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[Connecticut] Bishops: Don't Make Catholic Hospitals Perform Abortions
Westport.patch.com ^

Posted on 04/22/2012 11:10:14 AM PDT by Pyro7480

...[S]ome Democratic candidates for U.S. Senate said they'd favor the concept of a federal law requiring even Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Now, the state's Catholic bishops are objecting.

...[They] issued a statement expressing their dismay after all five Democratic candidates said during Sunday's "Face the State" debate that they would support legislation forcing Catholic hospitals to perform abortions.

"If it is their [the candidates'] position that our hospitals should be forced by law or regulations to provide abortions in spite of our teaching, it is unfortunate to note their readiness to violate religious liberty"...

Here are some excerpts of the answers:

Susan Bysiewicz: "The federal government has the right to regulate what services are provided, because Catholic institutions, colleges and universities get funding from the federal government, and I believe that those institutions should provide access to reproductive health care."

Chris Murphy: "They certainly have the ability to decide what services they perform."

Matthew Oakes: "If they're gonna take our money—I'm Roman Catholic—then they need to perform the health care issues that women need performed for them."

William Tong: "Access to an abortion should be open and available. Acess to contraception, the same thing. These are basic liberties enshrined in our Constitution, in our jurisprudence. That's a fact. [...] I think we need a cooperative approach. We had a bill in the state Legislature to provide emergency contraception. It was called Plan B. [...] Now Plan B is a reality. Emergency contraception is made available to patients at Catholic hospitals. We just need to find a way to make it work."

Lee Whitnum did not answer the question about whether the federal government must force Catholic institutions to provide abortion or contraceptive services. She said she supported institutions providing them.

(Excerpt) Read more at westport.patch.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: bishops; connecticutbishops; ct; hhsmandate
Pure evil...
1 posted on 04/22/2012 11:10:15 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Admin Moderator; Sidebar Moderator
I forgot to link to the source I excerpted from: Bishops: Don't Make Catholic Hospitals Perform Abortions
2 posted on 04/22/2012 11:12:09 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Pyro7480
They will try to make Catholic hospitals perform abortions.

They will force Catholic churches to perform gay marriages.

3 posted on 04/22/2012 11:12:51 AM PDT by eCSMaster (Conservative patriots, Rise up!)
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To: Pyro7480

That’s what the Progressive are reaching for-—no religion other than the government. The tide has reach our shores, and I’m afraid we are not going to recover without the help of devine intervention.


4 posted on 04/22/2012 11:15:26 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: Pyro7480

Close them down. Do not sell them, Do not rent them to someone else to run, Just close the doors and walk away.

These people are driving catholics into caves like the Romans did.

Obama was right,. This is not a Christian Country any more.


5 posted on 04/22/2012 11:16:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pyro7480

What will the citizens of the cities and areas say when the catholic church starts shutting these hospitals down!

They did it with Catholic charities already, I believe.


6 posted on 04/22/2012 11:16:18 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


7 posted on 04/22/2012 11:19:40 AM PDT by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Pyro7480

“Then they came for the Catholics

But I was not a Catholic...”


8 posted on 04/22/2012 11:22:53 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: Venturer

“Close them down. Do not sell them, Do not rent them to someone else to run, Just close the doors and walk away.”

I would like to see the Bishops say that this is what they will be forced t do and will do should the Government require them to provide abortions.

Mel


9 posted on 04/22/2012 11:23:08 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: Pyro7480
This is a “win-win” situations for the Communist Party USA.Either the Bishops buckle (*highly* unlikely) or they shut them down.That's the single wettest of an American Communist's wet dreams....no Catholic hospitals.
10 posted on 04/22/2012 11:23:43 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Venturer
Close them down. Do not sell them, Do not rent them to someone else to run, Just close the doors and walk away.

That will never happen. They will just change their names like Catholic Healthcare West did when Bishop Olmstead reprimanded them for providing abortions.

11 posted on 04/22/2012 11:25:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (You mean we have a choice between M.R. and B.O.?)
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To: eCSMaster
They will try to make Catholic hospitals perform abortions.
They will force Catholic churches to perform gay marriages.

The Church should, if necessary,
transfer all patients out, close the ER,
then raze the hospitals to the ground

Than to submit this Mortal Sin

"Gay Marriage" is a non-sequitor
Sanctifying Acts, in defiance of the Seven Laws of Noah,
is an Abomination

12 posted on 04/22/2012 11:33:06 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Pyro7480

They can’t force them to perform abortions. They can, however, force them to close their doors, which will of course result in back-alley births, heart surgery, and mammograms...


13 posted on 04/22/2012 11:40:32 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: eCSMaster
I don't think so -- remember that 100 percent of the Bishops came out against this HHS mandate.


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14 posted on 04/22/2012 12:08:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HangnJudge

Barry Goldwater refused to vote the for the Civil rights act, because of its public accommodations provisions. Not mere do it implement the 14th Amendment; it gave the government power to coerse private parties to end discriminatory practices. The laws aimed to guarantee blacks the same rights as other American citizens, but by extension it has come to include any other group identified as a “minority,” which is to say, any group which has suffered from social discrimination in the past. Ironically, no groups has more suffered from discrimination than the Catholic Church, not even the Jews. But if the choice bet made between Catholics and gays, for instance, the prejudice against Catholics ,outweighs that against gays.


15 posted on 04/22/2012 12:17:55 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Pyro7480

Shouldn’t it be, “Catholic hospitals will NOT perform abortions”?


16 posted on 04/22/2012 1:54:03 PM PDT by Student0165 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Venturer

If the Church were to do what you suggest the local govts would either assess the properties for taxes or use eminent domain to take the properties with minimum compensation. It would be better to sell the properties to real estate developers to build malls condos or cineplexes.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 2:52:49 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Pyro7480

Is it any wonder that Pew has Obama trailing 57/37 with Catholics now? The campaign hasn’t even started. How bad will it get by November with candidates like this?
NO DEMOCRAT has EVER lost the Catholic vote and won the general election. Obama has dropped 17 points with Catholics since 2008 and cardinal Dolan is just getting started.
This will be fun to watch.


18 posted on 04/22/2012 2:54:10 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Pyro7480
Was looking for the 'or else. . ." No; not there.

What might one otherwise expect from those whose religion is Marxism/Communism. . .who are devotees of Mao; and Alynsky? Those who have sympathies with Stalin/Hitler; Fidel and Hugo and the 'Sun' family of North Korea?

We know you cannot get 'blood' from a turnip; but still; why does anyone imagine 'good' from those who share the common root of evil; in that they are compelled to deny others the freedoms they personally believe are theirs to claim - by a Divine Right - that they do not believe in; and who live in a world where 'values' have no value; virtue no virtue?

What might one honestly expect of a man; who cares not a whit about Judeo/Christian Faith and heritage; nor it's future.

"Earth to all citizens who vote"; with a special notation to Catholics/Christians/Jews. . .

19 posted on 04/22/2012 3:09:19 PM PDT by cricket ( It is not just 'the economy' and Newt knows it. . .)
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To: Pyro7480

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd


20 posted on 04/22/2012 3:12:25 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: jmaroneps37
NO DEMOCRAT has EVER lost the Catholic vote and won the general election.

That may be true since the Civil War. I doubt they have good information for voting by Catholics before the influx of Irish and German Catholic immigrants in the 1840s and 1850s. The older Catholic populations in places like Maryland, Kentucky, and Louisiana were probably too small to matter. The winning Democratic candidates before the Civil War--Jackson, Van Buren, Polk, and Buchanan--all lost Maryland, and all carried Louisiana. Buchanan carried Kentucky--the others lost it because of Henry Clay, not because of the Catholic vote. By 1856 Irish Catholic immigrants may have been voting in some numbers--Buchanan lost New York and Massachuetts, where a lot of them had settled, but I would guess for other reasons.

21 posted on 04/22/2012 3:21:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

Forgot Franklin Pierce. He carried Maryland and Louisiana, but lost Kentucky.


22 posted on 04/22/2012 3:23:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Joshua Marcus

And the person who made the pivotal move to first establish that government death-cult religion that even Catholic hospitals have to obey was Mitt Romney - the same day that the Boston Globe published an article applying pressure.

So the GOP-e is in the process of nominating a candidate who will bend to media demands and give in to become a tyrant in one - count ‘em - ONE day.

And then the supposedly “pro-life” groups (NRLC and affiliates I’m talking directly to YOU!) will fawn all over him because he talks about how pro-life he is (except when he’s talking to pro-deathers, at which point he talks about how pro-choice he is).

Romney is who he is and we’re not going to change that. He’s a media lap-dog. Unfortunately, the GOP-e and supposedly “pro-life” groups have shown us exactly what they are as well. And it ain’t pretty - at all.

This isn’t really about abortion at all. It’s about government tyranny - the establishment of government religion that no religion is able to be free from, even within their own sanctuaries. I am a Missouri-Synod Lutheran, but my Synod president, along with spokesmen for a variety of other religions, testified before Congress on the need to keep religious liberty rather than succomb to the tyranny in Obamacare.

But as you can see, Mitt Romney’s argument that religious tyranny is fine as long as it is done by STATES has been heard by his fellow pro-deathers in New England. He set the standard for them and they are running with it. And as a reward the GOP-e is about to force all us conservatives to commune at this altar of death with our very votes.

It is beyond sick. Way, way, way beyond sick.

We MUST fight back. We must REFUSE to reward the guy who started this state-religion avalanche in which the whole concept of religious liberty is about to be crushed.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 3:42:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Venturer
Close them down. Do not sell them, Do not rent them to someone else to run, Just close the doors and walk away.

that's what's been happening in NYC.

Obama was right,. This is not a Christian Country any more.

Wrong. And that's why we're suffering with him. (IMHO).

24 posted on 04/22/2012 3:52:52 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Venturer

Exactly.

They want to play chicken? It will be them who has to explain how and why the people in these states can’t get standard medical care because of too-high demand in hospitals, while doctors and nurses are unemployed and hospitals stand empty.

Acts 5:29 applies: “Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!’”


25 posted on 04/22/2012 4:04:59 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Salvation

But what did they actually do in Massachusetts when Mitt Romney forced Catholic hospitals to perform abortions? Are there still Catholic hospitals in Massachusetts?


26 posted on 04/22/2012 4:07:20 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: xkaydet65

Just don’t sell them as hosptals.

Close them down.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 4:56:51 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pyro7480

The Bishops can always instruct that the hospitals are to be burned down, rather than comply with a dictatorial edict.


28 posted on 04/23/2012 6:46:10 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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If they can make Catholic hospitals perform abortions.

Then they can force Catholic churches to perform gay marriages.

29 posted on 04/23/2012 8:35:14 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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