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The Catholic Betrayal of Religious Freedom
National Review ^ | February 20, 2012 | George Weigel

Posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:11 AM PST by Petrosius

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1 posted on 02/20/2012 6:58:13 AM PST by Petrosius
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The Church did this to itself when it went along with the Kennedys and Pelosi wing of the Church. The Bishops accepted the idea that politics and the church were unrelated.

As long as a John Kerry was a “good” Catholic...he went to mass on Sunday, and kicked in financial support...he could receive communion...and be for the murder of the unborn.

What did they think would happen?


2 posted on 02/20/2012 7:09:17 AM PST by kjo
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I am not a Catholic.

But, IMHO, it is way, way past time for the church to grow some cojones and start kicking ass, taking names, refusing communion and considering excommunication.

How in the world can the Catholic church even think about offering communion to those that promote the killing of the unborn, ESPECIALLY barbarous partial birth abortion?

The church has gone way down the PC path and is now getting kicked in the teeth for its efforts. Time to fight back!


3 posted on 02/20/2012 7:20:07 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: upchuck

There’s a hard day a-comin’...and a hard rain is gonna fall.


4 posted on 02/20/2012 7:21:49 AM PST by kjo
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HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius prior to her assignment in the Obama administration was direceted by her bishop not to received.

That says it all.

5 posted on 02/20/2012 7:25:35 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: upchuck

M_O_N_E_Y! The Catholic Church does not cut off the heads (figuratively speaking) of Liberal Catholic Deep Pocket Parishioners...


6 posted on 02/20/2012 7:26:18 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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The Catholic Betrayal of Religious Freedom
7 posted on 02/20/2012 7:37:54 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: dps.inspect

Isn’t that a shame. Isn’t love of money a sin?


8 posted on 02/20/2012 7:43:48 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: kjo

Exactly.

Good article if a bit long-winded. When the author uses the term “Liberal Catholic” he is using a qualifier to the term Catholic. Other words for qualifier are modifier or conditioner. They are modified Catholics who adhere more closely to the tenets of their political religion (liberalism) than they do Catholicism.

Honorable Catholics would be doing themselves a huge favor by insisting that these almost Catholics choose - conform or vacate.


9 posted on 02/20/2012 7:45:55 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: upchuck

Ever since the French Revolution neutered the church there as a branch of French perverted intelligence leftist agencies, the Catholic Church has embraced many french ideas and been completely subverted. ROme is not in control.


10 posted on 02/20/2012 8:14:15 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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I do not know why writers continually bring up people like DeLauro when discussing Catholics in Congress.

If you call her office, her official response is, “Rep. DeLauro is not a practicing Catholic.” When someone has not attended Mass for 40 years, have they reached the point where they are no longer referred to as Catholic? Same with the others mentioned, Pelosi, etc.


11 posted on 02/20/2012 8:30:12 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I went to southern Maine to campaign against MITT.)
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The problem is that the Catholic social agenda fits better with the Liberals except for abortion. From immigration, welfare, to the view of business as suspect or evil they fit better than with the GOP version (which can be close to social Darwinism). If abortion ever stopped being an issue, the electoral swing would be massive.
12 posted on 02/20/2012 8:50:18 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Yet, since both Blessed John Paul II and now with Pope Benedict XVI, by appointing much more conservative bishops and with the recent updating of the English and other countries wording in the liturgy to match the Latin, tradition has pretty much made a comeback in the Church.


13 posted on 02/20/2012 9:09:20 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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BREAKING: Every Single Bishop Has Condemned the Obama/HHS Mandate!

14 posted on 02/20/2012 9:20:06 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: upchuck; kjo; dps.inspect; rockrr; JudgemAll; redgolum
Before any more Catholic bashing goes on -- I would like to know where your church's statement against the HHS mandate is. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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Pat Buchanan: 'Obama is trampling on God's turf' (Video)
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15 posted on 02/20/2012 9:24:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I was not bashing Catholics, I was bashing the French and the faux catholics there. PAris is the new Rome in many ways.


16 posted on 02/20/2012 9:36:24 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Salvation

I hope that you don’t think that I’m engaging in “Catholic bashing” since that is definitely not my intent. Although not a Catholic I stand with the church’s right to practice without interference by Øbozo & co.

My previous post is a cautionary note that “liberalism” seeks to compromise your church in the same way it compromises and contaminates everything it touches.


17 posted on 02/20/2012 9:39:23 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Salvation

Against it, and have testified in Congress against it.

My point wasn’t to bash, but to explain why so many Catholics lean liberal Democrat.


18 posted on 02/20/2012 9:42:55 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Your problem, which is almost as common as liberalism, is that you confuse the prudential statements that you read in the DLEMM - Dominant Liberal Establishment Mass Media - with the actual teaching of the Church.


19 posted on 02/20/2012 11:00:36 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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M_O_N_E_Y! The Catholic Church does not cut off the heads (figuratively speaking) of Liberal Catholic Deep Pocket Parishioners...

What a load of crapola. If you think that liberals like Biden give money to the Church, you're a bigger crackhead than Whitney Houston.

20 posted on 02/20/2012 11:07:50 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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