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US Bishops Dig-in on Threats Against Religious Liberty: USCCB Statement on HHS Mandate
Archdiocese of NY ^ | March 14, 2012 | Timothy Cardinal Dolan

Posted on 03/15/2012 11:16:39 AM PDT by NYer

Statement of the USCCB on HHS Mandate

The following press release was issued today by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops on the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Mandate.

BISHOPS PROMISE TO CONTINUE ‘VIGOROUS EFFORTS’ AGAINST HHS VIOLATIONS OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IN HEALTH CARE REFORM MANDATE

Declare government has no place defining religion, religious ministry
Seek protection for conscience rights of institutions, individuals
Stress action with the public, White House, Congress, courts

WASHINGTON—The U.S. bishops are strongly united in their ongoing and determined efforts to protect religious freedom, the Administrative Committee of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) said in a March 14 statement.

The Administrative Committee, chaired by Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York, president of the USCCB, is the highest authority of the bishops’ conference outside the semi-annual sessions of the full body of bishops. The Committee’s membership consists of the elected chairmen of all the USCCB permanent committees and an elected bishop representative from each of the geographic regions of the USCCB.

The full statement can be found at: www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/upload/Admin-Religious-Freedom.pdf

The Administrative Committee said it was “strongly unified and intensely focused in its opposition to the various threats to religious freedom in our day.” The bishops will continue their vigorous work of education on religious freedom, dialogue with the executive branch, legislative initiatives and efforts in the courts to defend religious freedom. They promised a longer statement on the principles at the heart of religious freedom, which will come later from the bishops’ Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty.

The bishops noted that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) mandate that forces all private health plans to provide coverage of sterilization and contraceptives – including abortion-inducing drugs – called for an immediate response. Of particular concern, they said, are a religious exemption from the mandate that the bishops deem “arbitrarily narrow” and an “unspecified and dubious future ‘accommodation’’’ offered to other religious organizations that are denied the exemption.

The bishops thanked supporters from the Catholic community and beyond “who have stood firmly with us in our vigorous opposition to this unjust and illegal mandate.”

“It is your enthusiastic unity in defense of religious freedom that has made such a dramatic and positive impact in this historic public debate.”

The bishops said this dispute is not about access to contraceptives but about the government’s forcing the Church to provide them. Their concerns are not just for the Catholic Church but also for “those who recognize that their cherished beliefs may be next on the block.”

“Indeed, this is not about the Church wanting to force anybody to do anything; it is instead about the federal government forcing the Church – consisting of its faithful and all but a few of its institutions – to act against Church teachings,” they said.

The Church has worked for universal healthcare in the United States since 1919, they added, and said the current issue “is not a Republican or Democratic, a conservative or liberal issue; it is an American issue.”

The bishops called the HHS mandate “an unwarranted government definition of religion,” with government deciding who is a religious employer deserving exemption from the law.

“The introduction of this unprecedented defining of faith communities and their ministries has precipitated this struggle for religious freedom,” the bishops said.

“Government has no place defining religion and religious ministry,” they said.

“If this definition is allowed to stand, it will spread throughout federal law, weakening its healthy tradition of generous respect for religious freedom and diversity,” they said.

The bishops said the government’s foray into church governance “where government has no legal competence or authority” is beyond disturbing. Those deemed by HHS not to be “religious employers,” the bishops said, “will be forced by government to violate their own teachings within their very own institutions. This is not only an injustice in itself, but it also undermines the effective proclamation of those teachings to the faithful and to the world.”

The bishops also called the HHS mandate “a violation of personal civil rights.” The new mandate creates a class of people “with no conscience protection at all: individuals who, in their daily lives, strive constantly to live in accordance with their faith and values,” the bishops said. “They too face a government mandate to aid in providing ‘services’ contrary to those values – whether in their sponsoring of, and payment for, insurance as employers; their payment of insurance premiums as employees, or as insurers themselves – without even the semblance of exemptions.”

The bishops called for the Catholic faithful, and all people of good will throughout the nation to join them in prayer and penance “for our leaders and for the complete protection of our First Freedom – religious liberty.”

“Prayer is the ultimate source of our strength,” the bishops said, “for without God we can do nothing. But with God all things are possible.”



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; hhs; obamacare; usccb; zerocare

1 posted on 03/15/2012 11:16:44 AM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 03/15/2012 11:18:01 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer
Please Mr. President......please take out this one page in your 2000 page health care plan. Once you've done that, we can all go back to rooting for socialism.

Sincerely,

the Catholic leadership

3 posted on 03/15/2012 11:22:08 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: NYer

The bishops must publicly excommunicate *ALL* politicians and public figures who claim to be Catholics and have publicly opposed the church on Abortion, Birth Control, and Homosexuality.

Until then, their “digging-in” is just a tempest in a teapot.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 11:24:01 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: NYer

Whatever the bishops need to say has to be a lot stronger than this article.


5 posted on 03/15/2012 11:27:09 AM PDT by Rapscallion (The best way to enforceObama's "fairness" is Socialist tyranny.)
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To: Notary Sojac
Once you've done that, we can all go back to rooting for socialism.

I hope they have learned a lesson about playing both sides of the fence. I understand the concept but sometimes you have to take a stand. And not just when it is your ox being gored.

6 posted on 03/15/2012 11:28:18 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: NYer

I’ve read through the first five responses and all seem to be sarcastically negative. Is this what the church has to look forward to when we are all faciing the assault on our religious liberties?

Divided we fall!!!!! Wake up all you freepers who can not write anything positive about this statement. it is forceful and unyielding in it’s determination to fight against the HHS mandate. It invites all people who are religous to join the fray. If we insist on complaining about past actions rather than asserting our rights at this critical time, then we deserve to be overrun by our illegal government.

Quit complaining and join the fray!


7 posted on 03/15/2012 12:50:21 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: NYer

He wants Catholic hospitals close..

Makes it much easier to implement death panels.


8 posted on 03/15/2012 1:08:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Rapscallion
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9 posted on 03/15/2012 4:23:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Notary Sojac

Not quite the case. The bishops are beginning to realize how hostile the Administration is to the Church,and to faith-based organizations in general and how much power Sebelius has been given. Michael Barone has pegged Obama right. He aims greatly to limit the role that voluntary organizations—other than the ones he favors, such as Planned Parenthood, play in American life and expand that of government.


10 posted on 03/15/2012 7:14:08 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

If you remember the TV show “St, Elsewhere,” that is the fate he intends for most if not all Catholic hospitals.


11 posted on 03/15/2012 7:16:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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12 posted on 03/15/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by narses
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To: Notary Sojac

“Once you’ve done that, we can all go back to rooting for socialism.”

As a Catholic I hope the bishops prevail; as an American I hope the bishops are forced into the same mess they supported this Bolshevik putting us into.

Barack Obama would not have been elected without the bishops’ complicity; far too many Catholics voted for him, because far too many bishops wouldn’t make it clear they were accomplices in murder by doing so. They did the same with Kerry & Gore, while GW Bush (A Protestant more “Catholic” than many Catholics) was saved by non-Catholic Christians of other denominations.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 3:59:48 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: RobbyS

“The bishops are beginning to realize how hostile the Administration is to the Church,and to faith-based organizations in general and how much power Sebelius has been given.”

The backbone of the Dem Party (teachers’ unions) have been successfully driving Catholic schools out of business for decades, while Catholic hospitals are also being systematically shut down by a government that requires them to treat people regardless of means to pay (or even citizenship) then turns around and reduces the reimbursements for such mandated care. If the bishops are just now “beginning to realize how hostile the Administration is to the Church”, they are incompetent; I’d like to believe that rather than that they are willing accomplices in this melding of the Church with socialism (which has historically been attacked by Popes for it’s inconsistency with Church teaching regarding individual rights).


14 posted on 03/16/2012 4:07:01 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Salvation

GREAT Collection of Info!

Thanks again!


15 posted on 03/16/2012 5:40:13 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: kearnyirish2

The underlying problem is, as Archbishop Chaput, is that so many bishops were reared in Democratic homes. Stunned by the defection of so many Catholic pols after Roe v. Wade, many of them temporized on the issue of abortion, and following the lead of Bernardin, they took the Democratic side on other social issues, nuclear disarmament, etc. They gave cover to pols with the “personally opposed “ excuse, which still mattered to most Catholic voters thirty years ago. But the feminists , the gays and others in the Democratic coalition were unforgiving and refused to give them a place at the table. I dare so without much evidence, that some of the bishops are unfaithful. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I say they were deluded. Still, I was stunned when at the Dallas CYA meeting after the priest scandal broke, that one of their chosen speakers was Margaret Steinfels, editor of the tiny circulation “Commonweal.” If this was the one they turned to for advise, then no wonder they found themselves in the fix they did. BYT that was more than 10 years ago. Now we have a pope who was shaken to the core by the events of 1968. That year about for many things, but certainly for the revolt against “Humanae Vitae.” We lost much of our “officer corps,” and of those who remained to hold episcopal office and to recruit new clergy, not many were first rate.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 7:12:44 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Many bishops deliberately ignored the Vatican’s instructions to make it clear that abortion was paramount among issues during elections; contrast that with how effectively they’ve gotten the word out about Obama’s requirements that they provide birth control.

Most of them have lost their faith; they are not deluded. They’ve made the Church irrelevant in America.


17 posted on 03/17/2012 2:35:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

You are blaming the bishops for things done by the lower clergy. Father Hesbergh, for instance, led the movement to sever the colleges and universities from the episcopacy. There was a virtual mutiny in many dioceses in 1968 after Humanae Vitae was issued. Ditto the many lay commissions that had been set up. For many years, priests entering the seminaries had been told, or at least left to infer, that the rule on celibacy was about to be changed. In many diocese there were in fact too man priests, so that men had to wait well into their forties before they became pastors. As for birth control, I wonder how many women, such as my cousin’s wife, were told by their confessors that the rule on birth control was about to be changed. A major problem in America was that the wave of prosperity that swept the country after WWII caused many Catholics to be restive of the old restraints, and I will admit, the lack of vision among the old brick and mortar bishops with the souls of accountants/politicians, and who did think of a college as just another kind of seminary. The Council, in a way, was no more than an excuse for many restive souls to put the past behind them. The same kind of energy released by the outbreak of war in Europe in 1914.


18 posted on 03/17/2012 5:06:15 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

“You are blaming the bishops for things done by the lower clergy.”

Apparently the bishops can enforce 100% compliance with their reaction to Obama’s attack being read from every pulpit, but couldn’t tell people 4, 8 or 12 years ago that abortion was a paramount issue in the elections? Is that credible to you?


19 posted on 03/18/2012 5:33:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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