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Viewer Beware: The Exodus Decoded [ Jacobovici response to BAR review]
Biblical Archaeology Review ^ | August 29, 2006 | Simcha Jacobovici

Posted on 08/31/2006 10:25:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

In the second part, he lists what he says are my so-called "discoveries." You would think that the good professor knows how to use the rewind button on his DVD player and confirm statements that he attributes to me. You can find a copy of the transcript of my film at "Simcha's explorations": www.theexodusdecoded.com. A word search can confirm that I claim to "reveal" the meaning of other people's discoveries by providing a new context for looking at various artifacts, inscriptions, mountains etc. The fact is that I never once claim to "discover" anything..

(Excerpt) Read more at bib-arch.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: exodus; exodusdecoded; godsgravesglyphs; jacobovici; jamescameron; simchajacobovici; thera
The review is at the top of the same page. Jacobovici's response seemed like the thing to post, as Ronald Hendel's review isn't too good from any perspective.

1 posted on 08/31/2006 10:25:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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http://theexodusdecoded.com/index1.jsp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=exodus

Tomb May Shed Light On 10th Plague
Boston Globe | 11-23-2004 | Charles M. Sennott
Posted on 11/23/2004 6:11:43 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1287173/posts

Nefertiti's 'Love Affair' With Moses to Hit the Silver Screen
Yahoo News! | Fri Apr 8
Posted on 04/08/2005 4:21:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380126/posts

Moses' Egyptian Name
Biblical Archaeology | 5-30-2003 | Ogden Goelet
Posted on 05/30/2003 11:32:54 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/920412/posts

Egyptian Jurists Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation... of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt
Memri.org | 8/09/03 | Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq
Posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:59 PM PDT by adam_az
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/968120/posts

Biblical Plagues and Parting of Red Sea caused by Volcano
News.telegraph.co.uk | 11/11/02 | John Petre
Posted on 11/11/2002 3:44:06 PM EST by Betty Jane
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/786902/posts

Scientist Defends Account Of Exodus
Washington Post | 4-10-2003 | Richard N. Ostling
Posted on 04/11/2003 1:52:30 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/891225/posts

Mount Sinai Was A Volcano In Saudi Arabia, Says Scientist (Exodus)
The Telegraph (UK) | 6-13-2003 | Roger Highfield
Posted on 06/12/2003 9:15:39 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/928064/posts

Director posits proof of biblical Exodus
The Globe and Mail | 14 April 2006 | Michael Posner
Posted on 04/14/2006 8:58:16 AM EDT by timsbella
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614957/posts

Documentary Sets New Date For Exodus
Jerusalem Post | 7-3-2006 | Etgar Lefkovits
Posted on 07/03/2006 5:26:25 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659872/posts

Late Pleostocene Human Population Bottlenecks. . . (Toba)
The Bradshaw Foundation | 1998 | Stanley H. Ambrose
Posted on 12/16/2005 2:33:44 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541892/posts

New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 07/29/2004 3:25:45 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1180724/posts

The Linear B Tablets and Mycenaean Social, Political, and Economic Organization
Lesson 25, The Prehistoric Archaeology of the Aegean | Revised: Friday, March 18, 2000 | Trustees of Dartmouth College
Posted on 08/29/2004 8:19:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1202723/posts


2 posted on 08/31/2006 10:25:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ancesthntr; blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

3 posted on 08/31/2006 10:26:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Toba and the Exodus?


4 posted on 08/31/2006 10:33:44 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Nope, I included that link (there are oodles of Exodus-related topics, most of which are not about THE Exodus) because it also involves volcanic eruption.

An Extra! to the Digest, topics on the Exodus.
Gods Graves Glyphs Digest #110a 20060828
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5 posted on 08/31/2006 10:57:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Five that were missed, added today.
Biblical Plagues and Parting of Red Sea caused by Volcano
  Posted by Betty Jane
On News/Activism 11/11/2002 3:44:06 PM EST · 73 replies · 4,692+ views


News.telegraph.co.uk | 11/11/02 | John Petre
Biblical plagues and parting of Red Sea 'caused by volcano' By Jonathan Petre, Religion Correspondent (Filed: 11/11/2002) Fresh evidence that the Biblical plagues and the parting of the Red Sea were natural events rather than myths or miracles is to be presented in a new BBC documentary. Moses, which will be broadcast next month, will suggest that much of the Bible story can be explained by a single natural disaster, a huge volcanic eruption on the Greek island of Santorini in the 16th century BC. Using computer-generated imagery pioneered in Walking With Dinosaurs, the programme tells the story of how...
 

Moses' Egyptian Name
  Posted by blam
On News/Activism 05/30/2003 2:32:54 PM EDT · 16 replies · 886+ views


Biblical Archaeology | 5-30-2003 | Ogden Goelet
Moses' Egyptian Name Ogden Goelet The history of Israel begins with its enslavement in Egypt. Israel is defined in opposition to everything Egyptianóthey are powerful, Israel is weak; they are rich, Israel is poor; they have many gods, Israel has one. Isnít it ironic, then, that the greatest Hebrew prophet and lawgiver, the man who single-handedly organized the Israelites and led them out of Egypt, has an Egyptian name? And his name is not just any Egyptian name, itís a religious Egyptian name. Mosesí name reflects basic Egyptian religious beliefs that are, in truth, not as different from Mosaic Judaism...
 

Debate Erupts Anew: Did Thera's Explosion Doom Minoan Crete?
  Posted by blam
On News/Activism 10/23/2003 5:47:33 PM EDT · 82 replies · 609+ views


International Herald Tribune | 10-23-2003 | William J. Broad
Debate erupts anew: Did Thera's explosion doom Minoan Crete? William J. Broad Thursday, October 23, 2003 For decades, scholars have debated whether the eruption of the Thera volcano in the Aegean more than 3,000 years ago brought about the mysterious collapse of Minoan civilization at the peak of its glory. The volcanic isle (whose remnants are known as Santorini) lay just 110 kilometers from Minoan Crete, so it seemed quite reasonable that its fury could have accounted for the fall of that celebrated people. . This idea suffered a blow in 1987 when Danish scientists studying cores from the Greenland...
 

Tomb May Shed Light On 10th Plague
  Posted by blam
On News/Activism 11/23/2004 9:11:43 PM EST · 81 replies · 3,215+ views


Boston Globe | 11-23-2004 | Charles M. Sennott
Tomb may shed light on 10th plague By Charles M. Sennott, Globe Staff | November 23, 2004 LUXOR, Egypt ó Out of the blinding light of a fall morning here in the Valley of the Kings, American archeologist Kent Weeks led the way down a narrow, stone passageway and into the entrance of a tomb. Weeks peered his flashlight into the enveloping darkness of ëëthe hidden tomb,íí as he calls it, and pressed on through the damp, winding passages toward what may be his archeological teamís most significant find after years of methodical digging, scraping, and brushing. At the end...
 

Nefertiti's 'Love Affair' With Moses to Hit the Silver Screen
  Posted by nickcarraway
On News/Activism 04/08/2005 7:21:11 PM EDT · 207 replies · 3,883+ views


Yahoo News! | Fri Apr 8
CAIRO (AFP) - A Hollywood flick on an alleged love affair between pharaonic Queen Nefertiti and the Biblical Prophet Moses is soon to begin shooting in Egypt, renowned British producer John Heyman has revealed to AFP. "Nefertiti married perhaps one of the first monotheists in history and the film will tell their story, which logically enough should be set in Egypt" said Heyman on a brief visit to Cairo. "One can find in the Old Testament that Moses and Nefertiti had a relationship," he added. The movie will also deal "with the return to the worship of the sun god,"...
 

Viewer Beware: The Exodus Decoded [ Jacobovici response to BAR review]
  Posted by SunkenCiv
On General/Chat 08/31/2006 1:25:09 PM EDT · 4 replies · 54+ views


Biblical Archaeology Review | August 29, 2006 | Simcha Jacobovici
In the second part, he lists what he says are my so-called "discoveries." You would think that the good professor knows how to use the rewind button on his DVD player and confirm statements that he attributes to me. You can find a copy of the transcript of my film at "Simcha's explorations": www.theexodusdecoded.com. A word search can confirm that I claim to "reveal" the meaning of other people's discoveries by providing a new context for looking at various artifacts, inscriptions, mountains etc. The fact is that I never once claim to "discover" anything..
 

6 posted on 08/31/2006 11:06:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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'You can find a copy of the transcript of my film at "Simcha's explorations": www.theexodusdecoded.com.'

Maybe you can, but I couldn't.


7 posted on 08/31/2006 11:16:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I clicked the link in Google, and the History Channel / A&E web store no longer carries the item. (?) Amazon does.


8 posted on 08/31/2006 11:18:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Moses' Comet
9 posted on 08/31/2006 1:19:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
Quite a debate going on between these two. I happened to watch most of this show and found it interesting. Maybe I can catch a re-run and watch the whole thing.

Thanks for the tsunami of links/information. It will take some time to have a thorough looksee. Well done as usual.

FGS

10 posted on 08/31/2006 9:09:29 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: SunkenCiv

This is scary stuff. Gee, one would think there is a deluge of
" let's discredit Christianity" if one didn't know better! :-)


11 posted on 08/31/2006 9:14:47 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: blam

Excellent, I forgot about that one.


12 posted on 08/31/2006 10:08:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ladyinred; Ancesthntr
Heh. Yeah, lucky we know better. (not) I just read more of Simcha's rejoinder, and found this interesting, to the point that I now am dying to see the video.
Simcha Jacobovici responds to Professor Ronald Hendel's review, "Viewer Beware: The Exodus Decoded"
August 29, 2006
...Prof. Hendel says that I claim, "the Biblical Jacob and Joseph were Hyksos rulers." Is his scholarship so sloppy generally or only when it comes to the lowly art form called film? I never state that Jacob was a Hyksos ruler. Anywhere. Ever. The Bible makes no such claims and I make no such claims. What I do point to with respect to Joseph – not Jacob - is a royal Hyksos seal with the name "Yakov'Har" on it. I argue that since the Book of Genesis claims that "Yosef ben Yakov" was second in command to Pharaoh, this could be Joseph's royal seal. One would expect to find Joseph's father's name on the seal... As Prof. Hendel knows, Egyptian royal seals allow for a doubling up of the last letter of the first word to also act as the first letter of the second word. Scholars accept that the "Yakov'Har" inscription can also be read "Yakov B'Har." They generally think this means "Jacob of the mountains." But what anyone who attends daily synagogue services knows (or at least services on the High Holidays) is that the Orthodox prayer service repeats a Biblical formula that reads "Yakov B'Har, Israel le Sgulato." Which means God chose Jacob/ Israel as his special one. So what we have in the "Yakov B'Har" seal is a unique seal, with no parallel in Egyptian royal seals, dating to the beginning of the Hyksos period, that can be read "Jacob is God's chosen." If Prof. Hendel wants to argue this, that's his prerogative. But it doesn't help to misquote me by stating that I claim that Jacob was a king of Egypt.

13 posted on 08/31/2006 10:11:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
While I think Simcha Jacobovici's analysis of the Exodus plagues, parting of the sea, and mountain are all interesting, if not persuasive, I think his analysis of the gold Mycenaean artifact as a depiction of the Ark is simply wrong. If you watch the documentary, take a close look at the original gold artifact before the camera pulls away and it is replaced by the computer generated copy. You'll notice three distinctly Minoan/Mycenaean columns (rounded crown with tapered column) of the sort found in Mycenaean buildings. What he's showing looks pretty clearly to be to be the depiction of a typical Minoan or Mycenaean building, possibly a temple, with characteristic horns found at Knossos and elsewhere on the roof. The birds don't strike me a cheribim, either. I also think his interpretation of the fleet frescoe from Akrotiri is a stretch and the grave stones at Mycenae could simply be depicting the Theran tsunami from the Greek side and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Exodus. Frankly, I don't understand why he feels so compelled to tie the Exodus to the Minoans and Mycenaeans who were clearly pagans and no monotheists. Of course my disagreement over his interpretation of the Minoan and Mycenaean evidence in no way detracts from the rest of the presentation.
14 posted on 09/01/2006 12:47:18 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
The birds don't strike me a cheribim, either. I also think his interpretation of the fleet frescoe from Akrotiri is a stretch and the grave stones at Mycenae could simply be depicting the Theran tsunami from the Greek side and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Exodus. Frankly, I don't understand why he feels so compelled to tie the Exodus to the Minoans and Mycenaeans who were clearly pagans and no monotheists. Of course my disagreement over his interpretation of the Minoan and Mycenaean evidence in no way detracts from the rest of the presentation.

I agree wholeheartedly - especially with the birds on top of the Ark of the Covenant. The Bible is very specific that is is cherubs (cherubim), which would manifestly NOT be in the form of an animal (despite the wings). This artifact depicts something else.

15 posted on 09/01/2006 10:47:11 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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Herschel Shanks and Simcha Jacobovici debate (not bad, not bad at all):

http://www.bib-arch.org/bswbOOexodus.html


16 posted on 09/02/2006 10:10:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks go to GoLightly and xcamel for compiling the list (thus far) of such topics, and to whomever started the handy keyword:

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Jesusí burial site found - film claims
  Posted by Rb ver. 2.0
On News/Activism 02/23/2007 8:50:36 AM EST · 311 replies · 8,784+ views


ynetnews.com | 2/23/07 | Ariella Ringel-Hoffman
The cave in which Jesus Christ was buried has been found in Jerusalem, claim the makers of a new documentary film. If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history. The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene will be displayed for the first time on Monday in New York. Jointly produced by Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and Oscar winning director...
 

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On Religion 02/23/2007 1:54:39 PM EST · 28 replies · 1,626+ views


YNET NEWS | 02.23.07 | Ariella Ringel-Hoffman
Jesusí burial site found - film claims New film documents discovery of Jerusalem cave containing ten caskets believed to hold remains of Jesus, Mary, Mary Magdalene and others Ariella Ringel-Hoffman Published: 02.23.07, 10:26 / Israel Culture The cave in which Jesus Christ was buried has been found in Jerusalem, claim the makers of a new documentary film. If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history. The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the...
 

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  Posted by aculeus
On News/Activism 02/24/2007 12:14:06 PM EST · 278 replies · 5,391+ views


The Daily Telegraph (UK) | February 24, 2007 | By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem
In a scene worthy of a Dan Brown novel, archaeologists a quarter of a century ago unearthed a burial chamber near Jerusalem. Inside they found ossuaries, or boxes of bones, marked with the names of Jesus, Joseph and Mary. Then one of the ossuaries went missing. The human remains inside were destroyed before any DNA testing could be carried out. While Middle East academics doubt that the relics belong to the Holy Family, the issue is about to be exposed to a blaze of publicity with the publication next week of a book. Entitled The Jesus Tomb and co-written by...
 

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  Posted by Roberts
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Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity. In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith--and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene. No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true. Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in...
 

Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
  Posted by Havok
On General/Chat 02/24/2007 5:25:18 PM EST · 21 replies · 970+ views


Time | February 23, 2007 6:55 | Tim McGirk
Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity. In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene. No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true. Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building...
 

James Cameron Tries to Kill Jesus
  Posted by Flavius
On General/Chat 02/25/2007 7:41:22 AM EST · 44 replies · 1,944+ views


laist | 2/24/07 | na
r at least he's trying to kill the story of Jesus' resurrection. An upcoming 90-minute documentary directed by Jewish Canadian filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and produced by Titanic director James Cameron makes the startling assertion that Jesus was never resurrected -- a cornerstone of Christian faith -- and that his burial cave was discovered in the Jerusalem suburb of Talpiyot some 27 years ago. One more thing, Jesus fathered a son with Mary Magdelene. Cameron and Jacobovici claim they have DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies on their side. And on Monday, Cameron will hold a press conference in...
 

Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
  Posted by alice_in_bubbaland
On News/Activism 02/25/2007 10:51:06 AM EST · 20 replies · 1,380+ views


Time Blog/ Middle East | 2/23/07 | Tim McGirk
Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity. In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene. No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.
 

Jesus Family Tomb Believed Found
  Posted by steadfastconservative
On Religion 02/25/2007 1:33:09 PM EST · 51 replies · 1,328+ views


Discover News | Feb. 25, 2007 | Jennifer Viegas
New scientific evidence, including DNA analysis conducted at one of the world's foremost molecular genetic laboratories, as well as studies by leading scholars, suggests a 2,000-year-old Jerusalem tomb could have once held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth and his family. The findings also suggest that Jesus and Mary Magdalene might have produced a son named Jonah. The DNA findings, alongside statistical conclusions made about the artifacts--originally excavated in 1980--open a potentially signficant chapter in Biblical archaeological history. A documentary presenting the evidence, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," will premiere on the Discovery Channel on March 4 at 9 pm...
 

New film claims Jesus buried in Talpiot [Chief Archeologist says it's "nonsense"]
  Posted by Mount Athos
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 6:59:41 AM EST · 43 replies · 1,334+ views


Jerusalem Post | Feb. 25, 2007 | DAVID HOROVITZ
The Israeli-born, Canadian-based filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici is reigniting claims, first made over a decade ago, that a burial cave uncovered 27 years ago in Talpiot, Jerusalem, is the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth and his family. [...] But Bar-Ilan University Prof. Amos Kloner, the Jerusalem District archeologist who officially oversaw the work at the tomb in 1980 and has published detailed findings on its contents, on Saturday night dismissed the claims. "It makes a great story for a TV film," he told The Jerusalem Post. "But it's impossible. It's nonsense." Kloner, who said he was interviewed for the new film...
 

Jesus Family Tomb Talking Points
  Posted by Gamecock
On Religion 02/26/2007 7:15:48 AM EST · 147 replies · 1,752+ views


Gamecock
I'm sure that by now all of you have heard about the claim that the ossuary of Christ's family has been found. I would like to open a thread that will help us develop answers to friends, both Christians and atheists who might come to us with questions about it all. Please feel free to post your rebuttals for others to use! Biblical, rational, scientific, philosophical, whatever you can come up with is more than welcome!
 

What is the Truth?
  Posted by Teufilo
On Religion 02/26/2007 7:53:41 AM EST · 7 replies · 108+ views


Vivificat! News, Opinions, Commentary, Reflections, from a personal Catholic perspective | 26 February 2007 | Teufilo
Folks, much as I am tempted to jump into the fray regarding James Cameron's and Simcha Jacobovici's (the Naked Archaeologist) documentary which purports to debunk the Lord's Resurrection, well, I will not. For I had promised that I would refrain from those kinds of posts because of Lent. Tempted as I am, I'll keep my promise. The debate is raging throughout the blogosphere, granting Cameron and Jacobovici a lot of free publicity. Every year during Lent someone somewhere comes out with some new "discovery" purporting to debunk Jesus and the Church. Last year it was the so-called Gospel of Judas....
 

Titanic Blasphemy
  Posted by Keli Kilohana
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 8:14:37 AM EST · 25 replies · 1,628+ views


Charleston Gazette Forums | 2/26/2007 | Pastor Terry Hagedorn
James Cameron and Simcha Jacobivici claim to have raided the lost tomb of Jesus. Proof? There are related people in a graveyard with the uncommon names Joshua, Mary and Martha! Oi vey! Despite the faith of a millions of people in the Gospel (I Corinthians 15:3,4 -- the death, burial and resurrection of Christ for our salvation) and despite the fact that the resurrected Christ was seen and touched by his disciples, all twelve Apostles, over 500 hundred witnesses -- at one time; and, despite the fact that devout Jews changed the day of worship from the seventh day to the first day of...
 

Scholars, clergy slam Jesus documentary
  Posted by Mr. Brightside
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 10:39:12 AM EST · 50 replies · 1,327+ views


Yahoo | 2/26/07
Scholars, clergy slam Jesus documentary By MARSHALL THOMPSON, Associated Press Writer 35 minutes ago JERUSALEM - Archaeologists and clergymen in the Holy Land derided claims in a new documentary produced by the Oscar-winning director James Cameron that contradict major Christian tenets. "The Lost Tomb of Christ," which the Discovery Channel will run on March 4, argues that 10 ancient ossuaries -- small caskets used to store bones -- discovered in a suburb of Jerusalem in 1980 may have contained the bones of Jesus and his family, according to a press release issued by the Discovery Channel. One of the caskets...
 

Tomb of Jesus doc uproar
  Posted by Clive
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 11:07:03 AM EST · 50 replies · 1,562+ views


AP via Sun Media | 2007-02-26 | Marshall Thompson
JERUSALEM (AP) -- Archaeologists and clergymen in the Holy Land derided claims in a new documentary produced by the Oscar-winning director James Cameron that contradict major Christian tenets. "The Lost Tomb of Christ," which the Discovery Channel will run on March 4, argues that 10 ancient ossuaries -- small caskets used to store bones -- discovered in a suburb of Jerusalem in 1980 may have contained the bones of Jesus and his family, according to a press release issued by the Discovery Channel. One of the caskets even bears the title, "Judah, son of Jesus," hinting that Jesus may have...
 

Cameron defends Jesus tomb documentary
  Posted by Clive
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 11:41:03 AM EST · 113 replies · 2,669+ views


CTV News | 2007-02-26 | (staff)
Oscar-winning director James Cameron defended on Monday his controversial new documentary, which claims that Jesus may have been buried with a wife and son, against charges the film was trying to undermine Christianity. Instead, the documentary that claims the discovery of the tomb of Jesus Christ and his family celebrates their existence, Cameron said at a press conference announcing the documentary "The Lost Tomb of Jesus." The message that Jesus delivered 2,000 years ago resounds even today, Cameron said. "My feeling is that his message of compassion, humility, love and forgiveness is every bit as much needed now in this...
 

I've found the coffin of Jesus, says film director
  Posted by Anti-Bubba182
On News/Activism 02/26/2007 3:47:38 PM EST · 78 replies · 1,962+ views


This Is London | 25.02.07 | Staff
The Lost Tomb of Jesus, made for the Discovery Channel, will be shown in the U.S. this week and later in Britain by Channel 4. Today, Cameron is holding a press conference on what he describes as 'one of the greatest archaeological finds of all time'. Crucially, he is not denying the resurrection - as there were no bones in the caskets. But the £2million film still strikes at the foundation of Christianity in the same manner as the novel The Da Vinci Code, by Dan Brown, in claiming that Jesus married and had a family. His theory, which has...
 

Your Faith is in Vain, Dr. Crossan
  Posted by NYer
On Religion 02/26/2007 4:46:25 PM EST · 23 replies · 372+ views


web.mac.com | February 25, 2007 | Fr. Jay Scott Newman
The Resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ by Piero della Franscesca, c. 1463-65 The Discovery Channel will announce this week the completion of a new documentary called 'The Jesus Family Tomb', produced by none other than James Cameron of Titanic fame. The program narrates the discovery in 1980 of a burial spot in Jerusalem that contained 10 ossuaries (boxes of bones) which some have claimed hold the mortal remains of, among other, Jesus, his mother Mary, and his disciple Mary Magdalene. This sort of thing is by now sadly familiar to a world in which The DaVinci Code is taken...
 

Scorn poured on Director's 'Coffin of Christ' theory (James Cameron-Archeologists/Scholars Dispute)
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On News/Activism 02/26/2007 5:03:46 PM EST · 78 replies · 1,533+ views


Evening Standard | 02/25/2007
Scorn poured on James Cameron's 'coffin of Christ' theory Archaeologists and biblical scholars have poured scorn on a Hollywood film director's sensational claim that he has discovered the coffin of Jesus Christ. Oscar-winning 'Titanic' director James Cameron's assertion that the bones of Jesus and his family were hidden for centuries in a Jerusalem tomb caused an outcry in the Holy Land. Even a British archeologist who worked with Cameron, Dr. Shimon Gibson, admitted he's "sceptical" about the claims that challenge some of the central tenets of Christianity. The very fact that Jesus had a grave would contradict the Christian belief...
 

Archaeologists, Scholars Dispute Jesus Documentary
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On News/Activism 02/26/2007 6:05:33 PM EST · 19 replies · 456+ views


CNN | 2-26-2007
Archaeologists, scholars dispute Jesus documentary POSTED: 2151 GMT (0551 HKT), February 26, 2007Filmakers and researchers claim these stone boxes may have once contained the remains of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. JERUSALEM (AP) -- Filmmakers and researchers on Monday unveiled two ancient stone boxes they said may have once contained the remains of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but several scholars derided the claims made in a new documentary as unfounded and contradictory to basic Christian beliefs. "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," produced by Oscar-winning director James Cameron and scheduled to air March 4 on the Discovery Channel, argues that 10 small...
 

The Lost Tomb Of Christ -- Believable or Baloney?
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On News/Activism 02/26/2007 6:11:23 PM EST · 50 replies · 1,121+ views


Yahoo News & Associated Press | February 26, 2007 | Marshall Thompson
JERUSALEM - Archaeologists and clergymen in the Holy Land derided claims in a new documentary produced by the Oscar-winning director James Cameron that contradict major Christian tenets. "The Lost Tomb of Christ," which the Discovery Channel will run on March 4, argues that 10 ancient ossuaries -- small caskets used to store bones -- discovered in a suburb of Jerusalem in 1980 may have contained the bones of Jesus and his family, according to a press release issued by the Discovery Channel.
 

Documentary Shows Possible Jesus Tomb (Did They Attack Islamic Belief, Too?
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On News/Activism 02/26/2007 6:50:03 PM EST · 72 replies · 1,196+ views


CBS News | 2/26/07 | Karen Matthews
Filmakers and researchers on Monday unveiled two ancient stone boxes they said may have once contained the remains of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but several scholars derided the claims made in a new documentary as unfounded... ...Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem who was interviewed in the documentary, said the film's hypotheses holds little weight... Pfann is even unsure that the name "Jesus" on the caskets was read correctly. He thinks it's more likely the name "Hanun." Ancient semitic script is notoriously difficult to decipher... William Dever, an expert on near eastern...
 

Israel may open 'Jesus tomb' to public
  Posted by NYer
On News/Activism 02/27/2007 8:53:46 AM EST · 55 replies · 1,013+ views


Jerusalem Post | February 27, 2007 | ETGAR LEFKOVITS AND DAVID HOROVITZ
Israeli authorities say they are prepared to consider opening to the public a 2,000-year-old burial tomb in Jerusalem's East Talpiot neighborhood which is said by the makers of a new documentary to have likely been the final resting place of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother, partner Mary Magdalene, son, and other members of his family. The Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA), responsible for the tomb - which was first uncovered during construction of the neighborhood in 1980 - said it would be up to the Jerusalem Municipality to make such a decision. And municipality spokesman Gidi Schmerling told The Jerusalem Post...
 

Cameron the Infidel
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On News/Activism 02/27/2007 9:23:45 AM EST · 31 replies · 1,019+ views


Redstate.com | 27 February, 2007 | .cnI redruM
James Cameron has truly moved beyond making sappy movies about ocean liner wrecks. He can now lay claim to being an idolater of the rankest order. Relying upon Pope Benedict to turn the other check in accordance with misinterpreted scripture, Cameron has accused the Gospels of inventing the resurrection the way Michael Moore does documentaries. 'TITANIC' director James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici, a filmmaker-archaeologist, are set to unveil three coffins this week that they say are those of Jesus, Mary and Mary Magdalene. In an coming documentary, Cameron and Jacobovici cite "scientific evidence" that the resurrection of Jesus never happened...
 

THE SAFE FAITH TO INSULT
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On News/Activism 02/27/2007 9:31:51 AM EST · 51 replies · 1,213+ views


NY Post | February 27, 2007 | MARK GOLDBLATT
'TITANIC' director James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici, a filmmaker-archaeologist, are set to unveil three coffins this week that they say are those of Jesus, Mary and Mary Magdalene. In an coming documentary, Cameron and Jacobovici cite "scientific evidence" that the resurrection of Jesus never happened and that Jesus fathered a son named Judah with Mary Magdalene. Such claims should, and surely will, be met with overwhelming skepticism. For example, the filmmakers use DNA tests to build their case - but whose DNA is being compared with whose? Did they swab the Holy Ghost? -snip- But prominent Christian clergymen won't issue...
 

THE JESUS TOMB? ëTITANICí TALPIOT TOMB THEORY SUNK FROM THE START
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On Religion 02/27/2007 3:40:42 PM EST · 32 replies · 748+ views


BenWitherington | February 27, 2007 | Ben Witherington
Talpiot tomb Remember the tale of the Titanic? How it was supposed to be impregnable, and nothing could poke holes in it? How it would never be sunk? Well all I can say is that human hubris knows no bounds, and that hasnít changed in the last century. On April 15th 1912 the supposedly leak proof Titanic rammed into an iceberg and sank -- sank like a giant stone. Sank quickly, with great loss of life. Why do I bring this up? Because in one of the interesting ironies in recent memory, James Cameron the movie director who made the enormously successful...
 

Unintentionally HILARIOUS Quote By Larry King About "The Lost Tomb Of Jesus"
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On News/Activism 02/27/2007 7:56:55 PM EST · 49 replies · 1,685+ views


Larry King Show | February 26, 2007 | Larry King
"Simcha, if what you're purporting here is true, not as a pun, is this the end of the Easter Bunny?"
 

The "Jesus Family Tomb' story: Old News, No News
  Posted by truthfinder9
On Religion 02/28/2007 9:26:10 AM EST · 11 replies · 198+ views


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Every Easter season the anti-Jesus crowd comes out of the woodwork creating some "controversy" about Jesus. This latest one, like many, is years old and was dusted off for the latest round of baseless attacks on Jesus' historicity. Historian Paul L. Maier explains further: Thanks for the profusion of e-mails Iíve received over the last two days regarding the Talpiot tombs discovery in Jerusalem, a.k.a., 'the Jesus Family Tomb' story. Some of you also suggested that 'life seemed to be following art' so far as my A Skeleton in Godís Closet was concerned. Believe me, this is not the way...
 

Christ 'Coffin' Empty (Review of 'Lost Tomb of Jesus': Al Caponeís vault has met itís match)
  Posted by dead
On News/Activism 02/28/2007 10:58:26 AM EST · 37 replies · 1,416+ views


NY Post | February 28, 2007 | Adam Buckman
AL Capone's vault has met its match. I'm no scientist, but after watching a bunch of people who are scientists sift through the dust and bones of a 2000-year-old family burial chamber in Jerusalem, I have to offer this unscientific conclusion: There ain't no way them bones belong to Jesus. Or, if they are his bones, they don't come anywhere near proving it in "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," the Discovery Channel documentary that is supposed to rock Christianity to its very foundations. Well, I have some good news for Christianity: Your foundations are safe. Why were they going to...
 

'Cameron's Coffin' is 2007 Easter Attack(Anti-Christianity: The last safe bigotry!)
  Posted by kellynla
On News/Activism 02/28/2007 11:35:47 PM EST · 28 replies · 534+ views


worldnetdaily.com | February 28, 2007 | staff
The Discovery Channel should cancel a scheduled airing of a film about a purported Jerusalem grave of Jesus Christ, and should apologize for presenting such "an unsubstantiated claim," according to family values organizations. Robert Knight, director of the Media Research Center's Culture and Media Institute, told WND that the film, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus," is just the 2007 version of an annual attack on Christianity right around the time of Easter, the time at which the Christian church remembers Jesus' Resurrection. "It always seems to happen just before Easter," he said. "It's as if there's a script going around,...
 

Tomb of the (Still) Unknown Ancients: More Jesus hype of the "Da Vinci Code" type.
  Posted by maryz
On News/Activism 03/02/2007 10:39:39 AM EST · 21 replies · 613+ views


OpinionJournal.com | March 2, 2007 | Ben Witherington III
Year after year in spring, a new crop of religious dandelions pop up in our post-Christian culture. Like the real ones growing in my yard, they make a colorful splash that briefly captures our attention, until we realize that they are only shallow-rooted weeds, not beautiful flowers planted long ago in the deep rich soil of the past, such as Easter lilies. Last year, it was the Gnostic nonsense of the "Da Vinci Code." We've had the "Gospel of Judas Iscariot," written centuries after the eyewitnesses were dead. This year it's a variation on the "Da Vinci" theme. We are...
 

Discovery Channel puts off Jesus documentary telecast [in India]
  Posted by Alex Murphy
On Religion 03/02/2007 1:21:28 PM EST · 5 replies · 156+ views


India eNews | March 02, 2007
Roman Catholics in the metropolis Friday called off their protest against the proposed screening of a controversial documentary on Jesus Christ after broadcaster Discovery Channel decided not to telecast the programme in India. The Catholics in the city had earlier sprung into action against the worldwide premiere 'The Lost Tomb of Jesus' that claims to show the burial place of Jesus challenging the basic tenets the Christian faith. 'The Lost Tomb of Jesus' is a feature documentary, directed by Emmy Award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and produced by Oscar-winning director James Cameron of the 'Titanic' fame, Flex Golubev and Ric...
 

Sinking Credibility: The media and the bones of Jesus
  Posted by presidio9
On News/Activism 03/02/2007 4:18:35 PM EST · 51 replies · 1,222+ views


Townhall | Thursday, March 1, 2007 | Chuck Colson
Director James Cameronís follow-up to his Oscar-winning Titanic was a documentary about the wreckage of the doomed ship. The film contained so many shots of Cameron in a deep-sea submersible that one critic named him 'Captain Nemo.' Well, Captain Nemo has surfaced again. In an upcoming Discovery Channel special, Cameron claims to have found an ossuary containing the bones of Jesus. How does he know? Through a combination of Sesame Street and The DaVinci Code. The ossuary is inscribed 'Joshua, son of Joseph' -- names that are not exactly rare among first-century Jewish males. So Cameron also points out the nearby ossuaries...
 

The "Jesus Family Tomb:" One More Gnostic Onslaught
  Posted by Pyro7480
On Religion 03/02/2007 9:43:36 PM EST · 38 replies · 357+ views


American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family, and Property | 3/2/2007 | Luis Sergio Solimeo
By Luis Sergio Solimeo It just does not stop. Following in the footsteps of The Da Vinci Code, the Gnostic offensive against Christianity is forging ahead with new pretexts, and, once again, with massive media coverage. The New Onslaught: Archeological FictionThis time, it is not a pseudo-historic novel,1 but a pseudo-scientific Discovery Channel documentary, titled: The Lost Tomb of Jesus, which was directed by James Cameron and Simcha Jacobovici.  The two are well-suited for the task.  Mr. Cameron is a science fiction2 fan, while Mr. Jacobovici could be considered an archeological fiction aficionado. Four years ago, he produced another...
 

Don't insult one's religion -- unless it's Christianity
  Posted by lightman
On Religion 03/02/2007 9:44:06 PM EST · 17 replies · 263+ views


The Ottawa Citizen | John Robson
John Robson The Ottawa Citizen Friday, March 02, 2007 Well, it's Lent, when Jesus-debunking news stories rise from the dead. This time it's a tomb with the whole family gathered, including his wife and kid. Unless it's just the dusty bones of decency and good sense in those boxes. In a way it's a backhanded tribute that, to the modern mind, Christianity is like a train wreck: gruesome, but they can't look away. Newspapers don't greet major Buddhist festivals with claims that Siddhartha Gautama was a cokehead, or open Ramadan by saying Mohammed was -- (do NOT fill in this...
 

Jesus found during Lent? How nice for ratings
  Posted by wagglebee
On News/Activism 03/03/2007 3:37:49 PM EST · 16 replies · 447+ views


The Virginian Pilot | 3/3/07 | Kerry Dougherty
Wait one blessed minute. A Hollywood filmmaker wants us to believe he's found the bones of Jesus - who walked the earth 2,000 years ago - yet we still can't find Jimmy Hoffa, who's only been gone about 32 years? Please. And no one can locate Amelia Earhart - she went down with a plane, for heaven's sake - yet producer James Cameron and crew claim they can identify the dusty inhabitants of an ancient Jerusalem tomb. People with common names, by the way. Then again, millions of us believe the whole exercise is futile because Jesus left no earthly...
 

The Lost Tomb of Jesus: A Response to the Discovery-Channel Documentary Directed by James Cameron
  Posted by DaveTesla
On News/Activism 03/03/2007 4:50:03 PM EST · 25 replies · 878+ views


Dr. Gary R. Habermas | Dr. Gary R. Habermas
Jesus Burial Tomb? Recently, questions have been raised regarding the historicity of the death and resurrection of Jesus. These issues emerged from the directorial genius of James Cameron and is entitled, "The Lost Tomb of Jesus." This new Hollywood-quality documentary is set to air March 4th, 2007 on the Discovery Channel. However, this documentary is poorly supported by the historical and scientific data, regardless of how well the film has been made. Good TV, Bad History & Science "[The Lost Tomb of Jesus] will make good TV but involves a bad critical reading of history. Basically, this is old news...
 

If James Cameron Were Honest About His "Discovery" (Jesus's tomb)
  Posted by do the dhue
On News/Activism 03/03/2007 11:25:37 PM EST · 45 replies · 1,358+ views


FNC | 3/3/7 | Father Jonathan Morris
This week 'Titanic' director James Cameron and Canadian television director, Simcha Jacobovici stood proudly at the New York City library to announce the release of a new book and documentary called 'The Tomb of Jesus.' They claim to have uncovered the remains of Jesus and his family, including Mary Magdalene, (Jesusí supposed wife) and their child, Judah. If he were honest, this is what Mr. Cameron would have said to the press: 'My dearest friends in the media, Thank you for being here. I must admit, I am pleasantly surprised so many of you have come. Our public relations company...
 

Jesusís tomb? Letís bury that idea straight away
  Posted by MadIvan
On News/Activism 03/04/2007 10:42:00 AM EST · 40 replies · 1,176+ views


The Sunday Times | March 4, 2007 | Martin Wroe
It is the greatest newspaper story ever told, and it was told again last week. In New York the Oscar-winning film-maker James Cameron pulled back a curtain to reveal two cream-coloured limestone coffins, flown in from Jerusalem. One of them, he said, had once held the recently crucified body of Jesus of Nazareth. Another -- there are 10 in the set -- had held that of Mary Magdalene.'It doesnít get bigger than this,' he said, and then claimed it did. He had evidence that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had married and that another coffin -- or 'ossuary' -- had contained...
 

The Lost Tomb of Jesus
  Posted by truthfinder9
On Religion 03/06/2007 4:17:24 PM EST · 4 replies · 120+ views


str.org
We saw the documentary yesterday thanks to an advance copy from The Discovery Channel, and our Amy has read the book released in conjunction. We've seen all their evidence. Simcha Jacobivici, the documentarian, has been saying in interviews that theyíre just connecting the dots. Iíd say itís more like first arranging the dots to get a certain picture and then connecting them. Their reasons for arranging the dots in their particular order is full of speculation at each step. They tell a coherent and affecting story to account for the information, but thereís no rationale for why that story is...
 

Making Lemonade Out of Lemons: Using the Talpiot Tomb as a Witness
  Posted by Ottofire
On Religion 03/06/2007 6:05:05 PM EST · 6 replies · 75+ views


Alpha and Omega Ministries | 5 March 2007 | James White
It is the morning after. Those with an interest in the subject of the resurrection have already seen the film. As most of you know, today I launch into a high-spoeed book writing project to attempt to collect, collate, and present in a clear and understandable fashion the main arguments and facts regarding the Talpiot Tomb, DNA, patina, statistics, gnostic writings and the like. But at best, that book will not be out until Easter. So how about today? Rather than hope no one will ask you what you think, I believe we should be on the offensive---without being offensive....
 

What James Cameron doesn't know about resurrections
  Posted by SirLinksalot
On News/Activism 03/07/2007 5:09:33 PM EST · 60 replies · 1,174+ views


WorldnetDaily | 03/06/2007 | Jim Rutz
People have been coming back from the dead by the hundreds during the past 15-20 years. All over the world, stone-cold-dead people are being resurrected by the fervent, focused prayers of Christians praying in the name of Jesus. By now, the totals are likely over a thousand. No exaggeration, no joke. My own book "Megashift: Igniting Spiritual Power" documents 52 countries where at least one person has been raised from the dead -- with named eyewitnesses ... who have street addresses ... and phone numbers ... and fax numbers ... and e-mail addresses. I even throw in a few photographs....
 

False Tombs and Gnostic Tales
  Posted by dvan
On News/Activism 03/08/2007 1:10:34 PM EST · 8 replies · 503+ views


Crossroad.to | March 2007 | Berit Kjos
False Tombs and Gnostic Tales Mocking the heart of Christianity "Last year, it was the Gnostic nonsense of the 'Da Vinci Code.'... This year it's a variation on the 'Da Vinci' theme. We are not only being told that there was a Mrs. Jesus (aka Mary Magdalene). We are also informed that her tomb and that of Jesus have been found in Jerusalem; that DNA testing has proved that they are not related and so must have been married (how exactly does it prove that?)... In a surreal moment on 'Larry King Live' earlier this week, the film's producer, James...
 

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