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DUBOB 11- more tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast...
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| 01-31-03
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 01/31/2003 5:07:21 PM PST by backhoe
At the request of members, I am restarting those "Tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast"-- the stories and issues that the press and media either ignore, won't even talk about, or will mention once and forevermore claim "it's old news..."
Naturally, some will be stories which interest me, or things I think we all need to be aware of.
I am experimenting with a minor change in presentation- when I can, I will cut to
-GoogleNewsBeta--
with a keyword or two and see what kind of links to "mainstream" stories I can find in contrast to what we see here and on other sites.
May I remind you of a couple of points to bear in mind?
Each link usually has many other links within- follow them all to get "the rest of the story."
Don't forget the "open multiple browsers" trick with control-n -- this allows you to hold your place with one, and use the others to follow links, run searches, etc.
Rather than go back and rehash old links, I'll give you links to the original posts here:
-DUBOB 10- the *best of* the Dark Underbelly Series--
-DUBOB 9-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast..... --
DUBOB 8-- still *more* tales from the Underbelly***
DUBOB 7-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....
DUBOB 6-- yet *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....
DUBOB 5-- even *more* tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast.....
DUBOB IV- yet more Tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast-
DUBOB III -- "Tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast"
DUBOB 2-- more tales from The Dark Underbelly of the Beast-- thread II
-The Dark Underbelly of the Beast- Stories the Media won't Discuss...--
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To: All
The resistance doesnt speak Beltway
This is a letter written by a lady from the Massachusetts 912 project; she attended the meeting and was told no cameras or questions.
To all concerned patriots. Michelle and I went to the so called "town hall" meeting today in Worcester. Congressman McGovern was joined by Richard Neal. It was standing room only. It was such an orchestrated dog and pony show it was ridiculous. We were outraged, as were many other people. As soon as they began, they announced that questions that had been submitted on index cards would be addressed at some point during the "discussion" That brought an outcry from those of us who wanted to ask some real questions. There were a few, particulary one very outspoken woman, who sat down front, who came right out and stated that she was all for the healthcare plan. Every time one of the many who are opposed tried to speak, she basically led the chant of "shut up" and sit down. At one point people were told that they would be removed from the proceedings if they continued to shout out questions. Then they agreed to take questions if we wrote them on index cards and handed them to people who were posted there to collect them. There was no opportunity to get up and speak. It was the most blatant example of the Obama lovers deliberately trying to silence any who dared to disagree. We were also told that we could not bring our cameras into the "meeting" One man had to take his all the way back to his car. This was not a meeting, it was an informercial and propaganda tour. People better wake up and start doing something to stop this, or we are all doomed. Neither McGovern or Neal truly answered questions from us, other than the usual evasive liberal rhetoric.
These people are afraid to even let us speak.
"I knew he was a murderer and a thug," Gustavo recalls today in a gravelly Spanish drawl. "You can tell that just by how someone acts." "I hated the men who had killed my father," Gustavo says today. "I didn't care about democracy because it didn't really mean anything to me at that point. It wasn't about politics. It was personal."
Yeah. This is going to make you want to stay home and shut up...The DNC is attacking American taxpayers concerned about the record deficit and spending under the Pelosi-Reid-Obama regime:
Outrageous!Obama and Pelosi have bankrupted the country and you're supposed to remain silent.
Stay home. Be good little hopey-changers and shut up.
And, once again, the democrats are trying to put the blame of their actions on George Bush and the GOP.

Obama will more than
quadruple the US budget deficit his first year in office.
Sorry, DNC-- This
deficit is all yours.
10,901
posted on
08/05/2009 4:59:43 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All


Wait! Check the clickable map.
EVERY STATE GIVES 0 AN F.

(10) Your annual breast exam is done at Hooters.
(9) Directions to your doctor's office include "Take a left when you enter the trailer park."
(8) The tongue depressors taste faintly of Fudgesicles.
(7) The only proctologist in the plan is "Gus" from Roto-Rooter.
(6) The only item listed under Preventative Care Coverage is "an apple a day."
(5) Your primary care physician is wearing the pants you gave to Goodwill last month.
(4) "The patient is responsible for 200% of out-of-network charges," is not a typographical error.
(3) The only expense covered 100% is.. "Embalming."
(2) Your Prozac comes in different colors with little M's on them.
AND THE NUMBER ONE SIGN YOU'VE JOINED OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN:
(1) You ask for Viagra, and they give you a Popsicle stick and duct tape.
Forwarding this to the White House flag@whitehouse.gov
THIS has been found to be OK.

But THIS is considered "scare tactics".



Simple symbol of resistance:

A long time ago, back before Dear Abby flew off into MoonBat Land ( and obviously, before she assumed room temperature... ) she got a letter ( cant recall the context ) from a woman reader who stated:
I want a man that looks like a man, feels like a man, and smells like a man!
I might add, I feel the same way about women- dont want a damn hothouse plant doused in perfume- Ill take honest sweat any day.
While I suspect this report might be goosing the hyperbole a little, at least its pointed in the right direction...
10,902
posted on
08/05/2009 12:01:27 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
August 5, 2009 03:10 PM by Michelle Malkin

The consigliere to the Clinton thugocracy decries the taxpayer counterinsurgency and calls on left-wing hitmen to photograph and investigate Obamacare protesters to prove that they are being paid by the Republican right to express their opinions and demand accountability from their congressional representatives (never mind that so many of these protests have been aimed at Republicans who have betrayed their principles).
Via Politico:
Start with these.32 Comments
August 5, 2009 01:35 PM by Michelle Malkin
hold your congressional town hall in a childrens hospital to avoid tough questions.
Its the Democrat human shield strategy at work again. Kenneth Wallis in Little Rock reports on Rep. Vic Snyders plan to evade constituent accountability:
Tried and true:
42 Comments |
"What does this mean? That constituents cant question anyone at an open forum?"
"This is actually the ideal location. Now the attendees can ask him how long these kids will be waiting for treatment under Obamacare. And at what stage will some bureaucrat decide that this child is too sick to treat and this child can get treatment.Let the parents of these sick children know what Obama care has in store for their children."
Obama and DNC smear machine to hoi poloi [Darleen Click]See more:
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If you know whats good for you, youll stop with the dissent and let us run your life.
Via Michelle Malkin comes The DNC smearing every dissenting voice to their attempts to transform America as illegitimate.
WASHINGTON (CNN) The Democratic National Committee released a sharply-worded statement Tuesday accusing Republicans of colluding with K Street Lobbyists to incite angry mobs of extremists to disrupt health care town halls in congressional districts around the country
[...]The Republicans and their allied groups desperate after losing two consecutive elections and every major policy fight on Capitol Hill are inciting angry mobs of a small number of rabid right wing extremists funded by K Street Lobbyists to disrupt thoughtful discussions about the future of health care in America taking place in Congressional Districts across the country. However, much like we saw at the McCain-Palin rallies last year where crowds were baited with cries of socialist, communist, and where the birthers movement was born these mobs of extremists are not interested in having a thoughtful discussion about the issues but like some Republican leaders have said they are interested in breaking the President and destroying his Presidency.
The numerous libels in that short excerpt are breathtaking. There were no cries of socialist or communist from speakers at Palin rallies. The birther movement was born out of the Hillary Clinton supporter camp.
And if these mendoucheous, leftist gasbags want to accuse every dissenting person who showed up at a Tea Party as being paid by K Street lobbiests then come prove I received any checks.
The stink of fear is strong with these amoral fuckwits.
Dems continue their attacks on the American taxpayer...
Racial Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) says the Tea party protesters are "too well dressed" to be authentic:
Via
HotAir
Boxer claims all of this anger is planned to hurt our president and change Congress.
In true Leftist fashion she cannot comprehend why anyone would be opposed to Obama's socialist economics.
...It has nothing to do with Obama's historic spending, historic unemployment and record deficit and debt. It has nothing to do with government takeover of the health care industry.

Obama's budget will significantly increase public held national debt.
In the long run, Washington is dumping a colossal amount of debt on the laps of our children and grandchildren.
10,903
posted on
08/05/2009 1:06:10 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Because holding town halls with members of
the right-wing mob is exhausting work...
Gulfstream 550It may be the worst recession since the Great Depression but that didn't stop Speaker Pelosi from ordering 3 more deluxe jets for Congressional members to travel to and from Washington DC.
Roll Call reported:
Last year, lawmakers excoriated the CEOs of the Big Three automakers for traveling to Washington, D.C., by private jet to attend a hearing about a possible bailout of their companies.
But apparently Congress is not philosophically averse to private air travel: At the end of July, the House approved nearly $200 million for the Air Force to buy three elite Gulfstream jets for ferrying top government officials and Members of Congress.
The Air Force had asked for one Gulfstream 550 jet (price tag: about $65 million) as part of an ongoing upgrade of its passenger air service.
But the House Appropriations Committee, at its own initiative, added to the 2010 Defense appropriations bill another $132 million for two more airplanes and specified that they be assigned to the D.C.-area units that carry Members of Congress, military brass and top government officials.
Remember: Everyone must sacrifice.
10,904
posted on
08/05/2009 3:17:35 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Ive been wanting to post this July 2009 article, and provide more commentary. I do usually link to several related pieces that relate in my posts in general. But in light of the Obama and media mistruths being spread about the status of the economy, and using stock numbers and fuzzy interpretation of indicators, Im posting this now for you to peruse in its entirety. It paints a less than pretty picture compared to the rosy views being fed to the American citizen by the Oadmin and his puppet media. But surviving economic realities requires removing the rose colored glasses, and preparing ourselves for the best ways to weather thru economic corrections.
Eric Sprott is the Canadian business guru who predicted the banking collapse last year, and is #4 in Canadas top successful investors. Hes one of the few whos
net worth went up over the past five months, thanks to the 30% increase of the value of his controlling stake in mutual fund firm Sprott Inc., parent of Sprott Asset Management. Youll find more of his insight with other articles here.
In our view, the only thing propping this market up is investor sentiment. Earnings have not improved. Keep it simple, stupid investing is and has always been about the real economy, and this market is ignoring the hard data. You can invest in sentiment if you want to, but as we have said before, we prefer to invest in real things.
Eric Sprott, July 2009
So without further adieu, I present to you a more informed perspective, complete with charts, graphs and some real data tough love on whats coming our way. Below is the embed TOCdoc format. However if you prefer, heres a PDF version to download, save
or just for easier viewing.
Read the rest of this entry »
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10,905
posted on
08/05/2009 3:44:45 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Can we have some "Code Blue" women disrupt their congressional hearings and throw red blood around? No, how about big buckets of
monopoly money, while chanting, "Nothing is free!"
Hold the Line | 08.05.09 - 2:41 pm | #
This tacky monstrosity can't belong to Obama, can it?

"Old stuff" I found...
...while looking for "other stuff..."

Still, voters get- and deserve- the kind of government they vote for...
I'm not the first to follow The Lady MacBeth of Little Rock:


The Real Obama Record - Two Faces of Barack Hussein Obama--BARACK OBAMA-- http://www.floppingaces.net/ObamaExposed.pdf




I can remember going to a funeral every four or five days. Now, if you talk to some of these young men, they say, If I do get infected, I will simply take the blue pill or the pink pill, like my friend, he said.
The recklessness of that mentality is indescribable.
But...
but...
I thought AIDS ( anybody remember GRID? ) was "everybody's disease..."
I want you all to consider these charts, and ask just one simple question...
"How is any of this right, or fair?"


I said this a long time ago ( apologies for the bluntness, but it's true ):
"Don't share dirty needles
Don't have anal sex, or sex with those who do...
...and you probably won't catch AIDS."
It's a consequence of damn-fool choices, in the most part.
Take a look at the throne that Obama has installed on his plane, and then notice the embroidery on is chair.

Obama's Throne
Now look closely at the throne, and notice it does not say "For President", but "President".


Obama with Klu Klux Klan leader Robert Byrd who was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops, or leader, of his local chapter. Barack Obama sent an appeal over the Internet urging people to contribute to the re-election campaign of Sen. Robert C. Byrd and has sponsored an amendment with the Exalted Cyclops ....which failed (shocka!)

In this Obama Family photo are: (bottom row, from left) half-sister Auma, her mother Kezia Obama, Obama's step-grandmother Sarah Hussein Onyango Obama, a devout Muslim and unknown; (top row, from left) unknown, Barack Obama, half-brother Abongo (Roy) Obama, .....
Obama's older brother still lives there. Abongo "Roy" Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture." He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.
Obama Jr's grandfather, for whom he was given the middle name, Hussein, was "fiercely devoted to Islam." He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama. The third wife was Sarah, who Obama Jr. refers to as his "grandmother." Sarah became the primary care giver for Senior after his mother, Akuma, left the family when her children were still young. More here
Obama and La Raza
10,906
posted on
08/06/2009 12:54:09 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
NEAL BOORTZ:
Watch what you say in casual conversation.
I invite
no, I URGE you to refer the White House to todays Nealz Nuze. In fact, do it every single day.
Another idea. Take the web address for Linda Douglass little speech and send IT to the White House. You can hardly sound more fishy than that.
Heh.
OUT THE WRECKERS! A roundup of the people spreading disinformation about ObamaCare.
NO FEARMONGERING HERE! New DNC ad: Mobs of right-wing lunatics want to feast on your flesh.
Plus this: No need for outrage, though. Instead, celebrate the fact that even with a Democratic president, a filibuster-proof Congress, and the lure of free ice cream in the form of socialized medicine, the lefts somehow managed to turn ObamaCare into a clusterfark of such epic proportions that their health-care message has now actually been reduced to Dont listen to the Republicans theyre crazy.
Thank goodness we elected a post-partisan President!
Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:56 PM
The_Anchoress

Source
Ill say this for Life Under the Obama Regime, the inclusion of communist-inspired propaganda art has certainly upgraded and enlivened political expression. This is much more captivating (and substantive) than, for example, the played-out Bushian beheadings and vampires. (H/T)
Then there is the spreading Joker, which apparently has been collecting new captions
Art appreciation aside, does anyone remember the recent demonizing of corporate fellows who dared to take private jets to business meetings? Remember how they offended both the president and Maxine Waters, who was so overwhelmed by their evil she had to be calmed down during questioning? Remember how those private jets became emblematic of the larger problems of corporate greed and entitlement, how flying corporate jets was an earth-killer and a devilish misuse of revenue when bottom lines were going red and there were shareholders to answer to? Here we are, just a few months later, and Congress orders three earth-killing private jets, misusing revenue when bottom lines are red and there are taxpayers to answer to.
They dont seem to care about that answering to part.
These elitists commissars are going to shame the rest of the country into mass transit and long lines, while they drive by us in their limos, making the power sign and telling us -between their bites of pate foie gras and sips of bubbly- to keep it real as they are driven to the airport to board their private jets. And there will be countless schlemiels who will stand there on the corner, applauding the elites as they ride by (or perhaps simply trying to keep their hands warm) before going home to write in their diaries (because their blogs are gone) saw Emmanuel pass by in limo! He looked right at me and brought his thumb to his nose, like at the inauguration! The idiots around me gasped and grumbled, because they didnt get it, but I got it, and I felt like such an insider!
Speaking of blogs and computers, Linda Douglass, who used to be a reporter for ABC before she became an Obammunist Propagandist, tells us that there are some people out there with a lot of time on their hands who are using the Presidents own words to spread lies and disinformation on the benevolent Health Care Solution currently being rhammed down our throats. She is urging the other people with a lot of time on their hands to report that first group of liars to the White House, so they can um
correct their thinking.
Anyone recall how, after 9/11 -after wed been attacked in NYC and DC- the Bush Administration said: If you see anything suspicious, you ought to report it, causing conniptions on the left? How dare the Bushies ask people to snitch for security reasons! Now, for mere policy, that has become an acceptable, if you see/hear anything disobedient, be the tattletale.
Man, when they said OBEY they really meant it, didnt they? (H/T)
Lots of double-standards, these days. Remember when Obama told his supporters to get in the faces of non-supporters? Remember when protests and demonstrations were patriotic and grass-roots efforts worthy of some notice and respect? Remember what fake, organized protests look like?
This morning the airwaves were all obediently echoing todays DNC talking points: all the Town Hall protesters and Tea Party folk are fake protesters, who are too well dressed to be real protesters (no jeans or Che shirts, apparently) and all reminiscent of those protesters back during Bush/Gore.
Theyre trying, of course, to hasten back memories of the bad-old-days when Bush did not steal the election (per the NY Times) and regular people would not countenance locked doors, closed shades and weird recounts. I think they should be careful about dredging up those days. Florida may have seen protests by Pale Men in Bermuda Shorts and Socks but Gore and the left did not exactly cover themselves in glory in 2000, either.
Here is a look at these well-dressed fake protesters.
It seems to me the Bushies handled dissent better than the Obamites. If you dont believe me you might find this enlightening
And as to charges of fakery and David-Axelrod-Invented astroturfing (projection, anyone?) at the townhall meetings, I have yet to see anything confirming or proving the allegation that the evil insurance companies are bussing these people in, but I do see that Americans are eager to attend these town halls, which rather belies the charge. The fact that I know ordinary people who have attended some of these meetings not because theyve been organized or bussed in like ACORN protesters, but simply because they heard about a meeting and got off their duffs to attend belies the DNC-approved-Chris-Matthews-embraced narrative,too, but I wouldnt expect anecdotals to convince.
Hmmmm
I wonder if I will be expected to Obey and Inform on them like a good citizen?
Forwarding an email of his own, Obama rallies the troops by crying once again this is our moment!. Sort of like astroturfing or umm..attempting to manufacture support. Allahpundit notes the hypocrisy/creepiness factor
Meanwhile, Rep. Doggett is annoyed that the people who elected him to represent them dare be upset that hes going to vote against their wishes. What do they think this is, after all? A representative democracy, or something?
Finally, I got a comment yesterday that I did not allow, since it broke the rules about threatening me with death. Let me just say that if you are desirous of beating me to death, you are not following the Obama Rules. Youre not supposed to flagellate me. Youre supposed to flag me, and my fishy facts, which are stubborn things.
Go. Inform. Obey.
Related:
Spengler: Dont Wait for Obama to Fail
DISINGENUITY: Think Progress/MSNBC Manufacture smoking gun mob memo
Catholic Key: Wonders if Snitching was what Obama meant on Inauguration Day
Cornyn to the President: Dude! What the Heck?
Daves Top Ten Reasons: Why The Recession Will Last Forever
AP: Oops, our bad, Yes, Obamacare WILL fund abortions Dude, shouldnt lie to the pope
More on: the creepy science czar
Ruth Marcus: Quit lying about raising taxes, Mr. President
Bookworm: What your representatives think of you and Erasing the Past
No, The Recession is not over
Maggies Farm: Self-Flaggelates
Hot Air: 39% need to snitch on 52%
Wesley J. Smith: If Rationing isnt part of Obamacare why is it being pushed so hard?
Dostoevsky: Notes from the Underground.
Quinnipiac: Americans not happy
First Things: Obamacare and Catholic Health
Radio Patriot: Has a roundup
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MORE EVIDENCE THAT Omega 3 fatty acids are good for your heart.
10,907
posted on
08/06/2009 1:29:32 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Yes- next damnfool question?
The absolute hallmark of everything The One's team sets out to accomplish is that those selected to do the job have no experience or expertise in the field. They are political hacks and the positions are political payoffs. It's political patronage, a la Chicago, at its best. It's obvious, to me at least, that they have no interest in making the projects they take on work and work well. Rather, they are interested only in getting control of them and making them over in accord with their personal ideas of what they should be.
We are so screwed unless we find a way to activate the very effective term limits, called elections, provided for us by our Founding Fathers. They gave us everything we need to turn this around and put America back on track. But as long as the ruling class in DC can buy the votes of non-producers by taking at gun point the resources of the producers nothing will change.
Somehow we have got to get producers to the polls in 2010 and fire as many members of the House as we can.
26 posted on
Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:40:53 AM by
jwparkerjr
I went to Hawtlanta a couple of weeks ago. Zero and MJ t-shirts are EVERYWHERE. The Underground has gone to seed....with all of the main clothing chains GONE and filled with street vendors.
Used to be a great place.
Well...
Peggy the Moocher
"If I help him he's gonna help me"
Feel the Tolerance & Inclusiveness...
Myself and friend, both in our 70's, stopped at a convenience store Saturday afternoon for beverage. The store was located about two miles from the center of West Palm Beach, FL. As we left the store, a group of young black males were outside and they said, "f*ck you motherf*ckers, we in charge now."
We said nothing but simply got in the car and dialed 911. The police responded, took our names and explanation, confronted the black males, and a verbal confrontation began. It was over quickly, as the police arrested the ring leader and told the others to leave the area. The arrested boy continued to shout at us with verbal threats and abusive language.
Down the Mississippi: Barack Obama effect ends white rule in Deep South town
"Some youngsters ran into Mr Favas store to taunt him. They was pulling down their pants, shouting, Kiss my black ass, because we got a black mayor, swinging their things around and throwing stuff, said Jennifer Green, 31, a black mother of 10."
Here are a list of calm, reasoned, embarrassing quesations to ask your parasitic whore Congresscritter during your next Town Hall meeting.
Be polite, earnest, and respectful.
1. It was stated in 1965 by Ted Kennedy, in his Immigration and Naturalization Services Act, that "...our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually.... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset..... How do we have any confidence the predictions for this> bill will be any more accurate?
2. According to Reason magazine, "The House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $ 12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was a supposedly "conservative" estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion." How can we be sure the current bill won't turn into the same boondoggle (even the Congressional Budget Office is calling B.S. on Obama's numbers.)
3. The current bill pays for abortion on demand. Will it include a freedom-of-conscience provision for hospitals to exempt them from paying for it?
4. If not, how do you expect to make up for the shortfall of doctors and hospitals when they quit?
5. The current bill pays for abortion on demand. Would this bill have forced Sarah Palin to abort her youngest child, Trig?
6. This bill pays for abortion on demand. Will it pay for other elective procedures such as tummy tucks, teeth whitening, botox, and breast implants?
7. This bill pays for abortion on demand. Given the emphasis on cost containment and prevention, will there be mandatory sterilization of patients who present with three or more pregnancies for abortion in a two-year period?
8. Will this bill cover in-vitro fertilization? For how many attempts, and for how long?
9. Will this bill allow patients to consult with their doctors about using different drugs with similar functions to avoid side effects?
10. How often will this bill review accepted medical treatments for unforeseen side effects (Celebrex, Thalidomide)?
11. How will malpractice be handled? Did you make sure the trial lawyers still get to sue everyone?
12. You have spoken extensively about greedy insurance companies. What is the lifetime deductible and the lifetime limit on benefits? Is it per person or per family?
13. Which pre-existing conditions will be covered, and for what period of time? It does not seem fair to exclude the obese (as has been suggested in Great Britain) but to allow (say) diabetics.
14. Will medical marijuana be covered? What FDA group will handle guarantees of purity, safety, and efficacy?
15. What about methadone and other treatments for narcotic addictions?
16. Will this affect intellectual property rights for pharamceuticals?
17. Will medial tourism (say to Mexico or India) be made illegal?
18. Will the plan cover smokers? Will it cover diabetics? What about sexually transmitted diseases? What guidelines will be put in place to reduce the prevalence of these conditions over time, in order to reduce costs?
19. Will AIDS be covered? How about domestic partners of homosexuals?
20. Will burial or cremation be covered?
21. Will Americans be allowed to participate in the same health plan as Federal Goverment employees?
22. Will Americans be allowed to participate in the same health plan as Congress?
23. Will we at least get health care as good as the terrorists in Guantanamo?
24. Will hospitals still be obligated to provide emergency room care for free to all comers?
25. How do we know our health records won't be pawed through like Joe the Plumber's private records? When was the last time a government bureaucrat lost their job over unauthorized snooping into health records?
26. In 2007, the British government LOST the private data on all British families with a child under the age of 16. How can we have the bureaucrat burned at the stake, drawn and quarterd, hung, fed to the lions, and then REALLY hurt who does this to our data -- note I say "when" not "if".
27. What guarantees do we have against our private data being sent to a Third-World country for processing "to save costs"?
28. How will you protect our private data against identity theft?
29. A June study out of the George Washington University Medical Center says that 10% of the ENTIRE cost of Medicare is fraud: and 80% of that is health care providers. Given that this program is even larger, how can we be sure we are not just pouring money into the pocket of some Congressman's brother-in-law?
30. Is mental health covered under this bill? Because you guys are just freaking NUTS !


At Wednesday's health care forum in Little Rock with Rep. Vic Snyder, Rep. Mike Ross said this to the audience - most of whom were there to show their disapproval with the Obamacare plan:
"I've said this several times but let me see if I can make it a little more clear," Ross said. "I don't represent Speaker (Nancy) Pelosi or President Obama or (House Finance Committee Chairman) Barney Frank."
In order to let you make your own conclusion as to the "truthiness" of Mr. Ross' remarks, I point you to the fact that he voted for the Obama-Pelosi-Frank-backed porkulus and omnibus spending bills in the 111th Congress, the $3.6 trillion budget, as well as the draconian Democrat House rules package which limited Republican ways to debate and amend legislation.
However, he did oppose the cap and tax bill, for which we are grateful.
The more I hear about this, the more I start to wonder if maybe the "birthers" might be right. I confess, when all this began I doubted the validity of their claims, but the more people dig into this, the more I begin to say; you know, I would also like to know about the passport, student loans, and other claims. It might be fairly easy to post another fake Birth claim, but I want to hear from all the people from his past who can show proof of exactly what he was all about through the years.
Here's what they don't get:
- Americans overwhelmingly opposed the bailout - too bad, got it anyway.
- Americans demanded in huge numbers that the stimulus package be stopped - they DID NOT WANT it - too bad, got it anyway.
- Americans raised their voices in protest to the cap and trade bill - too bad, got it anyway.
- Now Americans are screaming from the rooftops STOP THE SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE! - they say too bad, you're getting it anyway.
So now, they they think we have to pay people to protest this treatment? Have they heard even one word the American people have said?
10,908
posted on
08/06/2009 3:05:25 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) proclaimed that those attending health care town hall meetings are "carrying swastikas." You can watch her say it below:
Interviewer: Do you think there's legitimate grassroot opposition going on here? Pelosi: "I think they're Astroturf... You be the judge. "They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare."
If one were to take her at her word, surely the Nutroots (Netroots) would have been all over this story and can corroborate her assertion, right?
Wrong...
I ventured into the fever swamp to find confirmation of the Speaker's allegations. I went to the largest community sites searching for "Swastika." Surely that would turn up confirmation of the Speaker's claim.
Here's what I found...
[Note: Links are to search results that will change over time. Anything dated after 8/5/09 is an after the fact post or comment that would, in effect, be Astroturfing for Pelosi's statement.]
Daily Kos (Stories and Diaries) - 2 results, 1 related. The related report (about defending liberal turf on health care) contains no report of health care protest attendees wearing swastikas. Verdict: No corroboration
Think Progress - 1 result dated back to 2008, unrelated. Verdict: No corroboration
Firedoglake - 3 results, none related. Verdict: No corroboration
Google Blog Search - None related, one post calling B.S., and there was this from a recent Austin, Minnesota immigration reform debate, where an actual member of the Socialist Party is said to have worn a t-shirt with a swastika. Verdict: No corroboration
But finally, the comment sewer at Daily Kos did reap a reward...
Daily Kos Comment Search - Mostly non-related, but there is one comment which appears to be the source of Pelosi's contention. Here we find the one and only reference to someone (a kid) supposedly wearing a swastika to an event in Austin two weeks ago. Verdict: Possible source
With that to go on I found this report about the Austin event. No mention of swastikas in the report, but there was one comment mentioning a sign with swastikas. Verdict: Another possible source
The Daily Kos comment and the Burnt Orange Report comment are ostensibly about the same event but one person supposedly saw a kid with a swastika and another saw a sign. The Burnt Orange Report post indicates that there were only 40 or so protestors. The Burnt Orange Report comment indicates that there was media covering the event, yet none of the media noticed the swastikas? Seems pretty unlikely. More likely the two commenters were embellishing for a crowd (the other commenters) who were all too happy to believe whatever they said.
Aparently comment sections liberal blogs is where the Speaker of the House, number three in line to the Presidency, gets her information.
Verdict: Bullshit
Adrian points out the video here. I made a screen cap...
"I've seen/heard some ridiculous charges (with no proof to back them up) concerning the town hall protests, but this clearly takes the cake."
"Funny to hear her say this, considering at dozens of anti-bush rallies there were pictures of bush and the swastika on the same page."
"Astroturf" means someone else is working behind the scenes. "Swastikas" means that the someone else is a Nazi group. It does not matter to Pelosi whether any swastikas were there, she has made her false little point. ( The Narrative so beloved by the Left and the Press- but then, I repeat mysef'... )
Angry
Liar Nancy Pelosi says the Tea Party Protesters are like Nazis:
"They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare."
Here's
the video from O'Reilly:
Obviously, the Speaker must have meant that the Tea Party Protesters were carrying Marxist signs not Nazi signs but she wouldn't want to repeat that to the media.
Funny how it never bothered the angry liberals when the Left was carrying signs like these at rallies during the Bush years:

10,909
posted on
08/06/2009 7:44:29 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Health Care for America Now and its principles for reform are supported by President Obama, Vice President Biden, and more than 190 Members of Congress. HCAN has more than 1,000 member organizations in 46 states. We are doctors, nurses, community organizations, labor unions, small business owners, faith-based groups, people of color, seniors, and childrens and womens rights groups.
For the complete list of HCAN members, view our membership list.
Our Steering Committee includes: ACORN, AFL-CIO, AFSCME, AFT, Americans United for Change, Campaign for Americas Future, Center for American Progress Action Fund, Campaign for Community Change, Childrens Defense Fund Action Council, Communications Workers of America, International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW), MoveOn.org, NAACP, National Council of La Raza, National Education Association, National Womens Law Center, SEIU, UFCW, USAction, Women's Voices, Women's Vote and Working America.
Holy Cow. That steering committee is a whos who of anti-constitution groups.
Obama Admn to Implement Gvt. 3-shot Flu Program:
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Technology may have outstripped government-controlled media and government-school propaganda, allowing America's ordinary citizens--"We, the People"--using common sense and technology, to figure out that their freedom and liberty are threatened. That's what the so-called Tea Parties are demonstrating. By doing so, those who wish to enslave us through accumulating all power in Washington are meeting strong and unexpected resistance to their massive power grab.
This is what the Founders intended when they structured a government (Constitution) for a free people. It required a vigilant and informed electorate.The following essay, reprinted with permission, is from a 1987 book entitled, "Our Ageless Constitution."
An Enlightened, Committed People Who Understand The Principles Of Our Constitution
- The Most Effective Means Of Preserving Liberty
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"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant - they have been cheated; asleep - they have been surprised; divided - the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it.... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." James Madison America's Constitution is the means by which knowledgeable and free people, capable of self-government, can bind and control their elected representatives in government. In order to remain free, the Founders said, the people themselves must clearly understand the ideas and principles upon which their Constitutional government is based. Through such understanding, they will be able to prevent those in power from eroding their Constitutional protections. The Founders established schools and seminaries for the distinct purpose of instilling in youth the lessons of history and the ideas of liberty. And, in their day, they were successful. Tocqueville, eminent French jurist, traveled America and in his 1830's work, DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA, wrote:
".every citizen ... is taught . the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution ... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon."
On the frontier, he noted that "...no sort of comparison can be drawn between the pioneer and the dwelling that shelters him.... He wears the dress and speaks the language of the cities; he is acquainted with the past, curious about the future, and ready for argument about the present.... I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France' " He continued, "It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contributes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case...where the instruction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education.." Possessing a clear understanding of the failure of previous civilizations to achieve and sustain freedom for individuals, our forefathers discovered some timeless truths about human nature, the struggle for individual liberty, the human tendency toward abuse of power, and the means for curbing that tendency through Constitutional self-government. Jefferson's Bill For The More General Diffusion Of Knowledge For Virginia declared:
"...experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government), those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate...the minds of the people...to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth. History, by apprizing them of the past, will enable them to judge of the future...it will qualify them judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views.."
Education was not perceived by the Founders to be a mere process for teaching basic skills. It was much, much more. Education included the very process by which the people of America would understand and be able to preserve their liberty and secure their Creator-endowed rights. Understanding the nature and origin of their rights and the means of preserving them, the people would be capable of self government, for they would recognize any threats to liberty and "nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud." (Adams) |

Trying to avoid middle class workers opposed to Obamacare, Congresswoman Kathy Castor (D-FL) has schedule a last minute townhall for tonight. Shell be surrounded by union goons from the SEIU to feed middle class voters to alligators if they dare criticize Obamacare.
If you live in the Tampa area, you should show up. Just remember, the union goons are going to do their best to pick fights with you so they can get video for TV a proof that you guys are a mob. Dont let them win, but get your questions asked.
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009 | Time: 6:00pm - 9:00pm | Location: Childrens Board | Street: 1002 E Palm Ave | City/Town: Tampa, FL
10,910
posted on
08/06/2009 11:35:58 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Job Loss Recovery Detail

15 posted on
Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:18:09 PM by
backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
My honest opinion of ARF?

The video of this meeting with AARP is a MUST SEE for everyone in America. Send this out everywhere. Paying members being insulted by some snubby AARP representative...
Alternative to ARF?
ASA
I pseudo-blogged this for years, until I just got burned out:
For Islam, a Religion of Peace®? The Most Damning links-- click the picture:

Watch the videos, read the links, ponder the quotes.
Wake up, and smell the Jihad...
10,911
posted on
08/06/2009 1:54:23 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
You had better start thinking about this, people:
"People in glass houses..."
Just can't let this go. It's funny, really, that the Democrats are so scared. They're shell-shocked. How DARE these people show up to protest the Democrat's biggest power grab since FDR? The ungrateful scumbags! The looters know they have to come up with a story, and the best they can do is to demonize the protestors. They insist on pinning any opposition to healthcare reform as a "mob."
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10,912
posted on
08/06/2009 3:49:14 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
(Brief summary for those lacking video: Dallas AARP meeting went wrong for organizers when participants refused to sit down, shut up, and applaud Democratic talking points. Organizers then left; meeting continued.)
Complete with their quoting Madison and their insisting that AARP worked for them and not the other way around and their refusal to believe that AARP iasnt sucking up to the administration on health care rationing. The sheer nerve of them, acting like they were real, live citizens of both the United States of America and the state of Texas. I mean: theyre all over fifty!
After 6 Months, More View Obamas Presidency as a Failure Than Bushs.
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON: Prairie-Fire Anger. The approval ratings on nearly every one of the Presidents key policy initiativescap-and-trade, health care overhaul, government take over of industry and finance, deficit spending, stimulusare already less than half of polled voters. Obamas own popularity has fallen dramatically and hovers near fifty percent. A number of well-publicized town meetings have erupted in shouting, as administration and congressional representatives try, often in condescending fashion, to explain the Obama agenda. The Republicanswritten off just a few weeks ago as an obsolete party headed for oblivionare now often polling higher in generic surveys than are Democrats. Why the sudden uproar?
By Michelle Malkin August 6, 2009 04:23 PM
My fellow members of The Mob: Barbara Boxer and Robert Gibbs have panned your fashion sense. Accordingly, I have compiled style tips from authentic grass-roots activists to assist you with proper wardrobe choices for your next congressional town hall outings (language warning!).
Dreadlocks, black power fists, and militant berets are de rigeur:

Nothing spells genuine grass-roots like blood-red paint:

Feathers keep it real:

When in doubt, go bullhorns and keffiyeh:

Prove your bona fides through flag desecration:

Profanity = sincerity:

More profanity, with Pelosi-approved swastikas:

Less is more:

If youve got the body, rock a Che bikini:

The ultimate grass-roots accessory
Impeach Bush socks!

And straight from Our Lady of Real Americas closet, argyle and $540 Lanvin sneakers to give you the street cred youve been missing:

***
More fashion advice: Jon at Exurban League has a fantastic sartorial tip sheet on how to Dress for Redress. Check it out!
10,913
posted on
08/06/2009 4:04:27 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
The Dems Will Do Anything to Get Their Government Run Health Care--Including
sending out bogus letters to constituents.
Libertarian Republican reported, via
Atlas Shrugs:
Michigan Democrats sending out bogus letters from constituents claiming to be sick, to support increased Government Health Care Top Party leaders
Top Party leaders blame it on "Overzealous" Young Democrats by Eric Dondero, Libertarian Republican (hat tip Indie Jones)
Oakland County Commissioner Shelly Taub, a Republican, received a letter from a constituent who wrote a very sad letter regarding her lack of health care coverage. The letter writer was begging for help for her "sick child." The Commissioner sprung into action. She did more than a little poking around. In fact, she scoured the entire County to locate the women. What she found didn't quite match what the letter writer had told her. The Oakland Press relays the story in "Dems sent out falsified Letters," Fri, July 3:
She felt like she had failed as a mother cause she couldn't afford health care for her ill son...
"I got this letter and it tore my heart apart" Taub said. "I thought My God... I know many people in health care, I'll get this kid some help."
Taub and her husband searched for information about the woman, found out that she actually lived in Fraser, so Taub called the home phone number and left a message.
Taub said she received a phone call that night from the mother of the woman who sent the letter who informed Taub that her daughter was not married and is a student at the University of Michigan.
The woman who sent the letter explained to Taub that she had recently finished an internship with the Oakland County Democratic Party in Bingham Farms, Taub said. The woman said she and two other interns were given sample letters and told to modify them, change the return address and send them out, Taub said.
Other Republican Commissioners get duped by ScamAnother County Commissioner Sue Ann Douglas, comments in a Guest Editorial in the Oakland County Press "Bogus Letter prompts Commissioner's response" July 30:
An employee of The Oakland County Democratic Party instructed interns to send several bogus letters to commissioners claiming that they were in dire need of health care. Those who decided to send Shelley Taub a letter pleading for help certainly did not know her well.
Shelley would work day and night to find help for a constituent with a sick child, and she immediately tried to contact the young lady who was pleading for help. She discovered that the young lady lived in Macomb County, did not have a child, and the return address on the envelope belonged to an unknowing West Bloomfield Township resident.
No, couldn't be.
Democrats projecting AstroTurfing on Republicans, while doing AstroTurfing?
August 6th, 2009
This press release from the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights is more than a month old.
But it is good to remember who is supporting the nomination of Ms. Sotomayor:

Support Judge Sonia Sotomayor for the U.S. Supreme Court
Advocacy Letter 07/07/09
Source: Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
Recipient: Senate Judiciary Committee
The Honorable Patrick J. Leahy, Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
The Honorable Jeff Sessions, Ranking Member
Committee on the Judiciary
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Chairman Leahy and Ranking Member Sessions:
On behalf of the undersigned organizations, we write to express our support for the confirmation of Judge Sonia Sotomayor as Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. In her seventeen years of service to date as a federal trial and appellate judge, and throughout the course of her entire career, Judge Sotomayor has strongly distinguished herself through her outstanding intellectual credentials and her deep respect for the rule of law, establishing herself beyond question as fully qualified and ready to serve on the Supreme Court.
Judge Sotomayor will be an impartial, thoughtful, and highly-respected addition to the Supreme Court. Her unique personal background is compelling, and will be both a tremendous asset to her on the Court and a historic inspiration to others. Her legal career further demonstrates her qualifications to serve on our nations highest court. After graduating from Yale Law School, where she served as an editor of the Yale Law Journal, Judge Sotomayor spent five years as a criminal prosecutor in Manhattan. She then spent eight years as a corporate litigator with the firm of Pavia & Harcourt, where she gained expertise in a wide range of civil law areas such as contracts and intellectual property. In 1992, on the bipartisan recommendation of her home-state Senators, President George H.W. Bush appointed her District Judge for the Southern District of New York. In recognition of her outstanding record as a trial judge, President Bill Clinton elevated her to the U.S. Court of Appeals in 1998.
During her long tenure on the federal judiciary, Judge Sotomayor has participated in thousands of cases, and has authored approximately 400 opinions at the appellate level. She has demonstrated a thorough understanding of a wide range of highly complicated legal issues, and has a strong reputation for deciding cases based upon the careful application of the law to the facts of cases. Her record and her inspiring personal story indicate that she understands the judiciarys role in protecting the rights of all Americans, in ensuring equal justice, and in respecting our constitutional values all within the confines of the law. Moreover, her wellreasoned and pragmatic approach to cases will allow litigants to feel, regardless of the outcome, that they were given a fair day in court.
Given her stellar record and her reputation for fairness, Judge Sotomayor has garnered broad support across partisan and ideological lines, earning glowing praise from colleagues in the judiciary, law enforcement community, academia, and legal profession who know her best. Her Second Circuit colleague (and also her former law professor) Judge Guido Calabresi describes her as a marvelous, powerful, profoundly decent person. Very popular on the court because she listens, convinces and can be convinced always by good legal argument. Shes changed my mind, not an insignificant number of times. Judge Calabresi also discredited concerns about Judge Sotomayors bench manner, explaining that he compared the substance and tone of her questions with those of his male colleagues and his own questions: And I must say I found no difference at all. Judge Sotomayors colleague Judge Roger Miner, speaking of her ideology, argued that I dont think Id go as far as to classify her in one camp or another. I think she just deserves the classification of outstanding judge. And New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau, her first employer out of law school, hailed her for possessing the wisdom, intelligence, collegiality, and good character needed to fill the position for which she has been nominated.
The undersigned organizations urge you not to be swayed by the efforts of a small number of ideological extremists to tarnish Judge Sotomayors outstanding reputation as a jurist. These efforts have included blatant mischaracterizations of a handful of her rulings, as well as efforts to smear her as a racist based largely on one line in a speech that critics have taken out of context from the rest of her remarks. The simple fact is that after serving seventeen years on the federal judiciary to date, she has not exhibited any credible evidence whatsoever of having an ideological agenda, and certainly not a racist one. We hope that your committee will strongly reject the efforts at character assassination that have taken place since her nomination.
In short, Judge Sotomayor has an incredibly compelling personal story and a deep respect for the Constitution and the rule of law. Her long and rich experiences as a prosecutor, litigator, and judge match or even exceed those of any of the Justices currently sitting on the Court. Furthermore, she is fair-minded and ethical, and delivers thoughtful rulings in cases that are based upon their merits. For these reasons, the undersigned organizations strongly urge you to vote to confirm Judge Sotomayor. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact Leadership Conference on Civil Rights (LCCR) Counsel Rob Randhava at (202) 466-6058, or LCCR Executive Vice President Nancy Zirkin at (202) 263-2880.
Sincerely,
A. Philip Randolph Institute
ACORN
ADA Watch
Advancement Project
Alliance For Retired Americans
American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC)
American Association for Affirmative Action
American Association of People with Disabilities
American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO
American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO)
American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
American Federation of Teachers
Americans for Democratic Action, Inc.
Asian American Justice Center
Campaign for Americas Future
Center for Inquiry
Center for Responsible Lending
DC Vote
Disability Rights Education and Defense Fund
Hispanic Federation
Immigration Equality
International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace & Agricultural Implement Workers of America, UAW
Japanese American Citizens League
Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law
Leadership Conference on Civil Rights
League of United Latin American Citizens
Legal Aid Society-Employment Law Center
Legal Momentum
Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund
NAACP
National Asian Pacific American Bar Association
National Association of Consumer Advocates
National Association of Human Rights Workers
National Black Chamber of Commerce
National Black Justice Coalition
National Coalition for Disability Rights (NCDR)
National Congress of Black Women, Inc.
National Disability Rights Network
National Education Association
National Employment Law Project
National Employment Lawyers Association
National Fair Housing Alliance
National Jewish Democratic Council
National Korean American Service & Education Consortium (NAKASEC)
National Organization for Women
National Minority AIDS Council
National Urban League
NCLR (National Council of La Raza)
People For the American Way
Pride at Work, AFL-CIO
Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
Southeast Asia Resource Action Center (SEARAC)
USAction
U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
Women Employed
What diversity! These arent the usual suspects at all.
And these are the folks our Republican representatives will be voting with.
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August 6th, 2009
As you may have heard by now, the United States Speaker of the House, the number two most powerful elected federal official, Nancy Pelosi, has accused the protesters at Democrat healthcare town halls of carrying swastikas:
Interviewer: Do you think theres legitimate grassroot opposition going on here?
Pelosi: "I think theyre Astroturf
You be the judge. "Theyre carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare."
Of course her mistake may be understandable, especially in view of Mr. Obamas latest logo for his healthcare program:




And it has been suggested that receiving Botox injections can cause blurry vision.
Of course given that she was talking about Democrat town halls, her confusion is even more understandable given the overlap between Nazi programs and Democrats pet issues anyway, as we all know.
The Nazis being: against big banks and capitalism in general, against big department stores, against pollution, for two years mandatory voluntary service to the country, for make-work projects (such as the autobahn), against vivisection and cruelty and to animals, against smoking and all tobacco products, for abortion and euthanasia of the infirm and undesirable and, of course, for cradle-to-grave nationalized healthcare.
In fact, if you look really hard, you can sometimes even find a hint of anti-Semitism in the Democrat Party.
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WARNING: Please be smart, careful and bring cameras when attending Obamacare town halls (
swastikas optional)... But, don't let any thugs keep you away.
The
Obama website is
asking supporters to attend Obamacare town halls during the August recess to counter the massive wave of opposition to government takeover of the health care industry:
Organizing for America, a project of the Democratic National Committee, has even
sent a flyer by e-mail to its campaign list that the DNC wants people to hold as they outshout anyone else in the room.
But that's not all...
The DNC has also recruited labor goons to police the town halls.
The Huffington Post reported, via
LG Links:
The nation's largest federation of labor organizations has promised to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic town halls during the August recess.
In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to the labor community. The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums as ground zero of the health care debate. It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount "Brooks Brothers" protest to rally its members to the administration's side.
"The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall meetings and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home districts," reads the memo. "We want your help to organize major union participation to counter the right-wing "Tea-Party Patriots" who will try to disrupt those meetings, as they've been trying to do to meetings for the last month. ...
(Remember the hooligans - many of them Republican Congressional staff - who harassed Florida vote counters in 2000? We can't let that happen again!)."
A showdown between unions and grassroots conservative organizations could make for an August full of fireworks, with even more dysfunctional town hall meetings. The AFL-CIO is planning to target 50 "high priority districts," in addition to organizing telephone town hall gatherings.
More... Paul in Houston adds this:
If they're going to pull THIS crap, I strongly recommend documenting (with video, as much as possible) all of the occurrences you can, and then going viral with it.
Agreed.
UPDATE: Michelle Malkin-
Thug life: Enter the unions
10,914
posted on
08/06/2009 4:38:42 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Here is what they are going to try to do to silence us at town hall meetings:
1) bring more people to events than we do;
2) arrive earlier than we do and sit up front to be very visible to cameras;
3) study venue staging ahead of time to plan strategy
4) be more visible than we are and situate their signs where cameras are;
5) assign 3-5 people to approach each reporter to shape the narrative;
6) interrupt us and refocus the meeting;
7) dont debate us and prep their side with questions;
8) repetition of their talking points is key to their strategy;
9) organize their own town hall meetings and choose a venue that is difficult for us to attend; put protesters in the back; make us submit questions and select the questions to be asked; collect all signs and leaflets that are not the ones they provided;
10) assign people to greet reporters and enter and leave the meeting with them to minimize the chances we will have to speak to the reporters.
Very interesting- I noted that at least 3 stories of unions being summoned to defend the Left and Duh!Won had surfaced in the last couple of days, and decided it was time to do some research...
do you all remember this from the past?
Don & Terry Adams update:
DON AND TERI ADAMS BACKGROUND: Letter of Trey Mayfield to 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals--There was I time on FreeRepublic when I didn't have to introduce the topic of Don Adams. Other than Whitewater, it was FreeRepublic's first cause celebre.
DON AND TERI ADAMS UPDATE: Rendell's Role in Beating Focus of Civil Rights Hearing
This story, and the old Blood Trail story, were what originally drew me here. It's been quite a ride.
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Aha! Found it!

Three-year-old Sophia Parlock cries while seated on the shoulders of her father, Phil Parlock, after having their Bush-Cheney sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters ( AKA, Union Goon-- note Hat... )
10,915
posted on
08/07/2009 12:50:04 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Welcome to the New Thugocracy ( google it, damn it-- the information is out there for those with the wits to find it ):
She was very pretty underneath her Goth eyeliner, but ... She talked about the excruciating pain of having her feet put in stirrups and seeing the 10 inch instrument forced up into her uterus, and being in such searing pain that they strapped down her wrists and had two nurses hold down her torso as the doctor ripped her baby from her womb. Afterwards she wanted to die. She cut herself with razor blades all over her body and ended up in a psych ward.
GATEWAY PUNDIT: More Carnahan hijinks.
UPDATE: Similar report from Tampa. I got to the public townhall sponsored by Rep. Kathy Castor and the SEIU an hour and a half before the doors were scheduled to open. Apparently, it would not have mattered when I arrived. We stood out in the 90 plus degree weather only to be told that that the hall had been filled through a side door and no one else would be let in. . . . I am upset, like everyone else that showed up, that we were locked out of what was supposed to be a public meeting. On the other hand, I am really proud of my fellow citizens. We represented every age group, every race and ethnic group. Rep. Kathy Castor made it clear that she doesnt represent us. That is okay. Next election, we will find someone who does.
Related: Flag Me.
GATEWAY PUNDIT: More Carnahan hijinks.
UPDATE: Similar report from Tampa. I got to the public townhall sponsored by Rep. Kathy Castor and the SEIU an hour and a half before the doors were scheduled to open. Apparently, it would not have mattered when I arrived. We stood out in the 90 plus degree weather only to be told that that the hall had been filled through a side door and no one else would be let in. . . . I am upset, like everyone else that showed up, that we were locked out of what was supposed to be a public meeting. On the other hand, I am really proud of my fellow citizens. We represented every age group, every race and ethnic group. Rep. Kathy Castor made it clear that she doesnt represent us. That is okay. Next election, we will find someone who does.
Related: Flag Me.
Over 1,000 St. Louis Tea Party Taxpayers showed up at the Russ Carnahan town hall meeting in South St. Louis tonight.
They were Locked Out!
But... The Carnahan staff was sneaking in SEIU members in the side door marked "handicapped."
Here's the video:
In this video you see one Carnahan supporter allowed into the meeting at Bernard Middle School through a side door. There were 1,000 tea party taxpayers stranded outside the main door.
When two SEIU members attempted to get in the same side door marked "handicapped" the crowd went nuts and blocked them at the door. Did you notice how nonchalant the SIEU members were about getting inside the door? Like they knew right where to go.
Look at this turnout--
More... Inside the gym they roped off two sections. One was for the tea party taxpayers and quickly filled up when they opened the doors at 6:00 PM.
The other section was marked
"reserved" and this section was saved for the union members.
The rest of the crowd was locked out!
UNREAL!
The line outside went clear around the front of the building at 6:20 PM- 40 minutes before the start of the meeting. They had already locked the doors.
More... Irate Tea Party "Mob" Breaks Out in Song at Carnahan Town Hall event:
After being locked out of the Russ Carnahan town hall in south St. Louis, the 1,000 strong Tea Party Mob broke out in song outside the meeting. The crowd was not pleased that the Carnahan people were sneaking in union thugs at this door on the side of building.
Check out-- St. Louis Tea Party CoalitionDana LoeschSharp ElbowsReboot Congress for updates.
HOPE & CHANGE...An anti-Obamacare protester was
slapped by a Leftist supporter of socialized health care at a town hall in Florida today:

Karen Miracle
pushes Barry Osteen, right, who was debating her husband, Garry. We have the best health care system in the world and Im completely happy with what we have, Osteen said. (
TampaBay.com)
Obviously, Karen the Leftist did not agree.
Michelle Malkin noted that its not a coincidence that
violence was reported at tea party protests tonight-- the same day that SEIU was recruited by Dems to quash the dissent to Obamacare.
Tampa (Castor) Town hall turns violent!
Obama supporter assaults (slaps) conservative: http://www.tampabay.com/specials...eries/TownHall/ (photos 9-16)
SEIU Thugs guarding door rough up conservative, tearing his shirt and drawing blood from his chest: http://www.wtsp.com/video/defaul....aspx? aid=88415 (4:15 minutes in with old woman shrieking for help)
Interview with the guy attacked afterward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q...h? v=qLpHbD5cy0s
St. Louis (Carnahan) Town hall turns violent!
Group of Obama supporters jump and attack conservatives, 6 arrested. Conservative goes to hospital for injuries:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday...AC? OpenDocument
The important note: NO TOWN HALL WAS VIOLENT until SEIU and AFL-CIO organized labor thugs were called out and became involved. ALL the violence was done against protesters by Obama supporters.
enoxo | 08.07.09 - 1:08 am | #
10,916
posted on
08/07/2009 1:17:53 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
Cant expect anything less, obama was community organized right into the WH. That is all he knows. He is only the front man.
I made a screen capture from the video you linked. I had watched earlier videos posted on You Tube that did not have this great vantage, and in this video I discovered a third goon participating in on the violence. The beefy guy in the white shirt and wearing sunglasses on top of his head was apparently helping out his Cro-Magnon bro wearing the greenish print shirt as they beat on the man outside the room. Here's a face shot of "White Shirt Guy #2" and the back of "Print Shirt Guy":

In post #49 on this thread, I also show face shots of "Print Shirt Guy" and "Older White Shirt Guy". Older white shirt guy grabbed another man in a chokehold while the other two were working the main victim over.
12 posted on
Friday, August 07, 2009 3:33:21 AM by
zipper
Check my posts on the new outbreak of union thuggery:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/833678/posts?page=10916#10916
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2128550/posts?page=1461#1461
Guess Obama meant this for the Union Thugs too....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4
The town hall meetings werent angry mobs until Dear Leader intervened. Now, theyre becoming violent.
Getting in their Faces
Here is what they are going to try to do to silence you:
1) bring more people to events than we do;
2) arrive earlier than we do and sit up front to be very visible to cameras;
3) study venue staging ahead of time to plan strategy
4) be more visible than we are and situate their signs where cameras are;
5) assign 3-5 people to approach each reporter to shape the narrative;
6) interrupt us and refocus the meeting;
7) dont debate us and prep their side with questions;
8) repetition of their talking points is key to their strategy;
9) organize their own town hall meetings and choose a venue that is difficult for us to attend; put protesters in the back; make us submit questions and select the questions to be asked; collect all signs and leaflets that are not the ones they provided;
10) assign people to greet reporters and enter and leave the meeting with them to minimize the chances we will have to speak to the reporters.
If youre prepared to tell the truth, you dont need strategies.
Hard to believe the willing idiots dont see that, isnt it?
Get a load of this
video! Just cherry! Police refusing to allow citizens to talk about health care on the sidewalk...
Can't have you peasants able to fight back, can we?
10,917
posted on
08/07/2009 2:52:17 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
10,918
posted on
08/07/2009 4:12:20 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
** RAW VIDEO from Missourah blog:
From the video:
Two of those were arrested on suspicion of assault, one of resisting arrest and three on suspicion of committing peace disturbances. Carnahan was gone when the ruckus started.
Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with Don't tread on me printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.
It just seems there's no freedom of speech without being attacked, he said.
Six people were arrested outside the Russ Carnahan town hall event on Thursday after thugs attacked tea party protesters.
The Post-Dispatch reported:
St. Louis County police say six people were arrested. Two of those were arrested on suspicion of assault, one of resisting arrest and three on suspicion of committing peace disturbances. Carnahan was gone when the ruckus started.
Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with Don't tread on me printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.
It just seems there's no freedom of speech without being attacked, he said.
Carnahan reserved a section at the event for union supporters.
He
blocked the 1,000 tea party protesters from entering the event and even had his supporters enter in a side door.
10,919
posted on
08/07/2009 4:58:33 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
To: All
10,920
posted on
08/07/2009 5:12:51 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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The more I think about Boxers (my Senators!) comments about protesters, the more angry I get about it. My husband and I are struggling to hold on to jobs in a state which should offer a model of everything that is wrong with socialist policies. I prefer to ignore politics. I never donated to a campaign before I donated small amounts to Sarah Palin, at real sacrifice. Ive never been to a town hall meeting or political protest, but I definitely am one of those eager to go now. And my elected representative has the gall to dismiss my concerns as the self-interest of paid lobbyists!
Speaking of Palin, it makes me feel the same way that the vilification of Sarah Palin does, since I identify with her so much: To see what the elites really think of me. That goes both ways. I no longer patronize the media sources who did that, and I really dont have to put up with it from my elected representatives.
Mob Alert!... Russ Carnahan Town Hall Meeting Thursday in St. Louis County
The St. Louis Tea Party Coalition has the details:
Bernard Middle School,
1054 Forder Road in south St. Louis County
(near 270 & Lemay Ferry Exit)
7:00 PM doors open at 6:00 PM
Hat Tip Jim J.
BTW there was an ad put out by the DNC characterizing Tea Party protests as "right-wing mobs," and at the end they included the phone number of the RNC for people to call and yak.
The phone number for the DNC is 202-863-8000. Yak back. I called this evening, but of course the voicemailbox is full. Ha! I imagine.
Here's the ad.
3 Cheers for Michael Steele-- RNC Chair Redirects Unhinged Lib Callers to DNC Switchboard
(Flickr)
Brilliant. Michael Steele was not about to let angry lib kooks leave unhinged messages for the RNC. Instead he redirected their calls to the DNC switchboard.
The Washington Independent reported that Steele was behind the scheme:
We are all reading Alinsky now.
Thanks Code Pink and ACORN for showing us what tactics to use!
Remember, Dissent is patriotic!"
Now, they're well-dressed mobsters organized and financed by a shadowy conspiracy.
The Democrats are in complete panic mode, aren't they? Good.
Tom W. | 08.06.09 - 2:27 am | #