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Pelosi: Catholic Archdioceses Were Not ‘Speaking’ for Catholic Church When They Sued Administration
CNSNews.com ^ | 6/7/12 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 06/08/2012 11:08:57 AM PDT by marshmallow

(CNSNews.com) - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D.-Calif.) said on Thursday that the 43 Catholic institutions—including the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., the Archdiocese of St. Louis and the Archdiocese of New York--that are suing the Obama administration over its regulation mandating that all health-care plans must cover sterilizations, contraceptives and abortifacients are not speaking for the Catholic Church.

When the lawsuits were filed in a coordinated action on May 21, Archbishop Robert J. Carlson of St. Louis spoke at a press conference, giving a quite different impression. "The mandate set to take effect in August of this year requires us to violate our teaching on sterilization, contraception, and abortion-inducing drugs," Archbishop Carlson said in explaining the lawsuits that were filed simultaneously in 12 different federal court districts across the country by Catholic archdiocoeses, dioceses, universities, schools and charitable organizations. "The Catholic Church, led by the U.S.C.C.B. [U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops], has pursued every imaginable avenue to correct this problem without litigation," said the archbishop. "But in a few short months, the federal government will force Catholic institutions to choose between violating the law and violating our moral convictions. Right now, the future is unclear, and any scenario that forces us to violate our moral convictions is unacceptable."

CNSNews.com asked Pelosi, who is Catholic, whether she supported her church in the lawsuits it has filed, which argue that the administration’s regulation violates the freedom of religion guaranteed by the First Amendment.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: pelosi; popenancy; popepelosi
Nancy Pelosi sez.............
1 posted on 06/08/2012 11:09:06 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Has she received communion since her visit with the B16?

I know he did not grant the opportunity to have a photo session with him. Just wonder if he told her to abstain from receiving until she changed her view on abortion.

2 posted on 06/08/2012 11:16:01 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: marshmallow

Excommunicate her publicly...that’s the only answer.


3 posted on 06/08/2012 11:20:08 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: marshmallow
Well, Nancy, I tell you what. Let's go ask the Pope whether the bishops speak for the Catholic Church!

Decisions, decisions! Who do I trust on Church Doctrine? The Pope and the Magisterium, or Nancy Pelosi?

LMAO!!!!!

4 posted on 06/08/2012 11:24:14 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: ThomasMore

I think this would be an admirable opportunity for the Pope to make clear his support for the bishops and exert his authority by publically execommunicating San Fran Nan!


5 posted on 06/08/2012 11:27:28 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: marshmallow

Nancy Pelosi is so evil she has lost her mind! I don’t happen to be Catholic but thank God they are speaking up for those unable to defend their lives!


6 posted on 06/08/2012 11:50:36 AM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: ThomasMore

——Excommunicate her publicly...that’s the only answer.——

The failure to do so tells me a lot about her bishop.

At least the bishops who capitulated to Henry VIII feared for their lives. What are our bishops afraid of? A nasty editorial in the NYT?


7 posted on 06/08/2012 11:50:36 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: marshmallow

Pelosi: Hell bound...


8 posted on 06/08/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Second Amendment Spoken Here)
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To: marshmallow

When is the Bishop in San Francisco going to get out the Bell, the Book, and the Candle for this witch?


9 posted on 06/08/2012 11:54:22 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: Edgerunner

pelosi is satan with Botox, who’s goal is to destroy the Catholic Church.


10 posted on 06/08/2012 12:09:00 PM PDT by jmax (Be warned....I'm armed. Round is chambered, full magazine is inserted, safety is off.)
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To: marshmallow
I am not a Catholic. But I do not know any Catholics who think that Mrs. Pelosi speaks for the Church. Yet it appears that every day she issues another pronouncement that suggests that she must believe that she does.

Will someone please help me out? Has there ever been any aspect of Catholic Theology, which would authorize this airhead to issues pronouncements, claiming to speak for the Roman Catholic Church? Can anyone suggest any basis, theoretical or not, which even implies that someone who daily issues the sort of statements that are appearing, attributed to Mrs. Pelosi, is even in possession of normal & rational mental faculties?

And while on the subject, is there no one--even in her own party in Washington--who sees how looney this is?

William Flax

11 posted on 06/08/2012 12:16:42 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: ThomasMore

I am so inclined to agree with you. It doesn’t seem enough for me to know that she is already quite self-excommunicated and has been denied Holy Communion.

I want to see the official pronouncement handed down, for all to hear, to stop the flow of scandal that flourishes so long as she continues to get to call herself Catholic.

It is very hurtful and it is personally scandalizing for lay faithful to be labeled unfavorably by one woman’s false witness that is so damaging to the Church as a whole, and especially to weak Catholics who are still new in their faith, and also to those ignorant of the real Church teachings. Just a shame all the way around.

In fact, it is a reflection on the Bishops themselves who eventually appear to teach what they tolerate. They have tolerated Pelosi to such an extreme, with relatively no push back, that naturally one can wonder what their silence and tolerance is saying. They may agree with her, is what that says. Shame.


12 posted on 06/08/2012 12:55:02 PM PDT by RitaOK (No Romney! Few are unafraid, but I thank God for the few. We are the resistance.)
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To: marshmallow

There could be some sport at the expense of Pelosi and other fallen Catholics at public events, as protesters could hold a rite of “vitandus excommunication” (which technically has not be Canon law since 1983), and then perform a “Bell, Book and Candle” (which has not been Canon for a long time) ritual reenactment:

‘This ceremony involved a bishop, with 12 priests, reciting an oath on the altar:’

“We separate him, together with his accomplices and abettors, from the precious body and blood of the Lord and from the society of all Christians; we exclude him from our Holy Mother, the Church in Heaven, and on earth; we declare him excommunicate and anathema; we judge him damned, with the Devil and his angels and all the reprobate, to eternal fire until he shall recover himself from the toils of the devil and return to amendment and to penitence.

“After reciting this the priests would respond “So be it!” The bishop would ring a bell to evoke a death toll, close a holy book to symbolize the ex-communicant’s separation from the church, and snuff out a candle or candles, knocking them to the floor to represent the target’s soul being extinguished and removed from the light of God.”

Of course this would just be street theater, but it would still have a potent impact on these individuals and those Catholics who embrace them. It points to them personally as a statement of religious failure, that they have fallen from grace despite their denials, and it is clear that while the church itself no longer does this in a formal way, that the end result is the same.

And of course, the media would eat it up and it would make some very interesting headlines. Headlines the targeted individual would not like one bit.


13 posted on 06/08/2012 1:08:39 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: RitaOK
They have tolerated Pelosi to such an extreme, with relatively no push back

They did the same thing for all the Kennedys and the abominable scandals that followed in the wake of their lives. Ted Kennedy should have been excommunicated. Instead, he gets a prince's funeral by a prince of the Church. As a clergyman, I am outraged at this kind of apathetic leadership.

Deacon Francis

14 posted on 06/08/2012 1:15:43 PM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: marshmallow

Did not realize Ms Plastic Face Pelosi spoke for the Catholic Church!


15 posted on 06/08/2012 1:22:56 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: ThomasMore

Thank you for your service. God bless your mission and your spirit. You are doing martyrs work in the field of chaos, in the USA.

I thank you for your comfort, that of knowing dedicated ministers can be scandalized also. The men of God among so many deacons and the newer, younger priesthood seems to reflect our best earthly hope for the US Catholics.

The poor, old lions are to be pitied for it seems in many, their lackluster performance of duty is no longer of the Spirit but even now of faithlessness. Poor things, to be prayed for, even with my fists clinched.

I trust you are a Catholic deacon?


16 posted on 06/08/2012 1:29:24 PM PDT by RitaOK (No Romney! Few are unafraid, but I thank God for the few. We are the resistance.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I’m not a Catholic, but if I understand it correctly the Pope still has infallibility on matters of Canon Law, so he could bring that rite back if he felt it was necessary.

I doubt it would ever happen, but I think that His Holiness is probably just a tad irritated with SanFranNan today. I wonder if he’s tempted.


17 posted on 06/08/2012 1:33:36 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: marshmallow

This garbage mouth has said so many rediculous things in the past, that it is hard for anybody to take her seriously on anything. To say that these archdiocese don’t represent the catholic church is so silly it does not deserve an answer.


18 posted on 06/08/2012 3:35:22 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: marshmallow
Oh, but Nancy, they do represent the Catholic Church -- the people.....hey, aren't you supposed to represent us? LOL!


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19 posted on 06/08/2012 4:26:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Ronin

As ‘street theater’, it doesn’t even need to be done by Catholics. Just put up a poster proclaiming the “’excommunication’ of Nancy Pelosi”, for example. Then perform the ritual, after a fashion, and leave without answering questions or talking to anyone.

As long as it is done in a public place, say outside an auditorium where she is speaking, it is legal. If they wanted to spice it up a it, someone could distribute flyers that say, in English and Latin, what her ‘offenses’ are, and that she is ‘anethema’ and to be shunned by Catholics, that they do not recognize her, nor listen to her words, nor support her or provide for her in any way.

This could be done all over the US against any number of faux Catholic politicians, and when they went to complain to the local clergy about it, they would have no idea what they were talking about.

I would recommend that those who did it wear cowls that conceal their faces, which would really lend an ominous air to the proceedings.


20 posted on 06/08/2012 4:43:57 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

((((((sigh))))) My fantasy....


21 posted on 06/08/2012 6:34:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Since God chose you ...clothe yourselves with tenderhearted mercy, gentleness, and patience. " .)
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To: Ohioan

There has long been an unacknowledged schism in the American Church. California is famous for the liberalism exemplfied by Cardinal Mahoney, the former archbishop of Los Angeles. Having reached the age of 75, Mahoney was forced to vacate the see, but he has plenty of bishops on his side inCalifornia and elsewhere. What Pelosi spouts is what he has heard from priests sand bishops, which is why she is so confident in speaking out. What has happened in the Catholic Church is something like what has happened in the Episcopal and other mainline protestant churches, except that in Catholic Church, the liberals are no longer so much in the ascendency. Dolan’s ascendency to the chair of the bishop’s council was not welcomed. because the pope has increasingly intervened to remove liberals from seats of power. The new archbishop of Baltimore, the primate in America, is also a traditionalist, as is the new archbishop of Philadelphia. But the liberals remain powerful and the likes of Pelosi serve as their mouthpiece.


22 posted on 06/08/2012 7:02:17 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: marshmallow

Err.. Nancy, they DO. They don’t stand for CINOs like you though...


23 posted on 06/09/2012 7:07:48 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RobbyS

For now that is.

Slowly with more bishops tending to their “retirement papers”, look for more bishops to go back to the traditional basics.


24 posted on 06/09/2012 7:51:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Cronos

SHE DOES NOT speak for me!


25 posted on 06/09/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: RobbyS
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. But would you agree with me, that Mrs. Pelosi's theological views--common or not in certain circles--are fundamentally inconsistent with any traditional Church or Biblical teaching? Her remarks strike me as modern equivalents to the demands of the mob in Sodom, calling for Lott to send out his visitors.

I really do not understand how anyone who claims to serve a Godly purpose, can try to justify some of the things that come our of the "Lady's" mouth. That the Democrats once made her Speaker of the House is a political atrocity, fully on par with electing a man whose actions had made it very clear, long before before he decided to run for President, that he hated every principal that had once made America the envy of the World.

William Flax

26 posted on 06/09/2012 9:01:29 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

I agree with you that she is wrong and so are the priests and bishops who taught her. Neither they nor she speak the truth. Rather half-truths, which are worse than outright falsehoods. To use the words of Jacques Maritain, a notable Catholic philosopher,”they genuflect to the world.”


27 posted on 06/09/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RitaOK

Yes, I’m a Catholic Deacon in the Diocese of Providence.


28 posted on 06/11/2012 5:00:35 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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