Letter Endorsing Homosexual Marriage

Kerry Signed Letter Backing Gay Marriage

John Kerry: A Call To Service Excerpt (on being a practicing Catholic)

Well,well,well!["Catholics for Kerry" leader works for United States Conference of Catholic Bishops]

Catholics Can't Back Laws Contrary to Life, Insists Pope
San Francisco's Catholic Mayor Shakes Up His Church on Gay Marriage[Gavin Newsom]

9 posted on 03/03/2004 1:38:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
I didn't read this article because Newsom CAN'T be a Catholic.
10 posted on 03/03/2004 1:42:12 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: NYer
You can call yourself anything you want. It doesn't make it so. There are no bars, metal detectors, or ID checks at the door to a church. You can be the worst, most vile person in the world and still smile and walk into any denomination and go through the rituals. But if you don't follow the doctrines, believe the words, you might as well sleep in on Sunday.
The Catholic Church is against abortion and against gay marriage. If you promote either then you can call it what you want but both God and those around you know the truth. I think it is high time the Church DID start excommunicating these people. They certainly don't merit being called Catholic and I resent them tainting the name.
11 posted on 03/03/2004 1:42:26 PM PST by IrishCatholic (Liberals are proof that public education has failed.)
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To: NYer
There is a long list of so called Catholic politicians that need to be Excommunicated, starting with Ted Kennedy and working through Newsom .
12 posted on 03/03/2004 1:43:01 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Salvation; NYer; Canticle_of_Deborah; Domestic Church; AKA Elena; Askel5; Romulus; Diago; ...
Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for us.
13 posted on 03/03/2004 1:45:12 PM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: NYer
EXCOMMUNICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14 posted on 03/03/2004 1:46:48 PM PST by FlatLandBeer
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To: NYer
It is very, very simple. If you believe in Christ, you have to believe in Scripture. Once you start choosing WHAT to believe, everything falls away and you are left with your own dreams.

Either He is who He says He is, and said what Scripture said He said, or it is all one, big, unhappy fraud.

There is no 'special, middle ground'. Sola Scriptura.
15 posted on 03/03/2004 1:47:45 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: NYer
"It doesn't take away the pain, but I can still call myself Catholic."

The faith has objective content. One cannot simply pick and choose which doctrines of the deposit of faith to believe and be a Catholic, at least not one in good standing.

16 posted on 03/03/2004 1:50:54 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: jwalsh07
He can also call himself married or an aardvark. It just does not make it so.

Wrong. If he was baptized a Catholic, he IS a Catholic.

17 posted on 03/03/2004 1:52:03 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: OpusatFR
"But the drama professor does not believe his relationship will ever be recognized in the eyes of the Church he loves, which is "painful" and makes him feel "inferior."

I read "drama professor" and his complaint, and the phrase "drama queen" just popped in my head. Pun intended.

18 posted on 03/03/2004 1:54:47 PM PST by WOSG (If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
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To: NYer
Unfortunately, Archbishop Levada is a jerk.

But this story is wishful thinking.
19 posted on 03/03/2004 1:56:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: little jeremiah
Ping


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20 posted on 03/03/2004 1:58:53 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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