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Bishops tell Catholics to disobey 'unjust laws
St. Louis Today ^ | 13 Apr 2012 | David Gibson

Posted on 04/13/2012 12:08:15 AM PDT by Cronos

The nation's Roman Catholic bishops called Thursday for a national campaign in defense of religious liberty, and urged resistance to laws that church officials consider unjust.

...The statement by the bishops' Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty was released Wednesday, and its chief concern is President Barack Obama's proposal to provide contraception coverage to all employees with health insurance, including those who work for religious groups.

The statement includes an explicit threat of widespread civil disobedience by the nation's 67 million Catholics.

"If we face today the prospect of unjust laws, then Catholics in America, in solidarity with our fellow citizens, must have the courage not to obey them," the statement says. "No American desires this. No Catholic welcomes it. But if it should fall upon us, we must discharge it as a duty of citizenship and an obligation of faith."

..."What is at stake is whether America will continue to have a free, creative and robust civil society — or whether the state alone will determine who gets to contribute to the common good, and how they get to do it," the statement says. "This is not a Catholic issue. This is not a Jewish issue. This is not an Orthodox, Mormon or Muslim issue. It is an American issue."


Religious progressives and church-state watchdogs quickly pushed back.

The Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, head of the Interfaith Alliance, argued that while he agrees there are genuine threats to religious freedom, the bishops' fight against contraception coverage means that "the Catholic Church's definition of religious freedom is one that is only concerned with its own beliefs and practices and makes no room for those whose views differ." ..

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bishops; hhsmandate
call to arms...
1 posted on 04/13/2012 12:08:19 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

** call to arms**
About time.

BTW, I see that C Welton Gaddy is a Baptist Preacher from Monroe, LA..What kind of Baptist supports abortions and hangs out with Vicky Gene Robinson? Is he a for real Baptist, or a member of some spin off Baptist organization?

Okay, I looked him up on the internet..
Northminster Church has always been most closely affiliated with the Alliance of Baptists (a movement of progressive Christians — individuals and congregations — seeking to respond to the continuing call of God in a rapidly changing world)

2 posted on 04/13/2012 1:15:30 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Cronos

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops Ad Hoc Committee for Religious Liberty:

“Our First, Most Cherished Liberty”

3 posted on 04/13/2012 1:19:44 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Cronos
4 posted on 04/13/2012 2:15:15 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Cronos

Good for them. I just hope they do it smart and educate their flocks about what makes certain laws unjust in the religious context. Our non-denominational pastor dis a bang-up job of explaining how we obey the governments that God has put over us, but how there are real exceptions and how conflicts with God’s Will and Jesus’s teachings are the basis for disobedience. He also made sure we knew that there are likely to be ramificatins if we decide to put our Faith an d love of Jesus first beocause those making/enforcing the laws do not have the same life value systems...

5 posted on 04/13/2012 4:24:38 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Cronos

Where were the Bishops when Obama was running.Some were supporting his program of social Justice and Universal Health care.
Better late than never...
Now are they going to excommunicate Catholic lawmakers ???

6 posted on 04/13/2012 4:57:38 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Cronos
Religious progressives...

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

IMO people may not have considered that an organization, or group, can come in the name of Christ, or 'preaching' Christ, just as easily as an individual.

7 posted on 04/13/2012 4:59:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cronos
Thanks for the post, Cronos.

Mr. David Gibson of StLToday (a/k/a) pravda) not only poses his 'story' as if Liberty were only religious - a fundamental category error in itself - but also as if he is oblivious to the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence.

The the imagery suggested by Benjamin Franklin for the Great Seal in August 1776:

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. . . whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."


8 posted on 04/13/2012 5:32:09 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Yorlik803

better late than never, yes. Lawmakers who support baby-murders must be excommunicated, full stop. Those who support contraception should be warned — excommunication is a strong punishment.

9 posted on 04/13/2012 6:03:47 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

For a true Catholics it is a death sentence. Being denied the light of Christ for ever.
The scene in “Beckett” when he Excommunicated someone was chilling. When all the Priests tipped over their candles.WOW

10 posted on 04/13/2012 6:15:04 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Cronos

“The Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, head of the Interfaith Alliance, argued that while he agrees there are genuine threats to religious freedom, the bishops’ fight against contraception coverage means that “the Catholic Church’s definition of religious freedom is one that is only concerned with its own beliefs and practices and makes no room for those whose views differ.”

I hate it when Socialists reframe an argument to create a fictional issue.

The issue is forcing Catholics to accept others practices in their OWN Catholic facilities and not Catholics imposing their beliefs OUTSIDE their OWN Catholic facilities.

11 posted on 04/13/2012 6:45:44 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Cronos

“the Catholic Church’s definition of religious freedom is one that is only concerned with its own beliefs and practices and makes no room for those whose views differ.”

That statement is just ignorant in so many ways.

12 posted on 04/13/2012 7:35:15 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Cronos

“If we face today the prospect of unjust laws, then Catholics in America, in solidarity with our fellow citizens, must have the courage not to obey them,” the statement says. “No American desires this. No Catholic welcomes it. But if it should fall upon us, we must discharge it as a duty of citizenship and an obligation of faith.”

If it comes to this, and it very well might, what does that say about the lack of discipline from bishops? I mean, if the American Church refuses to comply, and the public Catholics who publicly supported the mandate are still free to publicly call themselves good Catholics without a dissenting word from bishops? What mesage does that send to ‘regular’ Catholics who are watching?

I mean if it comes to a general Catholic strike and discipline still isn’t tried as a teaching tool, just how big a deal do the bishops think it is? It’s like fighting a fire but not yelling “fire!” or calling the fire dept. It just gives the impression that it really isn’t too big a deal when you get right down to it, as far as I can tell anyhow.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 8:09:31 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Cronos

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14 posted on 04/17/2012 1:49:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Yorlik803
I guess you didn't see this while it was happening.Pro life and anti Obama

Over 100 Bishops Have Spoken Out on Priority of Life Issues
Posted on October 28, 2008, 11:59 AM | Deal W. Hudson
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa
14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
16. Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City
24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald
Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul
Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael
Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M.
Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W.
Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S. Loverde of Arlington
43. Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo of Richmond
44. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester
46. Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson
47. Bishop Robert Herrmann of St. Louis
48. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D. Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A. Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J. Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R. Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V. Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J. Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M. Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J. Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Harrisburg
72-94. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
95-111. Joint Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
112-116. Joint Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
117-126. Joint Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
Added by me
127. Bishop Tobin -- ^
128. Archbishop Wilton Gregory ...
130. Archbishop Elden Curtiss Omaha
131. Bishop Carlson's of Michigan pastoral letter in full, go to:


15 posted on 04/17/2012 1:52:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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