Skip to comments.A Celestial Collision
Posted on 09/15/2004 9:04:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Early in the evening of June 18, 1178, a group of men near Canterbury, England, stood admiring the sliver of a new moon hanging low in the west. In terms they later described to a monk who recorded their sighting, "Suddenly a flaming torch sprang from the moon, spewing fire, hot coals and sparks." In continuing their description of the event, they reported that "The moon writhed like a wounded snake and finally took on a blackish appearance"... [P]lanetary scientist Jack Hartung of the State University of New York... gathered enough clues to suggest that a large asteroid... might have smacked into the moon just over the horizon on the back side. To test his suspicion, Hartung went to the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, and inspected Russian and American photographs of the moon's back side. Sure enough, in just the right place, he found a remarkably fresh crater, 12 miles across and twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. From it radiated white splatter marks for hundreds of miles... Such an impact, reason astrophysicists, would set the moon to ringing like a gong for thousands of years... At Texas' McDonald Observatory, astronomers Odile Calame and J. Derral Mulholland of the University of Texas find that the surface of the moon moves back and forth fully 80 feet! Such an oscillation clearly implies a collision with something large, sometime within the not-too-distant past, probably within the memory of mankind. The problem is that there is no way to peg the date exactly at 1178.
(Excerpt) Read more at dogbert.gi.alaska.edu ...
A few years ago (okay, probably five) someone actually tried to refute this 1178 AD impact by claiming there would have been numberless "shooting star" reports on Earth had such an impact actually taken place. He was wrong of course, but I'm sure he still got his PhD.A Flash From the Past:On the Moon, material that is freshly exposed has a slight bluish tinge. Over time, because of the constant bomb ardment of cosmic rays, other high-energy particles and micrometeorites, the structure of the material changes and iron particles tend to predominate, making the material slightly red.
New Evidence Supports Moon Blast
by Henry Fountain
March 4, 2003
In the Clementine photos, Dr. Buratti and Mr. Johnson found one small crater that was "very, very blue and fresh appearing," Dr. Buratti said. It also happened to be in the exact center of the area they were looking. And it was the proper size slightly less than a mile across, including the ejecta blanket. Dr. Bu ratti estimated the size of the asteroid at 20 yards in diameter.
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This event came as a surprise, as I've never heard it recounted by any of my elderly relatives, and most of them died before I read about it in this book. A number of other such impacts, including some which hit or nearly hit people, ships, animals etc, are described in this book, which I recommend. My review on Amazon is still there, but much shorter than I remember...
Sure, but sightings aren't reports, and who would take reports anyway? After all, Dan Rather wasn't around then to place it in the public record. Was he?
It is difficult to pin the date at exactly 1178. It depends on the day in 1178, as there were calendar adjustments after that :D
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That explains it... :'D
other lunar topics I've started:
In the shadow of the Moon
New Scientist ^ | 30 January 1999 | editors
Posted on 08/31/2004 8:42:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
It Came from Outer Space?
American Scientist ^ | November-December 2004 | David Schneider
Posted on 11/25/2004 5:13:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv
When the Days Were Shorter
Alaska Science Forum (Article #742) ^ | November 11, 1985 | Larry Gedney
Posted on 10/04/2004 10:31:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Giordano Bruno, the June 1975 Meteoroid Storm,
Encke, and Other Taurid Complex Objects
Icarus (Volume 104, Issue 2 , pp 280-290) ^ | August 1993 | Jack B. Hartung
Posted on 12/27/2004 2:37:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv
there are also topics about the 1953 impact.
Britain's Plan To Save Planet From Quakes And Asteroids...
The Times | 3/30/05 | Mark Henderson
Posted on 03/29/2005 7:05:24 PM PST by LoudAmericanCowboy
from my Links page on FR:
Catastrophism: Argument for the Cometary Origin of the Biosphere
Catastrophism: Astronomers unravel a mystery of the Dark Ages
Catastrophism: Catastrophic event preceded Dark Ages -- scientist
Catastrophism: Celestial Collision
Catastrophism: Cosmic Hole-in-One Captured Over Antarctica
Catastrophism: Early volcano victims discovered
Catastrophism: Electric Arcs in Planetary Science (thanks Swordmaker!)
Catastrophism: Eltanin Impact Crater
Catastrophism: Forests Frozen In Time
Catastrophism: Giant asteroid rocked Antarctica
Catastrophism: Grains Found in Ga. Traced to Asteroid
Catastrophism: Hazard of Near-Earth Asteroid Impacts on Earth
Catastrophism: Huge Idiocy Posted at FreeRepublic
Catastrophism: Ice-Core Evidence Challenges 1620 BC date for the Santorini Eruption
Catastrophism: Impact Event in 3114 BC? The beginning of a Turbulent Millennium
Catastrophism: In the shadow of the Moon
Catastrophism: It Came from Outer Space?
Catastrophism: June 1975 Meteoroid Storm, Encke, and Other Taurid Complex Objects
Catastrophism: Lake Michigan Impact in 1919 (I posted it)
Catastrophism: Loss of Musk Ox Genetic Diversity at Pleistocene-Holocene Transition
Catastrophism: Mass Extinctions -- the New Catastrophism in the History of Life
Catastrophism: Moon over Chicxulub
Catastrophism: New evidence for the Moon's soft middle
Catastrophism: Niue 'flattened' by tsunami-type waves [blast from the past]
Catastrophism: Peekskill Fireball -- October 9, 1992
Catastrophism: Powerful Quake Shakes Seabed Near Vanuatu
Catastrophism: Professor Says Mayan Calendar Does Not Portend Earth's Doom (2012AD)
Catastrophism: Reality of Ancient Catastrophism
Catastrophism: Red Planet's Ancient Equator Located
Catastrophism: Reworked Images Reveal Hot Venus
Catastrophism: Road to Saturn by Dwardu Cardona (thanks Junior)
Catastrophism: Shocked Quartz from Chesapeake Asteroid
Catastrophism: Small Asteroid Passes Between Satellites and Earth
Catastrophism: Small Comets and Our Origins
Catastrophism: Spitzer Sees the Aftermath of a Planetary Collision
Catastrophism: When the Days Were Shorter
a bump for 2006:
Comet or Meteorite Impact Events in 1178AD?
SIS Conference | 1-26-2003 | Emilio Spedicato
Posted on 01/03/2005 6:59:02 PM EST by blam
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Link hunted down with help from wikipedia; looks like the date in “Rain of Iron and Ice” is off by a day; the story is found near the bottom of the second column:
(the copy and paste appears to be OCR-quality, iow, needed some editing)
The Washington Tîmes
THURSDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 27, 1919.
EARTH QUIVERS AS SKY PHENOMENON DESCENDS
Electric Plants Wrecked As Strange Visitor Appears on Michigan- Indiana Line.
CHICAGO. Nov. 27 — Telegraph snd telephone communications and electric lighting plants in several cities in southern Michigan and northern Indiana were out of commission today as a result of a remarkable phenomenon, believed by several scientists to have been a gigantic meteor which rushing earthward from the East appeared to dissolve as it approached the earth near Athens, Mich., last night.
The phenomenon is reported to have assumed various forms, in its race earthward, ranging from a brilliant illumination to a heavy rain accompanied by heavy thunder.
The phenomenon was seen over Chicago by several persons. It was reported here shortly before 8 o’clock. It appeared over the lake and resembled in appearance an extraordinarily prolonged flash of heat lightning.
Athens, Battle Creek, and Three Oaks, Mich., report considerable damages to property. At Athens, it in said, there was an earthquake, continuing for fully three minutes, accompanied by a heavy rain and wind storm, a loud clap of thunder, and a flash of light in the sky of longer duration than lightning.
At La Porte, South Bend, Fort Wayne. Warsaw, and other Indiana points, windows were broken by the concussion.
The Calumet Electric Light Company, at Kalamazoo, Mich., and several smaller plants throughout this section of the country were temporarily disabled.
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