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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 19-23
Various | November 18, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/18/2003 5:41:24 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 9 - November 19-23)
Link back to thread 8 (Nov. 14-18)

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Contained in Thread 8:

Contact info for Judge Greer and the 6th DCA, link to argument between Pat Anderson and Judge Greer, Judge Baird's predetermination of the case, timeline of Terri's case, statutes being violated (also here) in Terri's case, contact information for Bernie McCabe and Jay Wolfson ( link to a better address for Bernie McCabe), super contact list for Florida courts, legislature, Senate and Washington, link to Gov. Bush's amicus curiae brief, Responding to Patients in the Persistent Vegetative State , a Christian parspective, PC93's letter of complaint against Michael Schiavo to demand criminal investigation and more contact information, contact information for the Florida Committee on guardianship, testimony of Jackie Rhodes, interesting article Is Wife-icide Legal In Florida(?), contact information for investigative ops and judicial operations, transcript of the Hannity and Colmes interview with the Schindlers, links to transcripts of other shows on Terri's case, contact information for Fox News shows, address to send Terri's birthday cards and contact information for advocacy center investigating Terri's abuse and neglect.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

INDEX OF TERRI THREADS ON FR

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Latest threads on Terri's Case:

A "Painless" Death?

Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990? (Nat Hentoff)

His Fight to Give Terri Schiavo Communion

Terri's family appeals to Oprah fans

Terri Schiavo's Fight

Court Issues New Stay in Schiavo Case

Judge calls Terri's Law intrusive

Mom kept hope for girl who came out of vegetative state

Hannity & Colmes Tonight - Monday, 11-17-03 - Terri Schindler-Schiavo's Parents

"Terri's Lights" Campaign Raises Awareness of Terri Schiavo's Plight

Catholic Media Coalition Declares November 30, 2003 "Theresa Schindler Schiavo Day"

Terri's dad: 'She's literally been a prisoner'

Husband's attorney seeks end to delays in Schiavo case

Terri's Threads on FreeRepublic.com - 18 Nov 2003 0351 PST



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"...our eyes wait upon the LORD our God, until that he have mercy upon us." (Ps. 123:2b)

"For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth." (Ps. 37:9)

1 posted on 11/18/2003 5:41:25 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
New thread ping!

If you want on or off of this ping list, please let me know.

2 posted on 11/18/2003 5:45:18 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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BTTT
3 posted on 11/18/2003 6:02:42 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: sweetliberty
Ping for Thread 9
4 posted on 11/18/2003 6:02:50 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: sweetliberty
I was going to add some links to the thread but I see you already have them.

Nothing to add today but some prayers for the family. I'm behind in school and facing a lot of medical procedures the next two weeks, so I can't even really stay informed as well as I would like.
5 posted on 11/18/2003 6:03:55 PM PST by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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To: ChemistCat
Hope it all goes well for you and that you're back and better than ever very soon.
6 posted on 11/18/2003 6:07:19 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sweetliberty
I love today's scriptures.
7 posted on 11/18/2003 6:09:24 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Krodg
I love today's scriptures.

I was just thinking the same thing Krodg. Thank you Sweetliberty.

8 posted on 11/18/2003 6:16:10 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: All; sweetliberty
Somebody please catch me up to speed...

Florida statute says that artificial life support can be removed if either a)terminal, b)PVS or C)end of life condition.

Florida statute defines PVS:
(12) "Persistent vegetative state" means a permanent and irreversible condition of unconsciousness in which there is: (a) The absence of voluntary action or cognitive behavior of any kind. (b) An inability to communicate or interact purposefully with the environment.

Yet, Judge Greer ruled Terri's responses were not consistent, not that she didn't have any kind of voluntary action or cognitive behavior.

HOW can this ruling stand if he violated Florida statute with his ruling?
9 posted on 11/18/2003 6:19:45 PM PST by Micavaga (DV can NOT be tolerated any longer in this country!)
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To: Micavaga
I cannot believe the ruling that came down today. Why are these Judge's in such a hurry?

It just makes me sick. I will continue to pray for Terri.

10 posted on 11/18/2003 6:26:37 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Micavaga
This case is full of inconsistencies and contradictions, not to mention serious conflicts of interest involving judges, HINO's death lawyer, hospice and who knows what other players. Just what we've turned up is bad enough.

The best thing I can recommend is to go back and browse some of the threads. Each of the regular threads, such as this one, has at the top a link back to the previous thread and there are some links in the opening paragraph to the key items in the previous thread. Thread #7, I believe it is, has links in the header to all the previous daily/update threads.

The short version: Terri is quite possibly NOT PVS, food and water are NOT artificial life support, Judge Greer has admitted to ignoring evidence (never mind the fact that he is legally blind so cannot even even see some of the evidence), Terri could NOT have said she wanted this because it was not even an option at the time she was injured, there is evidence that Michael Schiavo may have been the cause of her condition, there is an open investigation of abuse and neglect of a disabled person in Terri's case and there has been a lot of @ss-covering going on. Schiavo has gone from intent on killing her to desperate to kill her.

11 posted on 11/18/2003 6:35:17 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: sarasmom
what does BTTT stand for?
12 posted on 11/18/2003 8:14:22 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: sweetliberty; KDubRN
KDubRN just posted some shocking new information on post #1203 on the old thread. I'm pinging her to this thread and asking her to repost it here.
13 posted on 11/18/2003 8:40:09 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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To: lonevoice
Here's the newest info I have.
I realize some of this content will blow you away, but this ought to give us even more incentive to raise the roof with LE and judiciary in the state of Fl. If you use these details, send CC to JEB and DOJ, and GW, maybe we can blow the thing wide open. MS is concerned. He wasn't under investigation before. He's afraid of that now. If enough people know this and yell loud enough, maybe these inept a$$es will do their jobs.

Carla Sauer Iyer did an A&E & NBC special this eve.
They interviewed her, Felos, Hammesfahr,and the girl who was recently on the news that had come out of a coma, Diane something or another.

They were shocked when Carla had told them that 5 of the health care workers were dead. 2 of natural causes, 3 from auto accidents. Coincidence?
Their jaws dropped when she told them that she has been followed. Carla is the key witness. Her home alarm has gone off frequently of late. There are cigarette butts in her yard, and neither she, nor her husband smoke.

Why isn't Bernie interested in investigating this? Carla filed a police report. Carla had to move because MS was stalking her in the past, while she went to court over the insulin bottles. She had contacted the police over that. Was fired. And had to go to court. Everybody is afraid of crossing MS.

They place cops at hospice to protect Terri. From what? Her parents taking pictures? One cop at every entrance and exit, and one at her door. They sit in their cars at the entrance to the place. They play card games on their computers. Still haven't found out who pays for that. Yet they allow a girl to be stalked.

Are you mad yet? Contact these inept officials
berniemccabe@fdle.state.fl.us, wqueen@pcsonet.com, courts@jud6.org, supremecourt@flcourts.org

CC:
info@advocacycenter.org, inspector.general@usdoj.gov, ag@oag.state.fl.us, Jeb.Bush@MyFlorida.com, AskDOJ@usdoj.gov,

Send this info to everybody you know. When we find out when Carla will be on A&E, I shall let you know.
14 posted on 11/18/2003 8:44:13 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: KDubRN; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; ...
I got the impression from the beginning of your post that they were already on. I hope she has good protection.

Y'all be sure and read post #14!

15 posted on 11/18/2003 8:52:53 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: KDubRN
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16 posted on 11/18/2003 8:54:01 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
BTTT means "bump to the top." Keeps the thread visible on the main page.
17 posted on 11/18/2003 9:00:48 PM PST by lakey
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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18 posted on 11/18/2003 9:16:03 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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19 posted on 11/18/2003 9:16:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: sweetliberty

Today - November 18, 2003
Story from AP.

Volunteers who wish to take action can contact the following Florida Agencies demanding that a full investigation be made into allegations of abuse and neglect of a vulnerable adult under Florida Statute 415.104 (Protective investigations of cases of abuse, neglect, or exploitation of vulnerable adults; transmittal of records to state attorney.)

Suncoast Region - Adult Services Program
9393 N. Florida Avenue
Tampa, FL 33612-7907
(813) 558-5580
800-96-ABUSE - State Offices

State Attorney, McCabe Bernie
14250 49th St N
Clearwater, FL 33762-2800
(727) 464-6221

Pinellas County Sheriff's Department
Largo, FL 33770
(727) 588-6777

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Today's Update

Terri's Birthday is December 3rd. People have asked how they may participate. Find out here!


Family attorney, Patricia Anderson speaks to Glenn Beck about this case.
Terri's Law Who is Terri Schiavo?

20 posted on 11/18/2003 9:20:15 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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