Cameron the Infidel

Redstate.com ^ | 27 February, 2007 | .cnI redruM

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>He could take a DNA sample from the eucharist. :-P


I'd believe that, but you only sip the communion wine.

[.cnI redruM]

>>>>it's that he was crucified by the Romans. The bones ought to show evidence of that, if they're for the right man.


Actually, Crucifixion was a common punishment. Also, it was a punishment for the poor and the working class. People, who by most standards of the day never could have afforded a family plot. More than one guy named Jesus could have been believed guilty of a capital offense and punished that way.

Someone who was poor enough to crucify, rather than punishing in a more dignified manner, would not have been able to afford a box to be buried in. Those things cost a lot more, proportionally, than they do now.

[Western Phil]

"Pathetic, why? Do you think he forged the ossuaries? Or do you think they're for real, but that he's wrong to bring them to the public?"

His conclusions do not necessarily follow from the observations. There are many alternate explanations which can readily match the facts. From what I have seen, this yahoo apparently ignores them.

[Physicist]

Someone who was poor enough to crucify, rather than punishing in a more dignified manner, would not have been able to afford a box to be buried in.

Well, there you go. Either the guy in the box (if indeed there be bones) was crucified or not. If not, wrong guy, end of story. If so, then it's something unusual, as you say.

[Frank_2001]

"When is Mr. Cameron going to go after Mohammed"?

As soon as he gives up air travel and starting his own car in the morning;)

[Frank_2001]

Agreed-just boycott this dirtbag!

[SunkenCiv]

thanks go to GoLightly and xcamel for compiling the list (thus far) of such topics:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=jesustomb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789769/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1789966/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790456/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790579/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1790608/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1790818/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790884/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790953/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791244/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1791251/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791284/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791352/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791365/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791383/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791513/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791544/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791583/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791588/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791610/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791891/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[Elsie]

Perhaps the press should be reminded that Cameron's claims also constitute apostasy against the muslim prophet Isa and his mother Mary

I really doubt the RoP cares much.

The Koran bad mouths Isa (Jesus) MUCH more than this!

[Elsie]

Koran (Quran) reference numbers...

 

'Isa did not die on a cross

Christians and Jews have corrupted their scriptures. (3:74-77, 113) Although Christians believe 'Isa died on a cross, and Jews claim they killed him, in reality he was not killed or crucified, and those who said he was crucified lied (4:157). 'Isa did not die, but ascended to Allah. (4:158) On the day of Resurrection 'Isa himself will be a witness against Jews and Christians for believing in his death. (4:159)

 

[Sans-Culotte]

Miriam/Mariam/Mary, Iusuf/Joseph, and Yeshua/Joshua/Jesus were about the most common names around at that time.

Look how common names are in the Jesus story in general. Barabbas (of "Give us Barabbas" fame) was named Jesus Barabbas. Two of the disciples were named James (as was one of Jesus' brothers). Two disciples were named Simon (and Jesus ate with a Pharisee named Simon and another man named Simon carried His cross for him), and two may have been named Judas (Thaddeus is sometimes listed as a Judas in addition to Judas Iscariot). As to Marys, we have Jesus' mother, Mary Magdalene, and Mary of Bethany. In addition to the mischievous Salome who danced for John the Baptist's head, there was a Salome who was a follower of Jesus. John the Baptist prepared the way for Jesus, but he is not be confused with John the apostle.

There are not all that many "characters" in the story of Jesus, but of those named, a surprising # of them have the same name.

[highlander_UW]

And if the box is empty...

The only thing that is empty is the head of anyone who buys this fabrication. I saw one story that said DNA evidence proves they were married. Oh, really? Unrelated people have a DNA match once they become married? This isn't even good faux-science.