The "Jesus Family Tomb:" One More Gnostic Onslaught

American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family, and Property ^ | 3/2/2007 | Luis Sergio Solimeo

[senorita]

Oops! Trigger finger hit the darn thing twice!

[OpusatFR]

In the early 20th C physicists said there was nothing else to add. Guess what....along come Einstein.

If you think we know all the laws of physics, I would suggest you think again.

[somemoreequalthanothers]

Quite the contrary, I agree wholeheartedly. We have much to learn.

However, the mortal body will not survive outside the realm of earth, that much we know.

[jmaroneps37]

Mohamed was a roadside robber who put together to greatest scam in history. Tell them make a tv show questioning the "bodily ascension" into heaven of Mohamed and I'll watch both of those shows. Until then what they are doing is merely cowardly profiteering.

[Iscool]

Simply that the mortal body does not survive outside the confines of this earth. As I said in a prior post, God does follow His own laws. My point was that, if Christ ascended, it would have been his spirit and not the mortal body leaving this plane.

Apparently you failed to read, or chose not to believe that the human body of Jesus was changed...Glorified...His body went to heaven...

Just as the bodies of Christians will change, be resurrected and move on off into outer space at the appointed time...

Like the book says, "He's not here, He's risen"...You won't find any evidence of Jesus on the planet earth, yet...

[OpusatFR]

"We have much to learn."

"...mortal body will not survive..."

That's a pretty definitive statement which belies your belief that "we have much to learn."

Either you know it all, or you are just blowing smoke out your ears. ( -;

[somemoreequalthanothers]

If you disagree with my statement, far be it from me to convince you otherwise. Have a good day.

[Bigg Red]

I'm not a Christian, but the believers should realize that Christ would not have ascended with his mortal body.

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It does not seem logical, I realize, but we believe, nevertheless, that that is exactly what happened. We also believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus was also taken into heaven with her mortal body. Miracles are usually outside our understanding of scientific principles.

I apologize for the rude comments that you have received from some here, as I do not believe that you were trying to mock our beliefs.

[Bigg Red]

Don't forget the DaVinci Code was "just" a book and "just" a movie...the saga continues.

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And the myths it spawned will continue to be believed, just as the fictional story about Pope Pius helping Hitler and the silly story about a female pople have now become truth to many ignorant people.

We must pray for the failure of these attacks on the Faith.

[Iscool]

It does not seem logical, I realize, but we believe, nevertheless, that that is exactly what happened. We also believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus was also taken into heaven with her mortal body. Miracles are usually outside our understanding of scientific principles.

Let's not confuse fact with fiction...

AS YOU know, there is no biblical record of Mary going anywhere...There is however, a biblical record of Jesus bodily ascending to heaven...

You should make it clear that when there is no biblical record of things such as the ascension of Mary, it falls under Catholic mythology...

[Bigg Red]

...ascension of Mary...

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I apologize for not specifying that I meant RC when I referred to what "we" believe. And, in the Catholic tradition, Mary's Assumption is definitely not fiction.

[D-fendr]

the laws of physics are. We can choose to believe them or not, I suppose.

Two different categories. Physics and Metaphysics.

The spirit only resurection view has been raised long before and rejected, mostly because of the eyewitness accounts. So it's not held by Christianity. "You can choose to believe them or not."

:)

[Gene Eric]

Those who attack Christianity do so out of hate. To the contrary, Christians look upon those who hate with pity.

Christians should neither be spiritually insulted nor should they support the media tools used to injure the Christian Faith.

Remember, there's the expectation that "Christians will be foolish enough to pay for a movie that insults them".

Would you see a movie or read a book that was created specifically to insult someone you love? Worse yet, would you pay for it as well?

[Gene Eric]

>> I state what the laws of physics are. We can choose to believe them or not, I suppose.

I doubt an expert in the field of physics would question the ascension of Christ and not for the reasons that seem obvious.

[rdl6989]

What do Islam, the Da Vinci Code, and this latest hype have in common? They all have some derivation from Gnosticism.

Hype is right. The whole thing is bogus and experts are saying so. It's a waste of film and I don't plan to waste time watching it.

[unspun]

Yes, it's been apparent Gnosticism's Knights Templar (hence Masonic Lodge, Skull and Bones, etc.) and RC gnosticism were Satan's scheme for diverting Europe, as Arabia almost completely diverted with Mohammedanism.

And the Jews had their cabalism, for those not content to carry on with a sacrifice-less shell of Torah-only belief.

[Madeleine Ward]

If this guy is going to dispute Cameron's claims, then he needs to be factual as well.

The canon was NOT established by the end of the second century.

And unfortunately, Paul contains lots of Gnostic elements and themes. The Jesus Tomb isn't any kind of gnostic onslaught.

[SunkenCiv]

thanks go to GoLightly and xcamel for compiling the list (thus far) of such topics, and to whomever started the handy keyword:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=jesustomb

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