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Pro-Obama Catholic: abortion is 'intrinsic evil,' but you can still vote pro-abortion
CNA ^ | October 20, 2008

Posted on 10/20/2008 12:25:53 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Bitsy; NYer
I heard a priest say last year that the greatest wrong that is coming of age is that "God thinks like I think."

I know that's dead on with so many of these arrogant people who don't seem to care about what the teachings of God or the church are.

41 posted on 10/20/2008 1:37:05 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Jackson57

“Kaveny et. al. can lie to Catholic, Protestants, atheists, etc, BUT she won’t be able to lie to God. And she’ll have to answer to Him for those lies....”

I wonder who she’s planning to have intercede for her at the Last Judgement. Does she expect Barack, the New Messiah, to be the judge??? She’s in for a terrible time. She needs our prayers.

I do hope that before she gets her sentence to Eternal Damnation, that she can come face to face with Thomas More and get her comeuppance.


42 posted on 10/20/2008 1:44:56 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: NYer
Let's just cut to the chase:

The Democratic path is practical, anything but easy—as no act of bona fide love of neighbor ever is

In other words, pulling a baby 80% out of her mother and sucking her brains out of her skull with a vacuum cannula, and affirming that act as a "constitutional right," and forcing other people to pay for it under penalty of law ... that's "an act of bona fide love of neighbor".

Giving abortionists the ability to legally abort a 12-year-old girl to cover up her molestation by an adult man without the knowledge or involvement of her parents ... that's "an act of bona fide love of neighbor".

That is how perverse and wretched this so-called "professor" at a so-called "Catholic university" is.

43 posted on 10/20/2008 1:45:59 PM PDT by Campion
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To: unspun

Ok..abortion is evil. But not if we have a Dim in the White House ? But they always neglect to mention that we,the Tax Payer should not be forced to fund this evil.No matter WHO is in the White House ! I’m getting very tired of anyone that tries to justify or condone the taking of a innocent life.And it makes me sick that any religion would try and do just that.


44 posted on 10/20/2008 1:50:23 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: NYer; All

If you know anyone who calls himself a Christian who still is rationalizing he can vote for Obama (especially if it’s your priest), share with them this powerful video by the star from the movie “Bella”. Warning, not for under 16 years of age, explicit photos of aborted babies (that is, the truth in images).

I hope this link is right, it was emailed to me, there are a Spanish and English version. Pass it along, it will change hearts in about 3 minutes.

www.durarealidad.com


45 posted on 10/20/2008 2:05:14 PM PDT by baa39 (Our Lady of Victory, pray for us!)
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To: NYer

So did her head come flying off like a helicopter after all of that spinning?


46 posted on 10/20/2008 2:12:48 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: ex-snook

I concur. As well, I’m having to ask myself exactly how many abortions have been stopped by a political campaign to overturn RvW. I would say quite near nil.

At some point effort must be paid to prevention as well as abolition. More so during time like these when abolition would seem to be near impossible.


47 posted on 10/20/2008 2:34:01 PM PDT by dieudonne
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To: NYer

**Kaveny, a Professor of Law and Theology at the University of Notre Dame, has joined professors Douglas W. Kmiec and Nicholas P. Cafardi in trying to make a Catholic case for Sen. Barack Obama despite his 100% pro-abortion record.**

They are all wrong. Catholics CANNOT support abortion in any way at alll they will excommunicate themselves if they do so. No Communion at all.


48 posted on 10/20/2008 2:41:23 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: LottieDah
Hope you run into him again and have your Catechism of the Catholic Church in hand.

**Well, he said, people are lying about Obama’s stance on abortion. John McCain speaks with forked-tongue. McCain is too old. If he drops dead we’d get stuck with Palin **

Obama is lying -- and among these links is the truth of his abortion stance. Maybe you can print one out for this deranged person!

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Palin criticizes Obama on abortion at Pa. rally
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Palin Slams Obama on Abortion
Sarah Palin Slams Obama on Radical Abortion Views
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YouTube: Obama Stories for Kids #3 - Barack and Abortion
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Analysis Shows Mainstream Media Silent on Barack Obama's Pro-Abortion Views
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Will the Church Split Along Red and Blue Lines?
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Palin: Obama "Atrocious" On Abortion
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Media Silence on Abortion Aids Radical Obama
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Some Christian voters lean toward Obama, study finds (Religious Left Alert)
Statement on Senator Biden's Recent Comments on Church Teachings on Abortion [Bis. Malooly]
Killed abortion survivor finally gets funeral [LOOK AT WHAT OBAMA SUPPORTS]
Obama Campaign Won't Say if Health Care Plan Includes Abortion
14 Bishops and counting correct Senator Biden...
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Catholics and Abortion (Again)
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Vatican official calls Democrats “the party of death”
"Pro-Life, Pro-Obama" website launched (buckle your seatbelts - it's gonna be a rocky election ride)
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Oregon Archbishop Criticizes Catholic Governor for Hosting Pro-Abortion Event

Archbishop Burke Laments the 'Party of Deat
Cardinal Rigali's Statement for Respect Life Sunday
Bishop of Scranton pledges vigilance in correcting pro-choice Catholic politicians
New Web Site Falsely Claims Barack Obama Pro-Life on Abortion, Ignores Record
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Barack Obama Voted Against Extending Health Care to Pregnant Women, Unborn
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U.S. archbishop at Vatican says Democrats becoming 'party of death'
Barack Obama's Campaign Sought to Exploit Rape Victim to Attack on Abortion
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Born Alive After an Abortion (My interview with Gianna Jessen)
OPINION: A Plea to Catholic Obama Supporters, Part III
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AMAZING Video of Spanish actor Eduardo Verastefui SLAMMING Obama on Abortion and racism
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Abortion Survivor Jessen Responds to Obama Calling Her "Despicable Liar"
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Catholic 527 Ad Criticizing McCain
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Open Letter to Senator Joe Biden by Supreme Knight Carl Anderson [Church Teachings]
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US Conference of Catholic Bishops responds to Joe Biden
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To Whom Joe Biden Bows
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Biden Risks Refusal of Holy Communion
Bishops criticize Biden’s abortion remarks for flawed reasoning
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Biden Gaffe Machine Rolls On
Joe Biden Attacks Sarah Palin on Abortion, "Backwards Step for Women"
Biden: If Republicans care so much about kids with birth defects,why not support stem-cell research?

Update: Biden skips Mass where new Bishop speak out against him
Bishops criticize Biden’s abortion remarks for flawed reasoning
Obama Supported Live Birth Abortion (Infanticide), and Lied About It
Joe Biden Misleads in Interview: Routinely Backs Tax-Funded Abortions
Update: Biden skips Mass where new Bishop speaks out against him
Pelosi to meet archbishop for talks on communion
Democrats on Abortion-Safe, Legal, no longer need be Rare
Joe Biden Misleads in Interview, Routinely Supports Tax-Funded Abortions
Archbishop Chaput Corrects Senator Biden on Abortion
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Breaking: (Archbishop) Chaput responds to Biden
Deja Vu: Biden-Gate has begun ... complete coverage
Barack Obama Admits "Above My Pay Grade" Abortion Answer Flippant
Obama: My Answer on Abortion at Saddleback Church was Too Flip
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As a Matter of Faith, Biden Says Life Begins at Conception
First Pete and then Re-Pete: Biden follows Pelosi down the slope on Meet The Press
Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
Obama is more than just a defender of Roe v Wade
Obama says he was too flip on abortion issue

Obama's Abortion Positon: To the Left of NARAL
Pelosi, Archbishop To Meet Over Abortion Dispute
Bishop Robert Vasa: Pelosi "is not formed by either Augustine or the Catholic Church"
Obama presidency would be a good fit for Catholics (CINO Barf Alert)
History of Church Teaching on Abortion
U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Launches New Stem Cell Research and Anti-Abortion Ads
San Francisco Archbishop addresses recent comments made by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
The Speaker's Archbishop Speaks
Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion
Pelosi, By [Francis Cardinal George
House Speaker Pelosi’s 1500-Year-Old Ecclesial Sound Bite: Bishop Robert Vasa

Catholic Joe's Abortion Woe
Obama ad slams McCain on abortion rights
Going Off the Deep End in Denver: Democrats Walk the Abortion Plank
Pelosi: "Many Catholics do not ascribe to that view”
Calling All Pro-life Dems
Catholic leaders accused of failing to enforce church law
Politics trump morals for Obama, Biden
Don't Blame the Bishops (Pelosi slap down)
Joe Biden [on Abortion]
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI Two more bishops censure Nancy Pelosi
Biden On his pro-abortion stance: "My Views are Totally Consistent with Catholic Social Doctrine..."
Is This Dr. King's Dream for Black America? [Obama on black issues]
Two More Bishops Correct Speaker Pelosi on Life
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Niece to Obama: My Uncle Would Oppose Abortion
Michelle Obama Confronted by Post-Abortion Message, Pictures of Unborn Children
McCain Himself Accuses Obama of Courting Infanticide
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI
Abp. Chaput continues to steal spotlight from DNC
[Dems] Losing faith voters

CASEY BLOWS IT BIG TIME; SETTLES FOR CLICHÉS ON ABORTION
Biden: "My views are totally consistent with Catholic social doctrine..." (Ignorance Alert!)
Protecting the Unborn: A Step-By-Step Approach
Sen. Joseph Biden - Bearing false witness...
Pope Pelosi At the Gate
Cal Thomas: [Democrats]Losing Faith Voters
Nothing from Niederauer ( Pelosi's archbishop remains silent! )
She (Pelosi) Misrepresented Teaching of (Catholic) Church (Abortion)
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools ( Ouch! )
Pelosi's Theologizing on Abortion is a Repeat of Biden's Own Quotes on Meet the Press

[OPEN] Joe Biden and the Bishops
[OPEN] Catholic Bishops and Democratic Theologians
[OPEN]Pelosi defends comments on beginning of life as more bishops warn against them
Biden follows Pelosi in mangling Catholic doctrine on abortion
Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton Hit John McCain on Abortion at Emily’s List Lunch
Pelosi Spokeswoman About-face: Catholic Church Clear on Life Teaching, But Catholics Need Not Listen
Obama in His Own Words: There Is No Doubt He Supported Infanticide
Pope Pelosi at the Gate - Life with the Speaker.
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
House GOP demands Pelosi apology for abortion comments

Nancy Pelosi Patristic Scholar (great graphic!)
Voters Should be Troubled by Obama's Abortion Stance
Day 4 of Pelosi-Gate: Reactions
Pro-Life Democrats Need Not Apply
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden (says Mr. Biden should avoid taking Communion)
Pope Pelosi At the Gate
Pelosi’s feud with archbishop escalates
Archbishop: Democrats don't know Christianity
Pope Pelosi At the Gate

[OPEN]Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
The Arrogance of Nancy Pelosi ( Rush Limbaugh )
Pelosi stands by abortion comments
Pelosi's spokesman responds with more gobbledygook, quotes Augustine again
The issue that won't go away [Abortion and Politicians]
American prelates rebuke 'pro-choice' Catholics
WHAT ALL CATHOLICS SHOULD DO CONCERNING NANCY PELOSI
[OPEN] Pelosi a 'religious heretic,' says former GOP Rep.
Cardinal Egan Corrects Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Poll: Majority of Americans Disagree With Barack Obama on When Life Begins

The Democratic Left Promotes Anti-Catholic Hatred
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
EDITORIAL: Abortion, Forced Eviction from our First Home -- the Womb
Breaking: Pelosi's home archdiocese republishes USCCB statement
Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
The Democrats and the Abortion Wars - Are Obama and Pelosi dodging the life-and-death question?
Bishops Respond to House Speaker Pelosi's Misrepresentation of Church Teaching Against Abortion
The Crucial Catholic Vote: Does It Exist?
Bishops: Democratic VP Nominee Should Refrain from Communion
Cardinal Egan Blasts Pelosi (in brilliantly scathing response) [Open]
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden

Catholic Bishop: Pro-Abortion VP Candidate Joe Biden Should Skip Communion
When Does Human Life Begin? Obama's Pro-Abortion Answer Hill Downfall
Bishops Correct Speaker Nancy Pelosi: On the Separation of Sense and State
Denver archbishop slams Pelosi on Church teachings and abortion
Pelosi, Abortion & St. Augustine - UPDATED
Catholic leaders react to Biden pick; Bishops say he should refrain from Communion
Obama Supporter On FNC: Jesus Would Be O.K. With Abortion
How should Catholics vote? [editorial from the LA Times]
"Catholic" Speaker Pelosi Denies that Catholicism Condemns Abortion
Catholics Against Joe Biden (Link to site) [Open]

Choice of Biden Re-Opens Catholic Wound; Own Bishop Outspoken on Obligation to Protect Life
"Prudent And Nuanced View”( LA Times wants Archbishop Burke to shut up about abortion)
“Help me out here, Madam Speaker” ( “I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins” )
Biden's Catholic faith offers risks, rewards
Nancy Pelosi on when life begins (Smarter than Obama?
Obama, Biden, Foreign Policy and the Catholic Vote
The "Abortion Joe" Biden will get his ticket a record low Catholic vote
Obama's Falsehood: The Truth About His Abortion Record
EDITORIAL:Obama Chooses Biden and the Battle for Life is Engaged
Joe Biden Makes It Easier for Catholics to Oppose Pro-Abortion Barack Obama

Obamacide
McCain attacks Obama on pro-abortion stance
Barack Obama's Sole Article in Harvard Law Review Promotes Abortion
Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide
Obama's Born-Alive Problem
William A. Donohue: Catholic Left Hangs Itself (5/22/08) [Abortion]
"Until they have reformed their lives" ( No Holy Communion for pro-abortion Catholics!)
African American Pro-Life Leader Tells Barack Obama: No We Can't OK Abortion
OBAMA AND INFANTICIDE (Reinhard)
They'd be angry at Obama if he was caught saying the N-word. Supporting Infanticide—Not so much.

In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words
Explosive Audio Found - Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act - Audio
Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor
Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA
Audio Found Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Abortion foes using racism to make point at DNC [Randall Terry / Operation Rescue]
Why Obama couldn't answer Warren's baby question
Smoking gun? Papers expose Obama's 'infanticide' vote
EXTRA: Archbishop Burke on Catholics who Support Abortion
Senator Barack Obama Wants You to Pay for Abortions

US Bishops Look at Election
John McCain Will Not Pick Pro-Abortion Running Mate, Rules Out Tom Ridge
Vote for Real Hope and Change [Archbishop Chaput]
Catholics who support abortion should not receive Communion, says Archbishop Burke (again :-)
CNN Again Omits Part of the Story Concerning Obama’s Abortion Votes
Obama Flunks Rick Warren's Abortion Question
Obama and the Black American Family Don’t Jibe [Abortion]
Obama Caught Red-Handed in Abortion Lie
Archbishop Naumann hopes Obama realizes Sebelius is a bad Catholic advisor
Obama Facing Attacks >From All Sides Over Abortion Record

OBAMA'S EXTREMISM - HIS ABORTION RECORD IS NO LIE
Barack Obama - Abortion Extremist
Barack Obama lied about babies ‘Born Alive’ vote then smeared Corsi
Babies' Rights and the Definition of Marriage [re: Forum responses by Obama vs. McCain]
Opinion: Doug Kmiec on McCain v. Obama at Saddleback
Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Continues to Unravel...
Life Lies: Barack Obama and Born-Alive
Operation Rescue founder to distribute new flyer: "Is it Immoral to Vote for Obama for President?"
Obama Calls Pro-Lifers Liars
Obama Jun 15: “fathers…at conception” August 16 “answering that question is above my pay grade”

Niece of Martin Luther King Jr. to Lead Prayer Vigil Outside Largest U.S. Abortion Centre
Campaign Admits Obama Lied About Abortion Vote, Media Asleep
Obama “pay grade” comment purposely ignores SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION
Barack Obama Repeats False Claim Abortions Haven't Declined Under Bush
Obama and Abortion
Obama Says Right to Life Coalition Is Lying About His Record
Barack Obama Says Pro-Life Group Lying About His Pro-Infanticide Votes
Obama's infanticide problem>
Obama and McCain Woo Catholics
Obama's Christian Creds Vs. Abortion and Infanticide

Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
Mommy Won't Help Dems on Abortion
Abortion Leader Confirms that Democratic Platform is More Pro-Abortion than Ever
Obama More Than An Abortion Radical
Obama’s Abortion Lies (Obama cover-up on born-alive survivors bill)
Life with Obama: Abortion champion
Knighting the Catholic Vote (K of C urging Catholics to vote pro-life)
Linda Chavez: Obama’s Catholic problem
Catholic Voters and 2008
Barack Obama Supports the Murder of Newborn Infants

Obama Lied About Abortion Record
What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion
[OPEN] Supreme K of C Calls for Real "Change" on Abortion and Catholic Revolt against Obama Nation
Obama's Catholic Problem ( Linda Chavez )
Obama’s View on Abortion May Divide Catholics ( "May Divide?" )
Obama loses 26 points among Catholics
Barack Obama's Wife Michelle to Join Hillary Clinton at Pro-Abortion Dinner
OPINION: Senator Obama and the Wall of the Womb
Barack Obama's Pledge to Overturn Every Pro-Life Abortion Law One Year Old
Obama Worse than Clintons on Abortion Says National Right to Life Leader Interview-SCOTUS Critical

Roman Catholics for Obama '08
OBAMA TO CATHOLICS: NO VOUCHERS
How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?
Obama’s director of Catholic Outreach ‘dodges’ opportunity to reach Catholics
Barack Obama Slams John McCain For Opposing Abortion, Activist Judges
Catholics and Obama
COMMENTARY: Quandry for Catholics At Election Time
The Latest Refinement (Obama on Abortion)
CNN Runs Biased News Story Covering Up Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record
Jill Stanek: Obama's biggest lie about supporting infanticide

The Battle for Catholic Voters
New Report Indicates Voters Most Interested in Barack Obama’s Position on Abortion
Deal Hudson: Obama and Infanticide?
Ad asks Obama: ‘If fatherhood begins at conception, when does life begin?’
Embryonic stem-cell research immoral, unnecessary, bishops say
Catholics should not vote for Obama
Catholic Caucus: It is a sin to vote/support Obama/DNC [abortion]
More Catholics leaning towards Democrats, poll reports (really not Catholics)
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Obama's Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion....

NARAL Catholics Line Up for Obama
Editorial: Disagreeing with Doug Kmiec One More Time
State-Funded Embryo Research "Makes Taxpayers Complicit in Killing", say Bishops
McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn
Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after
Has Obama dissolved his Catholic advisory council?
Commentary: Faithful Citizenship and the Formed Conscience
Catholic League: Where's Obama's 'Catholic Advisory Council'? [Not to be found!]
Right-wing Christians beginning to lean left (Misleading headline)
Catholics Debate Obama Vote

Bishop Vasa: Pro-Abortion Candidates are 'Disqualified'
Does Biden Have a Catholic Problem?"
Targeting Trig Palin (Obama supporters go negative--on a baby.)
Meet the Obama Pro-Lifers (effort to tell pro-life voters that Obama will reduce abortion)
BRISTOL DID THE WRONG THING (Piñata rule in effect)
Bishops To Take On Pro-Abort Pols
(On Abortion): Pols Talk Faith, Bishops Talk Fact
Biden avoids confrontation with his new bishop
Bishops to Biden: The Church is Clear on the Right to Life
Why I Cannot Vote for Barack Obama

Jill Stanek: Obama digs deeper on 'pay grade' gaffe
Canadian Doctors Group Worried Palin Example Will Lower Down's Abortion Rate
Pro-Abortion Leaders Consider McCain and Palin So Extreme, Words Fail Them
Bishops Respond To Senator Biden’s Statements Regarding Church Teaching On Abortion
Hilary Cosell: Palin - Have womb, will travel
The Gospel According to Joe Biden
Canadian Doctors Group Worried Palin Example Will Lower Down's Abortion Rate
S.C. Dem chair: Palin primary qualification is she hasn't had an abortion
US Conference of Catholic Bishops responds to Joe Biden
Politicians, Theology, and Abortion

To Whom Joe Biden Bows
Biden Gets Theology Lesson on Abortion From Bishops
Archbishop: Democrats Don't Know Christianity (8/26/2008)
Brokaw Grills Biden on Abortion à la Pelosi
Biden Risks Refusal of Holy Communion
Bishops criticize Biden’s abortion remarks for flawed reasoning
Biden and Developmental Disabilities (Joe Blow a Gaffe-Riot)
Biden Gaffe Machine Rolls On
Joe Biden Attacks Sarah Palin on Abortion, "Backwards Step for Women"
Biden: If Republicans care so much about kids with birth defects,why not support stem-cell research?

Update: Biden skips Mass where new Bishop speak out against him
Bishops criticize Biden’s abortion remarks for flawed reasoning
Obama Supported Live Birth Abortion (Infanticide), and Lied About It
Joe Biden Misleads in Interview: Routinely Backs Tax-Funded Abortions
Update: Biden skips Mass where new Bishop speaks out against him
Pelosi to meet archbishop for talks on communion
Democrats on Abortion-Safe, Legal, no longer need be Rare
Joe Biden Misleads in Interview, Routinely Supports Tax-Funded Abortions
Archbishop Chaput Corrects Senator Biden on Abortion
Pro-Abortion Groups Renew $30 Million Campaign Against McCain, Sarah Palin

Breaking: (Archbishop) Chaput responds to Biden
Deja Vu: Biden-Gate has begun ... complete coverage
Barack Obama Admits "Above My Pay Grade" Abortion Answer Flippant
Obama: My Answer on Abortion at Saddleback Church was Too Flip
Obama considered joining military, regrets abortion answer
As a Matter of Faith, Biden Says Life Begins at Conception
First Pete and then Re-Pete: Biden follows Pelosi down the slope on Meet The Press
Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
Obama is more than just a defender of Roe v Wade
Obama says he was too flip on abortion issue

Obama's Abortion Positon: To the Left of NARAL
Pelosi, Archbishop To Meet Over Abortion Dispute
Bishop Robert Vasa: Pelosi "is not formed by either Augustine or the Catholic Church"
Obama presidency would be a good fit for Catholics (CINO Barf Alert)
History of Church Teaching on Abortion
U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Launches New Stem Cell Research and Anti-Abortion Ads
San Francisco Archbishop addresses recent comments made by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
The Speaker's Archbishop Speaks
Archbishop, Pelosi to talk about communion
Pelosi, By [Francis Cardinal George
House Speaker Pelosi’s 1500-Year-Old Ecclesial Sound Bite: Bishop Robert Vasa

Catholic Joe's Abortion Woe
Obama ad slams McCain on abortion rights
Going Off the Deep End in Denver: Democrats Walk the Abortion Plank
Pelosi: "Many Catholics do not ascribe to that view”
Calling All Pro-life Dems
Catholic leaders accused of failing to enforce church law
Politics trump morals for Obama, Biden
Don't Blame the Bishops (Pelosi slap down)
Joe Biden [on Abortion]
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI Two more bishops censure Nancy Pelosi
Biden On his pro-abortion stance: "My Views are Totally Consistent with Catholic Social Doctrine..."
Is This Dr. King's Dream for Black America? [Obama on black issues]
Two More Bishops Correct Speaker Pelosi on Life
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Niece to Obama: My Uncle Would Oppose Abortion
Michelle Obama Confronted by Post-Abortion Message, Pictures of Unborn Children
McCain Himself Accuses Obama of Courting Infanticide
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND PELOSI
Abp. Chaput continues to steal spotlight from DNC
[Dems] Losing faith voters

CASEY BLOWS IT BIG TIME; SETTLES FOR CLICHÉS ON ABORTION
Biden: "My views are totally consistent with Catholic social doctrine..." (Ignorance Alert!)
Protecting the Unborn: A Step-By-Step Approach
>a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2069846/posts?page=81">Sen. Joseph Biden - Bearing false witness...
Pope Pelosi At the Gate
Cal Thomas: [Democrats]Losing Faith Voters
Nothing from Niederauer ( Pelosi's archbishop remains silent! )
She (Pelosi) Misrepresented Teaching of (Catholic) Church (Abortion)
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools ( Ouch! )
Pelosi's Theologizing on Abortion is a Repeat of Biden's Own Quotes on Meet the Press

[OPEN] Joe Biden and the Bishops
[OPEN] Catholic Bishops and Democratic Theologians
[OPEN]Pelosi defends comments on beginning of life as more bishops warn against them
Biden follows Pelosi in mangling Catholic doctrine on abortion
Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton Hit John McCain on Abortion at Emily’s List Lunch
Pelosi Spokeswoman About-face: Catholic Church Clear on Life Teaching, But Catholics Need Not Listen
Obama in His Own Words: There Is No Doubt He Supported Infanticide
Pope Pelosi at the Gate - Life with the Speaker.
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
House GOP demands Pelosi apology for abortion comments

The Democratic Left Promotes Anti-Catholic Hatred
Biden's Bishop Will not Permit Him, Even if Elected VP, to Speak at Catholic Schools
EDITORIAL: Abortion, Forced Eviction from our First Home -- the Womb
Breaking: Pelosi's home archdiocese republishes USCCB statement
Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
The Democrats and the Abortion Wars - Are Obama and Pelosi dodging the life-and-death question?
Bishops Respond to House Speaker Pelosi's Misrepresentation of Church Teaching Against Abortion
The Crucial Catholic Vote: Does It Exist?
Bishops: Democratic VP Nominee Should Refrain from Communion
Cardinal Egan Blasts Pelosi (in brilliantly scathing response) [Open]
Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden

Denver Archbishop scolds pro-choice Biden
Bishops say Pelosi misrepresented abortion teaching in TV interview
Washington Archbishop rips Pelosi
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
OPEN]On the Separation of Sense and State: (Chaput Teaching on Pelosi)
Archbishop Wuerl on the Church’s Constant Teaching on Abortion
Washington archbishop rips Pelosi on abortion
Bishops Correct Speaker Nancy Pelosi: 'On the Separation of Sense and State'
Pelosi lies about Catholicism and abortion

Catholic Bishop: Pro-Abortion VP Candidate Joe Biden Should Skip Communion
When Does Human Life Begin? Obama's Pro-Abortion Answer Hill Downfall
Bishops Correct Speaker Nancy Pelosi: On the Separation of Sense and State
Denver archbishop slams Pelosi on Church teachings and abortion
Pelosi, Abortion & St. Augustine - UPDATED
Catholic leaders react to Biden pick; Bishops say he should refrain from Communion
Obama Supporter On FNC: Jesus Would Be O.K. With Abortion
How should Catholics vote? [editorial from the LA Times]
"Catholic" Speaker Pelosi Denies that Catholicism Condemns Abortion
Catholics Against Joe Biden (Link to site) [Open]

Choice of Biden Re-Opens Catholic Wound; Own Bishop Outspoken on Obligation to Protect Life
"Prudent And Nuanced View”( LA Times wants Archbishop Burke to shut up about abortion)
“Help me out here, Madam Speaker” ( “I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins” )
Biden's Catholic faith offers risks, rewards
Nancy Pelosi on when life begins (Smarter than Obama?
Obama, Biden, Foreign Policy and the Catholic Vote
The "Abortion Joe" Biden will get his ticket a record low Catholic vote
Obama's Falsehood: The Truth About His Abortion Record
EDITORIAL:Obama Chooses Biden and the Battle for Life is Engaged
Joe Biden Makes It Easier for Catholics to Oppose Pro-Abortion Barack Obama

Obamacide
McCain attacks Obama on pro-abortion stance
Barack Obama's Sole Article in Harvard Law Review Promotes Abortion
Why Obama Really Voted For Infanticide
Obama's Born-Alive Problem
William A. Donohue: Catholic Left Hangs Itself (5/22/08) [Abortion]
"Until they have reformed their lives" ( No Holy Communion for pro-abortion Catholics!)
African American Pro-Life Leader Tells Barack Obama: No We Can't OK Abortion
OBAMA AND INFANTICIDE (Reinhard)
They'd be angry at Obama if he was caught saying the N-word. Supporting Infanticide—Not so much.

In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words
Explosive Audio Found - Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act - Audio
Transcript of Obama's verbal opposition to Born Alive on the IL Senate floor
Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA
Audio Found Obama arguing against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act
Abortion foes using racism to make point at DNC [Randall Terry / Operation Rescue]
Why Obama couldn't answer Warren's baby question
Smoking gun? Papers expose Obama's 'infanticide' vote
EXTRA: Archbishop Burke on Catholics who Support Abortion
Senator Barack Obama Wants You to Pay for Abortions

US Bishops Look at Election
John McCain Will Not Pick Pro-Abortion Running Mate, Rules Out Tom Ridge
Vote for Real Hope and Change [Archbishop Chaput]
Catholics who support abortion should not receive Communion, says Archbishop Burke (again :-)
CNN Again Omits Part of the Story Concerning Obama’s Abortion Votes
Obama Flunks Rick Warren's Abortion Question
Obama and the Black American Family Don’t Jibe [Abortion]
Obama Caught Red-Handed in Abortion Lie
Archbishop Naumann hopes Obama realizes Sebelius is a bad Catholic advisor
Obama Facing Attacks >From All Sides Over Abortion Record

OBAMA'S EXTREMISM - HIS ABORTION RECORD IS NO LIE
Barack Obama - Abortion Extremist
Barack Obama lied about babies ‘Born Alive’ vote then smeared Corsi
Babies' Rights and the Definition of Marriage [re: Forum responses by Obama vs. McCain]
Opinion: Doug Kmiec on McCain v. Obama at Saddleback
Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Continues to Unravel...
Life Lies: Barack Obama and Born-Alive
Operation Rescue founder to distribute new flyer: "Is it Immoral to Vote for Obama for President?"
Obama Calls Pro-Lifers Liars
Obama Jun 15: “fathers…at conception” August 16 “answering that question is above my pay grade”

Niece of Martin Luther King Jr. to Lead Prayer Vigil Outside Largest U.S. Abortion Centre
Campaign Admits Obama Lied About Abortion Vote, Media Asleep
Obama “pay grade” comment purposely ignores SCIENTIFIC FACT that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION
Barack Obama Repeats False Claim Abortions Haven't Declined Under Bush
Obama and Abortion
Obama Says Right to Life Coalition Is Lying About His Record
Barack Obama Says Pro-Life Group Lying About His Pro-Infanticide Votes
Obama's infanticide problem>
Obama and McCain Woo Catholics
Obama's Christian Creds Vs. Abortion and Infanticide

Obama's 10 reasons for supporting infanticide
Mommy Won't Help Dems on Abortion
Abortion Leader Confirms that Democratic Platform is More Pro-Abortion than Ever
Obama More Than An Abortion Radical
Obama’s Abortion Lies (Obama cover-up on born-alive survivors bill)
Life with Obama: Abortion champion
Knighting the Catholic Vote (K of C urging Catholics to vote pro-life)
Linda Chavez: Obama’s Catholic problem
Catholic Voters and 2008
Barack Obama Supports the Murder of Newborn Infants

Obama Lied About Abortion Record
What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion
[OPEN] Supreme K of C Calls for Real "Change" on Abortion and Catholic Revolt against Obama Nation
Obama's Catholic Problem ( Linda Chavez )
Obama’s View on Abortion May Divide Catholics ( "May Divide?" )
Obama loses 26 points among Catholics
Barack Obama's Wife Michelle to Join Hillary Clinton at Pro-Abortion Dinner
OPINION: Senator Obama and the Wall of the Womb
Barack Obama's Pledge to Overturn Every Pro-Life Abortion Law One Year Old
Obama Worse than Clintons on Abortion Says National Right to Life Leader Interview-SCOTUS Critical

Roman Catholics for Obama '08
OBAMA TO CATHOLICS: NO VOUCHERS
How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?
Obama’s director of Catholic Outreach ‘dodges’ opportunity to reach Catholics
Barack Obama Slams John McCain For Opposing Abortion, Activist Judges
Catholics and Obama
COMMENTARY: Quandry for Catholics At Election Time
The Latest Refinement (Obama on Abortion)
CNN Runs Biased News Story Covering Up Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record
Jill Stanek: Obama's biggest lie about supporting infanticide

The Battle for Catholic Voters
New Report Indicates Voters Most Interested in Barack Obama’s Position on Abortion
Deal Hudson: Obama and Infanticide?
Ad asks Obama: ‘If fatherhood begins at conception, when does life begin?’
Embryonic stem-cell research immoral, unnecessary, bishops say
Catholics should not vote for Obama
Catholic Caucus: It is a sin to vote/support Obama/DNC [abortion]
More Catholics leaning towards Democrats, poll reports (really not Catholics)
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Obama's Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion....

NARAL Catholics Line Up for Obama
Editorial: Disagreeing with Doug Kmiec One More Time
State-Funded Embryo Research "Makes Taxpayers Complicit in Killing", say Bishops
McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn
Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after
Has Obama dissolved his Catholic advisory council?
Commentary: Faithful Citizenship and the Formed Conscience
Catholic League: Where's Obama's 'Catholic Advisory Council'? [Not to be found!]
Right-wing Christians beginning to lean left (Misleading headline)
Catholics Debate Obama Vote

US Bishops Urge Voters to Give Priority to Life [Ecumenical]
Corralling the Catholic vote: Political necessity or pipe dream?
DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election
EDITORIAL: Why This Catholic Dreads the Campaign
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Thoughts On ‘Roman Catholics For Obama’
How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question
Catholic Pro-Life Leader Feuds With Barack Obama's "Catholic" Backers
McCain and the Pope: McCain cannot win in November without the Catholic vote (Reagan re-visited?)
Catholics Cannot Vote for Pols Who Support Abortion, Except for Morally Grave Reasons: KY Bishops

49 posted on 10/20/2008 2:45:28 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: prolifefirst

Maybe Notre Dame needs to get a note or email from you saying that you will withold your alumni funds until they have Catholic believing professors teaching the classes!!!!


50 posted on 10/20/2008 2:51:10 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Brought to you by the “How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?” school of theology.


51 posted on 10/20/2008 2:55:49 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: NYer

Ok...time to take my blood pressure medication.


52 posted on 10/20/2008 2:57:12 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: NYer

I’m not sure which bishop has jurisdiction over this fruitcake, or over America magazine’s editor, but both should be clearly and quickly refuted. America Magazine we know is a leftist rag, but many “average” Catholics don’t know, and the Jesuit elite still have cachet among them. All the more reason huge glaring lies like this must be put down immediately, and rightly by the bishop (who of course will be excoriated for repressing free speech).

If that’s not done, I hope we’ll see a rebuttal letter fast from a prestigious and intellectually respectable priest, it would be best if another high-profile Jesuit, someone like Kenneth Baker, Robert Spitzer, or Mitch Pacwa.


53 posted on 10/20/2008 3:15:04 PM PDT by baa39 (Our Lady of Victory, pray for us!)
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To: NYer

As I was reading this drivel I thought this is probably the same argument they used in Spain. Wait until Obama promotes his LBHT agenda (it’s on his webpage). Will that be OK in addition to killing babies? What follows next will probably be taxing Church/church property to promote tax fairness.

BTW-My brother, who is an abortion advocate, gets very uncomfortable when I put abortion in terms of killing babies. I think we need to be direct.


54 posted on 10/20/2008 3:21:16 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: wideawake

Good point, and neither are “social programs,” “universal healthcare.” “welfare” and “stopping global warming” inherently good!


55 posted on 10/20/2008 3:21:38 PM PDT by baa39 (Our Lady of Victory, pray for us!)
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To: NYer

No, you can’t. Simple as that.


56 posted on 10/20/2008 3:27:01 PM PDT by trimom
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To: Northern Yankee; Bitsy
I heard a priest say last year that the greatest wrong that is coming of age is that "God thinks like I think."

Lol ... that reminds me of Mother Angelica holding her 'Word of God' and telling the audience: "The reason we read the Bible is to know how God thinks!"

As a punishment to this priest, let's sit him in a chair and make him watch that EWTN spot and then write it 100x on the chalkboard :-)

57 posted on 10/20/2008 3:43:56 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Ok...time to take my blood pressure medication. p> Lol ... time to increase the strength of mine.

I gave up watching the news a long time ago but had the tv on this evening when the national news began. NBC started off with an election board showing the vote count for Obama and McCain! Since when can Americans (not traveling out of the country) cast their votes in October!? There were already long lines in Ft Lauderdale FL and Hillary Clinton was out there encouraging people to vote now. What the h--k!! What is happening in our country?

58 posted on 10/20/2008 3:56:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: baa39
America Magazine we know is a leftist rag, but many “average” Catholics don’t know, and the Jesuit elite still have cachet among them.

It's is frustrating and very disheartening. How do we reach these A & P Catholics? The media know and court all the dissident Catholic prelates like Greeley. They showcase them as 'authorities' or 'experts' in any and all discussion forums involving the Catholic Church. The A & P Catholics buy into that and nod in agreement.

We must admit, however, that Archbishop Burke's outspokeness garnered media attention. With him now at the Vatican, it appears Archbishop Chaput is stepping lively into the same role. Pray for him and for our country.

59 posted on 10/20/2008 4:01:46 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: HarleyD
I thought this is probably the same argument they used in Spain

Yes ... no doubt it was a similar appeal. Excellent point!

BTW-My brother, who is an abortion advocate, gets very uncomfortable when I put abortion in terms of killing babies. I think we need to be direct.

I believe it was NY Cardinal Egan, responding to Pelosi, who publicly stated that the days of claiming the fetus is nothing more than a blob of cells, ended with the scientific advance of technology that allows us to see into the womb. We see babies waving at us!

Sadly, as evidenced by this self-proclaimed 'pro-life' woman, there are still those who will disregard all technoligical proof and 'spin' their words to justify their own personal agenda. Conversion of heart comes through prayer. We need to pray for your this woman and your brother.

60 posted on 10/20/2008 4:12:11 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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